TWO GOSPELS THAT CANNOT BE THE SAME

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Doug

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Doug anyone today can give to the poor, or a charity that helps feed them or take care of them so yes it applies to any of us.
That would be voluntary giving .......Jesus commanded them to sell all and you cant change the meaning to say it applies to you......if you dont sell all you are not following Jesus as you say we must
 

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It says starting at Jerusalem, not in Jerusalem only, but repentance was the main message of Jesus and race the main of Paul, you were right, the gospels, not the same. Repentance is what a true follower of Christ has to preach but it is not received well, it is hard to do and because of that, people will shame you and ignore you like they do here sometimes when I preach on this forum.
You have not addressed the command of Jesus to start at Jerusalem.....have you started your preaching in Jerusalem?
If not you are not obeying everything Jesus commands
 

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It was given to the disciples to heal the sick it is a gift of the Holy spirit and it is rare today but not unheard of.
So now you are saying some things were given to the disciples and NOT to you........Jesus didnt say that sign was for some but to all those who believe
Thats what I have been saying, not everything was commanded to us
 

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We discussed this before but once more there is no remnant today,,,,the church of God, the believing remnant, the little flock, the Israel of God was still present when Paul wrote Romans 11:5 and so when he said the present time it meant when he wrote it
Why did Paul teach the remnant of Israel was being preserved by the Gospel of Grace, which you correctly identify Paul as teaching, whereas you claim people don't enter the remnant of Israel through the Gospel of Grace?
 

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Why did Paul teach the remnant of Israel was being preserved by the Gospel of Grace, which you correctly identify Paul as teaching, whereas you claim people don't enter the remnant of Israel through the Gospel of Grace?
No idea what you mean ....sorry
 

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No idea what you mean ....sorry
Convenient.

I detect inconsistency between what I perceive the Bible teaches and what you teach :

You say : "the remnant of Israel Church" is entered by Jews and Gentiles when they hear "Peter's Gospel", which differs from "Paul's Gospel of Grace" whereby people enter "the body of Christ Church".

The Bible says : "God is preserving a remnant of the nation of Israel by the Gospel of Grace", which you identify as the Gospel Paul preaches.

How are these two things compatible?
 

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Convenient.

I detect inconsistency between what I perceive the Bible teaches and what you teach :

You say : "the remnant of Israel Church" is entered by Jews and Gentiles when they hear "Peter's Gospel", which differs from "Paul's Gospel of Grace" whereby people enter "the body of Christ Church".

The Bible says : "God is preserving a remnant of the nation of Israel by the Gospel of Grace", which you identify as the Gospel Paul preaches.

How are these two things compatible?
The Bible says : "God is preserving a remnant of the nation of Israel by the Gospel of Grace", which you identify as the Gospel Paul preaches.

What chapter and verse is this?
 

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The Bible says : "God is preserving a remnant of the nation of Israel by the Gospel of Grace", which you identify as the Gospel Paul preaches.

What chapter and verse is this?
Romans 11:1I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. 2Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying, 3Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life. 4But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal. 5Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace. 6And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.