The Holy Spirit is clear and true.@Spiritual Israelite
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1 Cor. 2:
[14] But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
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The Holy Spirit is clear and true.@Spiritual Israelite
@WPM
1 Cor. 2:
[14] But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Yes, thank you for showing why you have no discernment. It's because you get your understanding from your imagination rather than from the Holy Spirit. Having spiritual discernment means you can discern what scripture is teaching and can explain it clearly, which you obviously cannot do.@Spiritual Israelite
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1 Cor. 2:
[14] But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
@marks Why the sad face? Can you understand what Taken said in his post? If so, please explain it to me.
Premils are all about avoidance. Like how they are avoiding all the scripture references I made in the original posts. They clearly know they have nothing to refute what I said in those posts.A parable about what? A reality.
The strong man is real! The binding is real! His house is real!
Why did you avoid everything else?
Bro, they are destroying their own position by running and hiding. Long may it continue! Premil is dead here! It just needs a decent burial.Premils are all about avoidance. Like how they are avoiding all the scripture references I made in the original posts. They clearly know they have nothing to refute what I said in those posts.
Hm. I don't know that I could explain someone's post to you any different or any better than I can explain my own posts to you, based on your seeming lack of understanding of what I've been saying.@marks Why the sad face? Can you understand what Taken said in his post? If so, please explain it to me.
Yes, thank you for showing why you have no discernment. It's because you get your understanding from your imagination rather than from the Holy Spirit. Having spiritual discernment means you can discern what scripture is teaching and can explain it clearly, which you obviously cannot do.
It was incoherent nonsense. Nowhere in scripture does it teach anything that he was saying. He tries to create 17 different groups of believers despite the fact that all believers are in one body. I have no problem calling that incoherent nonsense because that is what it is.Hm. I don't know that I could explain someone's post to you any different or any better than I can explain my own posts to you, based on your seeming lack of understanding of what I've been saying.
But to just declare something "incoherant nonsense" is to put off onto someone else what you should be taking responsibility for.
"I don't understand what you've written"
or
"You've written incoherent nonsense"
Do you see the difference?
In the first example, you are telling others about you. This is what it means to "keep to your side of the fence".
In the second example, you are speaking of someone else, and that's crossing the boundary to "their side of the fence. You tell me about you, and I'll tell you about me, that's the idea.
So much of this forum is consumed with this kind of nonsense, as one tells another, "you don't get it" or "you write nonsense" or "you just don't want to know" or "you ignore the Scriptures", like that.
For good communication, and for good interpersonal relationships, I think this is an important thing to understand.
So the reason for the sad face was because instead of telling @Taken that you didn't understand the post, you declared "more incoherent nonsense from you". You could have asked them to explain it to you. You could have responded with any number of things. But this is what you chose.
And as Jesus said, out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks.
I really actually do love you! I want for you to have all good things, I want for you to have the best relationships with God and others, I want for you to fully understand the Scriptures, that you may grow into all good things.
You've asked, and I've given you the most sincere answer I know, in the hope that you will take some of this to heart, and benefit thereby.
It's too bad that the truth makes you sad. If you think he is displaying spiritual discernment with his nonsensical gibberish, then I'm sad for you.
Is that what I said? Anything like it? No. Nothing like it.It's too bad that the truth makes you sad. If you think he is displaying spiritual discernment with his nonsensical gibberish, then I'm sad for you.
@marks Yes, you've added all you can, which is pretty much nothing. Just like every other Premill who has posted in this thread.Is that what I said? Anything like it? No. Nothing like it.
So, I think I've added here all I can. You don't need to tag me in the future. This is sad.
Much love!
Not so.
You seem to be of the Opinion ALL Scripture Applies the SAME to Every Individual…
It Does Not.
There Will be “believers ON Earth During The Trib.
There Will be Individuals “Saved” During the Trib.
These Are Taught… “They Shall Be Saved”.
Others, called… IN Christ… “ARE Saved”
Different Scriptures Applies to such Individuals.
Matt 10:
[22b]… but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
^^ Does Not Apply to me.
^^ Does Not Apply to those “IN Christ”
1 Cor 1:
[18b] but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
^^ Does Apply to those “In Christ”.
^^ Does Apply to me.
You present Scriptures, YOU have Determined Apply TO You…
And Having a breakdown …
because OTHERS, do Not Have your Same Standing…
so…You do not want to BE Included “IN” the Escape Prepared FOR “US” Already…
Bodily Crucified..
Soul Saved…
Spirit Quickened…
Be Patient … God IS full of Grace, to Give men their Desires According to their Beliefs.
What are you on?
Personally, I understand what's being said, I don't see the problem.More incoherent nonsense from you. It's all you have.
Different Scriptures sometimes have application only to certain people. A glaring example is God's command to Noah to build an ark. We all realize this does not apply to us.Not so.
You seem to be of the Opinion ALL Scripture Applies the SAME to Every Individual…
It Does Not.
People will be saved during the tribulation, so there will be believer on the earth at that time.There Will be “believers ON Earth During The Trib.
There Will be Individuals “Saved” During the Trib.
There are those who are saved now, who are "in Christ", and others who will be saved then.These Are Taught… “They Shall Be Saved”.
Others, called… IN Christ… “ARE Saved”
Application of this Scripture is towards those who are not "saved", rather, the "shall be saved". Those who are In Christ are saved now.Different Scriptures Applies to such Individuals.
Matt 10:
[22b]… but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
^^ Does Not Apply to me.
^^ Does Not Apply to those “IN Christ”
which are saved . . . this is us now.1 Cor 1:
[18b] but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
^^ Does Apply to those “In Christ”.
^^ Does Apply to me.
You've presented Scriptures that rightly apply to others as though they apply to you, but you don't righty fit into them.You present Scriptures, YOU have Determined Apply TO You…
And Having a breakdown …
because OTHERS, do Not Have your Same Standing…
One of those "You" statements that I speak against. It's not for others to tell you what you want. Its for you to do that.so…You do not want to BE Included “IN” the Escape Prepared FOR “US” Already…
Benediction.Bodily Crucified..
Soul Saved…
Spirit Quickened…
Be Patient … God IS full of Grace, to Give men their Desires According to their Beliefs.