USA riots

[Candidus]

If anyone questions the morality of these "protests", keep in mind that these "peaceful" thugs are now burning Churches!

When your peaceful protest of righteous indignation emboldens anarchists to burn Churches.... you become part of the problem. You have lost the narrative.

 

[Stranger]

I agree with the essence of what you are saying; this thing has every potential of escalating. The dam has broken and the Racist Anarchists are using this to riot, commit arson, and theft. Cities around the Country are uniting the anarchists to come out and commit crimes. Once someone stands their ground and says, "You're not going to burn down my house or business!" And they justly defend their property with whatever they can... then the potential is that a reasonable response will break the second dam.

I live in a State where guns, and people carrying guns is common. If you threaten somebodies life, property or business... you take your life into your own hands. So far, the protests have been reasonable and peaceful... even though they are Racist!

The tipping point is near.... some of these Racist Criminal Thugs will find out the meaning of "Play stupid games; win stupid prizes"!

Yes, and, the liberal Media shows these protest/riots live time. They are in fact fueling the fire for these. I don't hear the NAACP standing up against these. Perhaps I missed it. I don't hear the SPLC condemning these riots and destruction as hate crimes, which they surely are. It's only hate if the black is affected.

Just think, if Trump loses the next election, these are the people who will be in power.

Stranger

 

[Brakelite]

So you see the religious clout of the Catholic Church on the government as a benevolent force? How about the religious governments of some Muslim countries?

I see the union of church and state within the papal paradigm as an enemy to freedom of all people.

 

[Enoch111]

Eventually one of these Racist Mobs will attempt to burn, loot, or damage a White business, and will find that justice is there to meet them!

This is NOT about racism. This is about planned and organized anarchy to destroy America. At the very least George Soros may be behind this. But there may be other billionaires who have not been exposed.

"In cities across the U.S. where demonstrations over the death of George Floyd in police custody are taking place, mysterious pallets of bricks are reportedly showing up in parking lots and on street corners, even in areas where there is no constructions take place. Social media users are asking where they came from and who paid for them."

Bricks do not come cheap, and pallet-loads of bricks can be seen. It has been known for quite some time that Soros has a very evil agenda and is using his billions to undermine democracy worldwide and promote Fascism and Communism. He is an ex-Nazi, a Hungarian Jew who enjoyed seeing Jews exterminated. Yet Donald Trump has failed to bring him to justice.

These riots are also being supported and fueled by Democrats:
“@JoeBiden’s staff is donating to a fund that pays bail for people rioting in Minneapolis. This is CONDONING & FINANCIALLY SUPPORTING mayhem that’s destroying businesses & ruining people’s life work. The city is burning & Biden staff are funding it,” Tim Murtaugh, communications director for the Trump campaign, wrote in a Twitter post.
Biden Campaign Staff Donate to Group Bailing Out Minn. Rioters

If you release a paid rioter on bail, what do you think he is going to turn around and do all over again? Should not bail be denied to these people who are committing murder and mayhem?

 

[Candidus]

This is NOT about racism. This is about planned and organized anarchy to destroy America. At the very least George Soros may be behind this. But there may be other billionaires who have not been exposed.

"In cities across the U.S. where demonstrations over the death of George Floyd in police custody are taking place, mysterious pallets of bricks are reportedly showing up in parking lots and on street corners, even in areas where there is no constructions take place. Social media users are asking where they came from and who paid for them."

Bricks do not come cheap, and pallet-loads of bricks can be seen. It has been known for quite some time that Soros has a very evil agenda and is using his billions to undermine democracy worldwide and promote Fascism and Communism. He is an ex-Nazi, a Hungarian Jew who enjoyed seeing Jews exterminated. Yet Donald Trump has failed to bring him to justice.

Racism is the motive used to justify it, BY RACISTS, and is intrinsically connected to the riots. It is the "Not letting a crisis go to waste" policy of the Left.

 

[Nancy]

Hi Nancy,
I don’t know I always think back to the first chapter of job - Satan inflicted and used situations, but God allowed it to happen for a purpose. When this happened in London, it was the family of a murdered man that brought about a change - a turn around. In Northern Ireland, it was the father of a murdered daughter who brought about change - forgiveness had a rippling effect - they could have reacted with anger and outrage, but they chose a different path, they chose a Godly one. Reactions - it will feed the flames, or douse them out.......Many good videos are hitting you tube, the press are focusing on the riots, but individuals are seeking out the good. My son came and showed me so many encouraging videos from the USA last night - many involving good Officers - maybe they will bring about a change by openly choosing the right side.
The ripples take time .......I am just so sorry that the rioters lose sight of who they are actually hurting, not the police, but their own communities. Praying for the situation Nancy xxxx
Rita

Thank you Rita,
Now they have come out with a manifesto in Buffalo, they are now threatening to kill white families, children, elder, women! Even their own families are trying to make them stop but, they are out of control. I know there are many who are trying to bring about peace, and I know several officers in my city who are awesome...it just took one bad apple to start the whole country into horrible riots. People are crazy afraid of this COVID and now this?
Oh Lord, if this is a warning, please change hearts and minds, thank you Jesus! Amen.

xo

 

[Renniks]

Yes, that was the same in London - I think you get the genuine people who are seeking to be heard, and then you get those who simply take advantage of what is going on. However you still need to address the initial incident that led to the riots, if that never happened, then the door of opportunity for the anarchist wouldn’t have arisen at this time.
You know what I find kind of weird is the awareness that quite recently there were ugly protests about the lockdowns, about freedom being taken away. People were angry, and showing it with their rifles and in many cases being intimidating to those who didn’t agree. That was okay by many, they had a right to riot , many claimed. Yet, now the protests around the USA are viewed in a different way because of the underlying issues.

Rita

The thing is, injustice happens every day and there's evil people of every race. So, why is this one singled out? It probably really had nothing to do with either man's race. It just seems like an excuse for the media to rile people up. And with instant Access to every rumor, every opinion, and just coming out of lockdown, making people mad is easy. I fear we will soon be even more manipulated as a nation as technology allows for fake videos showing anyone doing anything. I don't like what I see happening in the nation I love. We are better than this.

 

[Enoch111]

Racism is the motive used to justify it, BY RACISTS, and is intrinsically connected to the riots.

Racism is the excuse being used to destroy America. I would not be surprised that while the COVID conspiracy was being hatched on one side, the Anarchist conspiracy was being hatched on the other side. And yet, no one seems to be connecting the dots. Both conspiracies were designed to bring America to its knees, and get the Democrats into power by foul means only. They plan to steal the next election, and there is a very good possibility that Trump will lose.

The Attorney General of America should have been able to connect all the dots LONG AGO, and gone before the public with some facts and figures, as well as a strategy to deal with anarchy and rioting. The president should have issued an Executive Order back in 2017 outlawing Antifa, Black Lives Matter, and all such Extreme Leftist groups as well as the Muslim Brotherhood, CAIR, etc. as DOMESTIC TERRORISTS.

And terrorism is not something that the police should be dealing with. The National Guard should have been on constant alert. It is obvious that there was no strategy in place, and everything is happening on an ad hoc basis. In spite of Ferguson and all similar incidents. And now untold millions are going up in smoke, properties are being destroyed, people are being killed or seriously injured, businessmen are losing their business, and *Rome* is burning.

 

[Taken]

There is a definite black/white issue;

And WHY?

When a white cop feels it's appropriate to put his knee on the neck of a handcuffed black man who's down on the ground, you can see something's desperately wrong.

If you're black and suspected of trying to pass a bad $20 bill, no need to wait for more evidence -- we'll slam you to the ground and kill you. Who needs more evidence? You're black -- that's enough evidence.

But if you're white -- and part of the power structure elite --- you get special treatment.

WHY ?
Because the Media and people like you perpetuate Racial Divide.

A man, (Race Irrelevavt) used a "suspected" (counterfeit) $20 bill to purchase cigarettes.
The man (Race irrelevant) had the cigarettes....and was Sitting in A Vehicle.

The man (race Irrelevant) was Alarmed by being accused of having "used" a Counterfeit $20 ?? and WHAT??? Returned to the store? Called the Police to investigate the claimed $20 counterfeit bill? Was an active participant in establishing WHERE he got the $20 (supposed) counterfeit bill? Eh No.

^^ THAT is reasonable to believe what ANY (race Irrelevant) Person would have done.

So...A man sits IN A Vehicle. Police are called by the store employee. Police arrive. Police briefly Question the man....(about WHAT?)...the man sitting in A Vehicle? Or About the $20 bill, for which the police were Called?)

And the police (race Irrelevant) asked the man to step out of the Vehicle he was sitting in.....Vidieo footage Shows the man's (refusal to obey the Officer)...Officers pulled the man Out of the Vehicle and Cuffed him and walked the man upon the sidewalk and sat him down with the man's back to a building.

After a few minutes Police Officers chose to take the man to a Police Station for Questioning regarding the $20 bill.

Police Officers then walked the man to a Police Vehicle and Told the man to get into the Vehicle. The man Resisted...several Officers tried to get the man into the Police Vehicle...the man continued RESISTING.....(while Saying)...he didn't want to enter the police Vehicle....BECAUSE..."he (the man) was Claustrophic"....

The man Was Taken Out of a Vehicle...then claims he doesn't want to get into a Vehicle...Because he is Claustrophic!!!

Race has Nothing to Do With What Occurred...Except when people such as yourself Bring RACE into the Mix....and without Hesitation have Used the "Old worn out Racial Excuse" of the "poor Black person" and "white racist" person.

There was Not one iota of evidence of Anyone involved in that event was Racist.

What WAS Revealed was a Question about A $20 bill and An "uncooperative" man (race Irrelevant).

It is Not a Secret...police Officers are Lawfully Authorized to Detain, and Arrest, and Question persons of Interest in ANY accusation or case.

It is Not a Secret, People (race Irrelevant) who are Uncooperative with Police Officers, may be forcefully restrained.

It's Unfortunate...when individuals (race Irrelevant) Choose to be Uncooperative with Authorities...and the individual becomes physically hurt, maimed or dead.

And it becomes utterly ridiculous when FOOLISH Citizens take to the streets Making Themselves Criminals, destroying property ...
While Demanding JUSTICE.

 

[RainAndIceCream]

If anyone questions the morality of these "protests", keep in mind that these "peaceful" thugs are now burning Churches!

When your peaceful protest of righteous indignation emboldens anarchists to burn Churches.... you become part of the problem. You have lost the narrative.

God have mercy upon all who have been murdered during these terrorist attacks. God's protection surround those in the sight of the terrorists who are still continuing their attacks against America. God have mercy upon George Floyd. And God protect our President and VP, and our nation from the enemy that is dead set on destroying this Christian nation. Amen.

There's a difference between peacefully protesting the murder of a citizen by gathered complicit police, and attacking, killing, and burning down businesses, desecrating historic monuments, burning houses, and encroaching on the President's residence , surrounding it with car bombs, with the intent to kill him and his family. Therein causing President Trump and his family and VP Pence and his family to seek shelter in the bunkers there.

Those terrorists to whom I refer are not protesting the murder of Mr.Floyd. His race is irrelevant. This is not a race thing. This is a police brutality, cold-blooded murder thing. The perpetrators of the terrorism I speak of are members of ANTIFA, long over due but recently added to the list of terrorist organizations, and another group that should soon be joining ANTIFA on that list, BLM. Both are funded by the Anti-American billionaire who also started and funded "Occupy Wall Street"; George Soros. A staunch radical Leftist who hates Trump, owns a huge percentage of the stock of the Wall Street Journal, and conspires with Hillary R. Clinton, to destroy America from the inside.

There are two different factions here. One are the peaceful protesters seeking justice for Mr.Floyd. All officers involved in his murder should be under arrest. Including that one that walked up after Mr.Floyd was unconscious and checked his pulse, did not tell the murderer who was pressing still with his knee on Mr.Floyd's neck , to stop! And then walked away.
And including the officer that stood in front of the murder as it was happening, thinking his girth would block onlookers who were filming the murder, screaming for the officers to stop. Those onlookers did nothing to stop it.

Those people that are acting violent now did not know Mr.George Floyd. They're Anarchists! However, the murderer of Mr.Floyd did know him. They worked together before as security at a night club. Makes one wonder if Mr.Floyd was murdered by Derek Chauvin over that period of 8 minutes and 46 seconds, due to something personal between them.
We may never know. However, every single officer present at this murder scene should be on trial for murder. If we keep firing murderers who happen to wear a badge, rather than hold them up to the justice that is supposed to be fair and impartial for all, this type of terrorism by police will not stop.

 

[APAK]

Now I've seen it all...in New Zealand, yes in Auckland..along Queen Street 1000s of protesters showing their solidarity with a dead black man called George as they chant 'Black lives matter,' In Christchurch and Wellington, 100s in the rain chant the same things and they don't even know this black man, George. I believe most have never met a Black man either, except on the Tellie. Well I guess since my time there, many migrants have come over, and then many live with black folks. If this was not such a sobering moment that began in MN this would be a hit on the Monty Python show today.

These protests are not really about an overbearing Police Force, who arm themselves. That is the primary excuse to launch all kinds of socialistic agendi the types that communists live for.

What is it!? Have all the liberals of the world, the whiners and complainers, the haters of folks that are law-abiding and peaceful, the tree huggers, to never-deer hunters, even the spirits of the Anti-Christ, all reared their ugly heads at once! This is not the New Zealand I grew up in...by a long shot.

I think these pathetic people are very misguided and only come out in numbers because they are really 'weak' as individuals. If they had to stand up alone on principles they believed in, they would wimper out in a second.

Yes, in NZ I was called a Pakeha (white 'European' person) by a very few at school, and we all did have a few problems and scuffles, Pakehas versus indigenous Maoris if you will. MANY were my friends in especially sports - football and rugby. What happened to common sense, having a thick skin, showing empathy, being peaceful, make-ups as friends should, and to go along to get along....we were all mates...I don't know anymore about this new divide and division, in ANY Nation today!

Look at this clip in Auckland...

SICK & TIRED on Twitter

And this is a shot of it..it is disgusting to me...

I guess they are encouraged and strengthened by having a left-leaning Prime Minister sitting in Parliament in Wellington as she walks and speaks with a pompous swagger wearing an artificial mask of cool and proper composure. Yet inside she is a very weak leader. Yes, and I have earned the right to criticize her, I lived there before she was born....she is younger that my youngest boy...Go National!!

 

[Enoch111]

Racism is the motive used to justify it, BY RACISTS, and is intrinsically connected to the riots. It is the "Not letting a crisis go to waste" policy of the Left.

"Following President Trump’s promise to classify ANTIFA as a terrorist organisation, hyperventilating leftists, virtue signalling celebrities and fake media mouthpieces rushed to DEFEND the group responsible for the wanton violence and destruction, because orange man is bad."
After Trump Vows To Classify It As Terrorist Group, Leftists Defend ANTIFA

This shows that the Democrats and Leftists want Antifa and all anarchist groups in America to go on destroying America. This is much bigger than one man being killed by a stupid and evil police officer.

The official Twitter account of the Fairfax County Democratic Committee in Virginia retweeted a claim on Saturday that “Riots are an integral part of this country’s march towards progress,” as the country was gripped by violence.

RT @bharatkrishnan9: When President Obama included the Stonewall Riots in his 2nd inaugural, he didn’t make that decision lightly. Riots are an integral part of this country’s march towards progress.

— Fairfax Democrats (@FairfaxDems) May 30, 2020

This was later deleted but survives as a screenshot.
Fairfax County Democrats Call Riots 'Part of This Country's March Towards Progress'; UPDATE: Tweet Deleted

 

[Candidus]

Now I've seen it all...in New Zealand, yes in Auckland..along Queen Street 1000s of protesters showing their solidarity with a dead black man called George as they chant 'Black lives matter,' In Christchurch and Wellington, 100s in the rain chant the same things and they don't even know this black man, George. I believe most have never met a Black man either, except on the Tellie. Well I guess since my time there, many migrants have come over, and then many live with black folks. If this was not such a sobering moment that began in MN this would be a hit on the Monty Python show today.

These protests are not really about an overbearing Police Force, who arm themselves. That is the primary excuse to launch all kinds of socialistic agendi the types that communists live for.

What is it!? Have all the liberals of the world, the whiners and complainers, the haters of folks that are law-abiding and peaceful, the tree huggers, to never-deer hunters, even the spirits of the Anti-Christ, all reared their ugly heads at once! This is not the New Zealand I grew up in...by a long shot.

I think these pathetic people are very misguided and only come out in numbers because they are really 'weak' as individuals. If they had to stand up alone on principles they believed in, they would wimper out in a second.

Yes, in NZ I was called a Pakeha (white 'European' person) by a very few at school, and we all did have a few problems and scuffles, Pakehas versus indigenous Maoris if you will. MANY were my friends in especially sports - football and rugby. What happened to common sense, having a thick skin, showing empathy, being peaceful, make-ups as friends should, and to go along to get along....we were all mates...I don't know anymore about this new divide and division, in ANY Nation today!

Look at this clip in Auckland...

SICK & TIRED on Twitter

And this is a shot of it..it is disgusting to me...

I guess they are encouraged and strengthened by having a left-leaning Prime Minister sitting in Parliament in Wellington as she walks and speaks with a pompous swagger wearing an artificial mask of cool and proper composure. Yet inside she is a very weak leader. Yes, and I have earned the right to criticize her, I lived there before she was born.....Go National!!

The sign says, "END ARMED POLICE PATROLS"...

Protesters with a solution in search of an answer! What does that have to do with what happened?

 

[Taken]

[QUOTE="RainAndIceCream, post: 760049, member: 8779"...
All officers involved in his murder should be under arrest. [/QUOTE]

A man was Killed.
...(to Kill, is to deprive of Life)
How did you determine it Was Murder?
...(Murder, is premeditated, a forethought to Kill, with malice / ie, Intent to kill.)

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

The thing is, injustice happens every day and there's evil people of every race. So, why is this one singled out? It probably really had nothing to do with either man's race. It just seems like an excuse for the media to rile people up. And with instant Access to every rumor, every opinion, and just coming out of lockdown, making people mad is easy. I fear we will soon be even more manipulated as a nation as technology allows for fake videos showing anyone doing anything. I don't like what I see happening in the nation I love. We are better than this.

It's Opportunity FOR yet MORE "unconstitutional" Laws.

 

[RainAndIceCream]

[QUOTE="RainAndIceCream, post: 760049, member: 8779"...
All officers involved in his murder should be under arrest.

A man was Killed.
...(to Kill, is to deprive of Life)
How did you determine it Was Murder?
...(Murder, is premeditated, a forethought to Kill, with malice / ie, Intent to kill.)

Glory to God,
Taken[/QUOTE] Did you watch the video? The offending officer is under arrest for third degree murder of Mr.Floyd.
Minnesota law definition , 3rd degree murder:
(a) Whoever, without intent to effect the death of any person, causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life, is guilty of murder in the third degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 25 years.
Sec. 609.195 MN Statutes

 

[Taken]

If anyone questions the morality of these "protests", keep in mind that these "peaceful" thugs are now burning Churches!

When your peaceful protest of righteous indignation emboldens anarchists to burn Churches.... you become part of the problem. You have lost the narrative.

Peaceful "protests" are initiated BY obtaining a "Protest Permit"...
People with an Animal mentality take to the Streets like ravenous Wolves, seeking and premeditating attacks and property destruction.
Idiots calling for Justice While "They" violate the Law...Ironic!

 

[Taken]

A man was Killed.
...(to Kill, is to deprive of Life)
How did you determine it Was Murder?
...(Murder, is premeditated, a forethought to Kill, with malice / ie, Intent to kill.)

Glory to God,
Taken

Did you watch the video? The offending officer is under arrest for third degree murder of Mr.Floyd.
Minnesota law definition , 3rd degree murder:
(a) Whoever, without intent to effect the death of any person, causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life, is guilty of murder in the third degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 25 years.
Sec. 609.195 MN Statutes[/QUOTE]

So the officer was Accused and Charged...
So What?

When did being Accused or Charged come to mean "guilty"?

Don't you think there are Investigations, Hearings, Court proceedings... "Before" A Rendering of Guilt is Judged?

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[pompadour]

A society that makes war with their Police. Had better make peace with their criminals. " Paul Harvey "

 

[Scoot]

Yet, if we take this to its extreme while this just escalates, anyone who does not respond quickly will be seen as a Nero who played his fiddle as Rome burned!

Should we just sit back and bask in our spiritual superiority because we do nothing as the Country burns? If something does not happen soon, people will realize that their lives and property are not going to be protected by the Police or Government, and will feel forced to protect it themselves. Eventually one of these Racist Mobs will attempt to burn, loot, or damage a White business, and will find that justice is there to meet them!

I'm sorry for the lack of clear communication - I'm not sure how you got that from my posts, but to clarify - I never said that things shouldn't be responded to quickly on the ground. I'm talking about people who are observing this (from a distance / sidelines) - rushing to judgement - regarding who is behind this, or what really happened, or is really going on.

The response on the ground is another matter entirely. I have no say in how they're responded to, and honestly it's way outside of my scope of experience - my opinions on those matters would be very ignorant in the least.

On the other hand - I have plenty of first hand observation in how people are concluding matters and coming to judgement from the sidelines - and that was the perspective I'm coming from. (And then reflecting back on myself - and how quickly I am to come to conclusions on people in the same way).

I mentioned that it's difficult to distinguish between the reactions of many Christians and non-Christians through this in the way that many are on the sidelines passing judgement and concluding what has happened, and who or what is behind the riots, so as for spiritual superiority - my point was actually the opposite - we appear (generally speaking) to be lacking it.

Again - to clarify - my comments aren't regarding the initial police action, or the rioters, or the current police action now. My comments are about the observers - people who are on the sideline - and the way as a society we have been conditioned to be quick to conclude a matter based on the first things we see.

Another scripture that has come to mind through all of this is Proverbs 18:17 - "The first one to plead his cause seems right, Until his neighbor comes and examines him". Many people seem to only interested in hearing one narrative, and pick their favorite news outlet that is biased that way to get their reports from. I know I have my biases as well.

To me, this is a bit of a reminder that I need to be examining and scrutinizing what I believe more than what I don't believe - to make sure that I'm not being deceived, or that I don't have a nature of rushing to judgement. I know it's my nature to be quick to speak, slow to listen. This reminds me that I need to work on this and be the opposite.