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Then why didn't she say Of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil if there were two trees in the midst of the garden?
Why did she just refer to it as " the tree in the midst" of the garden?
If there were two, why didn't the serpent ask " which tree of the two?
Yes, Cain and Abel were twins, "for again she bore Abel" as in the same pregnancy. What is the seed of Satan for angels do not have genitilia for reproductive purposes? If the Seed of God is Jesus...The Word.... then wouldn't the seed of Satan be those who feed upon his word, producing his fruit, his offspring?ENOCH2010 said:It wasn't a literal tree,it was being willing to bare the seed of Satan. Cain and Abel were twins,Cain was the seed of Satan and Abel was the seed of Adam.
That is correct.. God told Adam, for Eve was still in Adam when Adam received God's Word concerning the tree. Eve did not receive her knowledge from God, she received it second hand as you said. That is why she was mistaken as to which tree not to eat of. The same thing happens to us when we leave it up to someone else to tell us what the Word says instead of God Himself.Angelina said:I am assuming that Adam told her that... :huh: since the command was given to him first Gen 2:17-18
because she was already eating from the tree of life. The only tree that was forbidden was the other one...
Where I am going is, did Eve purposefully eat from the forbidden tree to be like god as we have been taught or was she decieved because she was misinformed and Satan just took advantage?
Satan has been trying to gain access back to God ever since the rebellion he started,his attempt to cross his seed with the woman's seed was an attempt for his sons to gain access to God. As far as Angels not being able to reproduce,how do you explain the scripture about the sons of God mating with the daughters of man and bringing forth giants.afaithfulone4u said:Yes, Cain and Abel were twins, "for again she bore Abel" as in the same pregnancy. What is the seed of Satan for angels do not have genitilia for reproductive purposes? If the Seed of God is Jesus...The Word.... then wouldn't the seed of Satan be those who feed upon his word, producing his fruit, his offspring?
Yet it was the Tree of life, Jesus the Word of life that was in the midst of the garden.
Yes she did.Where I am going is, did Eve purposefully eat from the forbidden tree to be like god as we have been taught or was she decieved because she was misinformed and Satan just took advantage?
The sons of God did not have literal children they have spiritual children only. What makes us a child of God, is it our flesh? or is it by receiving His Word and Spirit?ENOCH2010 said:Satan has been trying to gain access back to God ever since the rebellion he started,his attempt to cross his seed with the woman's seed was an attempt for his sons to gain access to God. As far as Angels not being able to reproduce,how do you explain the scripture about the sons of God mating with the daughters of man and bringing forth giants.
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.I am assuming that Adam told her that... :huh: since the command was given to him first Gen 2:17-18
because she was already eating from the tree of life. The only tree that was forbidden was the other one...
God never marries people, He marries LANDS and the people are called the children.
Was God not married to the land of ISRAEL?
Yes God is good and just... and Adam was created in the image of God being of God's attributes. But did you know that man became JUST LIKE GOD knowing good and evil once they partook of the fruit of the forbidden tree which was Satan's words to produce Cain and Able the evil and good twins of the seed of Satan?Retrobyter said:Shalom to the disbelievers.
Look, everyone, they were indeed LITERAL trees with LITERAL fruit!
But, if one is careful to read the account accurately, he or she will discover that the text never says that Adam or Chavah (Eve) knew where the Tree of Life was! They were only told not to eat from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, and they were told that THIS tree was in the middle of the Gan (Garden). And, the two trees are certainly NOT the same tree!
They were not told to eat any particular fruit; they were ordered to AVOID the one fruit! And, frankly, it doesn't matter WHICH tree that was! The "magic" was not in the tree; it was in the obedience or disobedience to GOD who gave the order! The same is true for the Tree of Life. Any medicinal value the tree has is found in the God who made the tree, not in the tree itself!
It was a contest of sorts. They could eat ANY of the other fruit of the trees in the garden, just not that one! The question was this: Could they eventually eat of the Tree of Life (not knowing where it was or what it looked like) before they succumbed to temptation and ate from the ONE tree they were to avoid?! And, we ALL know the answer to THAT question.
And, no, neither Adam nor Chavah ate from the Tree of Life. We are told this in a sentence that YHWH did not finish in Gen. 3:22:
Genesis 3:22-24
22 And the Lord God said, "Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:..."
23 Therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
KJV
They had not yet eaten of the Tree of Life, and they were prevented from doing so. For them to eat of the Tree of Life after failing the contest would have been CHEATING!
Also, the NAMING of these trees is indicative of the results of this contest. Had they continued to eat from all the trees, finally happening upon the Tree of Life, they would have won and lived forever; again, not because of the tree or the fruit but because of God's power!
And, it is IRONIC to understand the meaning of the name of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. Before they took of the fruit and ate it, they were good, just like God was good! And, they had no understanding of what evil was; Chavah accepted the words of the Serpent with complete innocence and gullibility because she had never known what evil looked like! Chavah was deceived. Adam, however, DECIDED to partake of the fruit and share the fate of his wife! HE did so WILLINGLY! Therefore, he received the greater condemnation. Also, AFTER they ate of the fruit, they THEN understood the difference between Good and Evil: God was Good, and THEY were now Evil! See the irony? THAT'S why it was so named! There's no magic in the fruit. Before, they only had light and light; afterward, they had light and darkness - a contrast! That's how they gained the Knowledge of Good and Evil.
dragonfly said:I really don't agree with this, despite that God gave the names of two women to two groups of His people - the ten tribes and the two.
The 'children of Israel' were Jacob's descendants, and they were in Egypt before the first Passover. These had literally never lived in the land which had been given to Abraham. Then they left Egypt with Moses, and eventually entered the given land by crossing over Jordan.
Still, at that time, the land was not called 'Israel'. In fact, the land where Jerusalem is, stopped being called Israel, because it was Judah.
There is another difficulty with equating the people with the land, which you will find if you read Deuteronomy, the shorter version of the law. You will see that as soon as they left Egypt, God instructed that the non-Israelites among them could be circumcised, so that they could participate in Passover, and receive the same blessings as natural-born Israelites. This, and that an Israelite man could marry a non-Israelite woman has continued down through the centuries, so that 'children of Israel', even more than at the first Passover, includes great ethnic diversity.
It should be noted that it was the faith to abide by the law which saved those who had joined themselves to the Old Covenant - whether they were natural born or 'strangers'. This is what Paul is talking about all through Romans, and Galatians (in respect to the law that was) to show how it is also by faith that those who join themselves to the New Covenant are saved. Romans 4:16, Hebrews 9:15, Galatians 3:14, 29, Romans 9:8.
The physical is a way of understanding the spiritual. It's the spiritual allegiance which God is after.
So, are you talking about the "Serpent Seed" doctrine of Arnold Murray, here?ENOCH2010 said:It wasn't a literal tree,it was being willing to bare the seed of Satan. Cain and Abel were twins,Cain was the seed of Satan and Abel was the seed of Adam.