We Follow the King. You Follow a Corpse.

[The Gospel of Christ]

WARNING: The following may cause Dispensationalists to short-circuit and start quoting Jeremiah out of context.
Jeremiah 31:31, Jeremiah 33:17, Jeremiah 33:25–26, Jeremiah 30:3, Jeremiah 32:37, Jeremiah 23:5–6, Jeremiah 16:14–15, Jeremiah 46:27–28 and of course Jeremiah 31:35–36.


It’s really not that complicated.
The real Jews follow Christ and the New Covenant.

Why?
Because Jesus is the King of the Jews.

And what do the King’s followers call themselves?
Christians — because, you know..
They follow Christ.
The King.
Of the Jews.

So if you reject the King of the Jews…
Then no, you’re not a “true Jew.”
You’re literally rejecting the one Person who defines that identity.

It’s not a mystery. It’s not controversial.
It’s just… basic logic.

You don’t get to reject the Messiah and then demand all the promises He fulfilled.
You don’t get to throw out the Son and still pretend you’re the heir.

That’s not covenant.
That’s delusion.

Anyone who rejects the King is not a part of His Kingdom.
That’s not opinion — that’s the Gospel.

“But as for the others, they were broken off because of unbelief…” — Romans 11:20

“Only in Christ is it taken away.” — 2 Corinthians 3:14

“He takes away the first to establish the second.” — Hebrews 10:9

If Jesus is the fulfillment of the Law and the Prophets...
“For all the promises of God find their Yes in Him.” — 2 Corinthians 1:20

And if He is the promised Messiah of Israel...
“Philip found Nathanael and said, ‘We have found Him of whom Moses in the Law and also the prophets wrote — Jesus of Nazareth.’” — John 1:45

Then rejecting Him is rejecting everything Israel was ever meant to become.
You may as well tear the Bible in half, toss the New Testament in the fire,
and pretend the Cross never happened.

So what does Scripture say about those who reject the Son? You know, who’s the King of the Jews?

“Everyone who denies the Son does not have the Father either.” — 1 John 2:23

That means:
You don’t know God.
You’re not chosen.
You’re not in covenant.
You’re not spiritual Israel.
You’re not a “true Jew.”
You’re cut off.

“They were broken off for their unbelief.” — Romans 11:20 (again)

Call yourself whatever you want.
Carry a Torah like a stage prop.
But if you reject the One it all pointed to —the King of the Jews —
Then you’re a counterfeit.
And again, a ‘false Jew’.

“They claim to be Jews but are not, and are a synagogue of Satan.” — Revelation 2:9

“I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you.” — Revelation 3:9

And the Satanic book you now follow?
The Talmud — your highest “book of laws,” compiled centuries after Christ — is not the Word of God.
It’s a post-Christ, anti-Christ manifesto that mocks Jesus, blasphemes His name, denies His divinity, and rewrites the covenant He fulfilled..

It doesn’t lead to Moses.
It leads to Hell.

So Let’s Say It Plain:
The Old Covenant is over.
The blood-soaked altars? Over.
The Levitical priesthood is over.
The temple itself is over.
The Law as a system of righteousness?
Done.

And what replaced it?

Christ.
The New Covenant.
The Church.

That’s why we’re not still out here killing chickens and setting goats loose in the woods.
We’re the New Covenant Jews — The ones who actually follow the King of the Jews.
We don’t follow a dead religion that rejected the King 2,000 years ago — We follow the risen King of the Jews.

“You are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation...” — 1 Peter 2:9

“If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.” — Galatians 3:29

Not one verse in the New Testament says the unbelieving descendants of Jacob remain God’s people after rejecting the Son.
Not one verse says Christ came to build a dual-track covenant — one for Jews, one for Gentiles.

That’s Scofield’s demonic gospel.
Not Jesus’.

So Yes — Say It Louder:

The Church is Israel. (And no, you can’t find it on a map — it’s not a place. It’s a people in Christ.)
The New Covenant replaced the Old.
Christ fulfilled and replaced the Law.
And the Body of Christ is now — and forever — the true people of God.

And what do Zionists and Dispenasationilists call that?

“Replacement Theology.”
As if that’s supposed to be an insult.

But here’s the truth:
“Replacement Theology” is just a smear for what the New Testament actually teaches.
It’s not heresy — it’s the Gospel.
It’s New Covenant Christianity.

We’re the New Covenant Jews — the ones who follow Christ, the King of the Jews.

They can shout.
They can slander.
They can twist verses and footnote Scofield until the pre-trib rapture Jesus never promised and no apostle ever preached never happens.

But unless they’re ready to rip out
the Gospels, Acts, Romans, Galatians, Ephesians, Hebrews, Peter, and Revelation —
They’ve already lost the argument.

All that’s left is theological wreckage and the desperate spin of those too proud to repent.

It isn’t truth — it’s delusion wrapped in footnotes and propped up by prophecy charts.
With the Scofield Study Bible's lies bleeding out on the floor… while its disciples argue over which limb is still attached.

“You nullify the Word of God for the sake of your tradition.” — Matthew 15:6

“If you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me.” — John 5:46


Doctrinal Integrity Check

Christ is the fulfillment of the Law and the Prophets
→ Romans 10:4, Hebrews 8:6–13, Matthew 5:17

There is no salvation or covenant outside of Christ
→ John 14:6, Acts 4:12, 1 John 2:23

The Church is the true Israel
→ Galatians 3:29, Romans 9:6–8, Philippians 3:3

The Old Covenant is obsolete
→ Hebrews 8:13, Hebrews 10:9, 2 Corinthians 3

Christ is the King of the Jews
→ Matthew 27:11, John 18:37

The Talmud denies Christ
→ Historically and doctrinally accurate

Scofieldism is a false gospel
→ Galatians 1:6–9 applies directly

 

[Jay Ross]

Could I suggest that there is no "NEW" covenant. The "New covenant" protagonists, by their claims, are only trying to distance themselves from the nation of Israel with their New Covenant Theology.

Jesus Himself suggested that the Salvation Covenant was still the same covenant that has been in existence since the time of Adam. However, we know that the process, of how salvation is gained now, changed on the cross, as Daniel told us in Daniel 9:24b that it would.

However, I would suggest that the Gospels all consistently tell us that the Covenants and the Law have all been made like new again, i.e. they have been refurbished so that we all can gain redemption for our abandonment of God.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

Could I suggest that there is no "NEW" covenant. The "New covenant" protagonists, by their claims, are only trying to distance themselves from the nation of Israel with their New Covenant Theology.

Jesus Himself suggested that the Salvation Covenant was still the same covenant that has been in existence since the time of Adam. However, we know that the process, of how salvation is gained now, changed on the cross, as Daniel told us in Daniel 9:24b that it would.

However, I would suggest that the Gospels all consistently tell us that the Covenants and the Law have all been made like new again, i.e. they have been refurbished so that we all can gain redemption for our abandonment of God.

“Could I suggest that there is no ‘NEW’ covenant… the Covenants and the Law have all been made like new again… refurbished…”

No, you may not suggest that — unless you're ready to rip out the book of Hebrews and throw it in the trash. Because Scripture doesn’t say “refurbished.”
It says "He has made the first obsolete."
Not renewed.
Not rebranded.
Obsolete.

“He takes away the first in order to establish the second.”
— Hebrews 10:9

“In speaking of a new covenant, He makes the first one obsolete. And what is obsolete and growing old will soon disappear.”
— Hebrews 8:13

There’s your answer. Not mystical. Not symbolic. Just blunt.
The New Covenant replaced the Old. Full stop.


“Jesus suggested the covenant was still the same since Adam...”

Jesus said no such thing. He said:
“This cup is the new covenant in My blood.”
— Luke 22:20

That’s not the Adamic covenant. That’s not a patch. That’s a new thing.
The kind of new that involves blood and a cross — not “refurbishment.”
Scofieldites & Zionists always run to Daniel or vague Old Testament references when they get pinned by Jesus’ own words.

But here’s the brutal truth:
If the Old Covenant worked, you wouldn’t need the cross.
“For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion to look for a second.”
— Hebrews 8:7

And let’s torch the whole “distancing from Israel” claim while we’re at it:

“Not all who are descended from Israel are Israel… It is not the children of the flesh who are children of God, but the children of the promise.” — Romans 9:6–8

“If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed and heirs according to the promise.”
— Galatians 3:29

“But as for the others, they were broken off because of unbelief…” — Romans 11:20

The only thing we’re distancing ourselves from is a dead religion that crucified its Messiah and clings to legalism like it’s still 500 B.C.

So let’s say it again louder:

Jesus didn’t die so we could refurbish Moses.

The Talmud is not a continuation of Scripture — it’s a post-Christ, anti-Christ rebellion.

And Scofield didn’t “rightly divide” anything — he just surgically removed Christ from His own covenant.

“I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you… and are turning to a different gospel — which is really no gospel at all.” — Galatians 1:6–7

Scofieldism is that "different gospel".

It divides God’s people into two, rewrites the promises, and sidelines the very One who fulfilled them — Jesus Christ.

Let’s be clear:
I’m not attacking the Jews of the old — and now obsolete — covenant.
I’m defending Jesus — the true Israel, the fulfillment of the Law and the Prophets,
and the only name under heaven by which we must be saved. (Acts 4:12)

This isn’t “replacement theology.”
That’s just a slur people use when they don’t want to admit the New Covenant replaced the Old.

What I believe is what the apostles preached:
That all the promises of God are “Yes” in Christ — not outside Him. (2 Corinthians 1:20)
That the Church is the Body of Christ, the true Israel of God, born not of flesh, but of promise. (Galatians 3:29, Romans 9:6–8)

This isn’t a new idea.
It’s the Gospel.
And it’s time we say it — clearly, boldly, and without flinching.

 

[Jay Ross]

No, you may not suggest that — unless you're ready to rip out the book of Hebrews and throw it in the trash. Because Scripture doesn’t say “refurbished.”
It says "He has made the first obsolete."
Not renewed.
Not rebranded.
Obsolete.

“He takes away the first in order to establish the second.”
— Hebrews 10:9

“In speaking of a new covenant, He makes the first one obsolete. And what is obsolete and growing old will soon disappear.”
— Hebrews 8:13

There’s your answer. Not mystical. Not symbolic. Just blunt.
The New Covenant replaced the Old. Full stop.

From my own studies of the NT I have found that "new" appears 59 times in the NT in 46 verses. Below is what I have discovered: -



Below is the list of all of the verses where "new" is found in the NT. Titus 2:4 was not found in the list below for "new" as it has been translated as "younger. There are another 10 occasions where G:3501 has been translated as "younger" or a variation of young.

Occurrences of G:3501 in the list below have been highlighted in red. Otherwise the new listed root is G:2537.

1. Matthew 9:17 - Nor do they put new wine into old wineskins, or else the wineskins break, the wine is spilled, and the wineskins are ruined. But they put new wine into new wineskins, and both are preserved."
2. Matthew 13:52: - Then He said to them, "Therefore every scribe instructed concerning the kingdom of heaven is like a householder who brings out of his treasure things new and old."
3. Matthew 26:28: - For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
4. Matthew 26:29: - But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father's kingdom."
5. Matthew 27:60: - and laid it in his new tomb which he had hewn out of the rock; and he rolled a large stone against the door of the tomb, and departed.
6. Mark 1:27: - Then they were all amazed, so that they questioned among themselves, saying, "What is this? What new doctrine is this? For with authority He commands even the unclean spirits, and they obey Him."
7. Mark 2:21: No one sews a piece of unshrunk cloth on an old garment; or else the new piece pulls away from the old, and the tear is made worse.
8. Mark 2:22: - And no one puts new wine into old wineskins; or else the wine bursts the wineskins, the wine is spilled, and the wineskins are ruined. But new wine must be put into new wineskins."
9. Mark 14:24: - And He said to them, "This is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many.
10. Mark 14:25: - Assuredly, I say to you, I will no longer drink of the fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new in the kingdom of God."
11. Mark 16:17: - And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues;
12. Luke 5:36: - Then He spoke a parable to them: "No one puts a piece from a new garment on an old one; otherwise the new makes a tear, and also the piece that was taken out of the new does not match the old.
13. Luke 5:37: - And no one puts new wine into old wineskins; or else the new wine will burst the wineskins and be spilled, and the wineskins will be ruined.
14. Luke 5:38: - But new wine must be put into new wineskins, and both are preserved.
15. Luke 5:39: - And no one, having drunk old wine, immediately desires new; for he says, 'The old is better.'"
16. Luke 22:20: - Likewise He also took the cup after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is shed for you.
17. John 13:34: - A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another.
18. John 19:41: - Now in the place where He was crucified there was a garden, and in the garden a new tomb in which no one had yet been laid.
19. Acts 2:13: - Others mocking said, "They are full of new wine."
20. Acts 17:19: – And they took him and brought him to the Areopagus, saying, "May we know what this new doctrine is of which you speak?
21. Acts 17:21: - For all the Athenians and the foreigners who were there spent their time in nothing else but either to tell or to hear some new thing.
22. 1 Corinthians 5:7: - Therefore purge out the old leaven, that you may be a new lump, since you truly are unleavened. For indeed Christ, our Passover, was sacrificed for us.
23. 1 Corinthians 11:25: - In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me."
24. 2 Corinthians 3:6: - who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
25. 2 Corinthians 5:17: - Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.
26. Galatians 6:15: - For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but a new creation.
27. Ephesians 2:15: - having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace,
28. Ephesians 4:24: - and that you put on the new man which was created according to God, in true righteousness and holiness.
29. Colossians 2:16: - So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths,
30. Colossians 3:10: - and have put on the new {man} who is renewed in knowledge according to the image of Him who created him,
31. Hebrews 8:8: - Because finding fault with them, He says: "Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah
32. Hebrews 8:13: - 13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
33. Hebrews 9:15: - And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.
34. Hebrews 10:20: - 20 by a new and living way which He consecrated for us, through the veil, that is, His flesh,
35. Hebrews 12:24: - to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel.
36. 2 Peter 3:13: - Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.
37. 1 John 2:7: - Brethren, I write no new commandment to you, but an old commandment which you have had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which you heard from the beginning.
38. 1 John 2:8: - Again, a new commandment I write to you, which thing is true in Him and in you, because the darkness is passing away, and the true light is already shining.
39. 2 John 5: - And now I plead with you, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment to you, but that which we have had from the beginning: that we love one another.
40. Revelation 2:17: - "He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes I will give some of the hidden manna to eat. And I will give him a white stone, and on the stone a new name written which no one knows except him who receives it."'
41. Revelation 3:12: - He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he shall go out no more. I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God, the New Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God. And I will write on him My new name.
42. Revelation 5:9: - And they sang a new song, saying:
    "You are worthy to take the scroll,
    And to open its seals;
    For You were slain,
    And have redeemed us to God by Your blood
    Out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation,
43. Revelation 14:3: - They sang as it were a new song before the throne, before the four living creatures, and the elders; and no one could learn that song except the hundred and forty-four thousand who were redeemed from the earth.
44. Revelation 21:1: - Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea.
45. Revelation 21:2: - Then I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
46. Revelation 21:5: - Then He who sat on the throne said, "Behold, I make all things new." And He said to me, "Write, for these words are true and faithful."

Please note G:3501 is also translated as "younger"

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

From my own studies of the NT I have found that "new" appears 59 times in the NT in 46 verses. Below is what I have discovered: -

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Below is the list of all of the verses where "new" is found in the NT. Titus 2:4 was not found in the list below for "new" as it has been translated as "younger. There are another 10 occasions where G:3501 has been translated as "younger" or a variation of young.

Occurrences of G:3501 in the list below have been highlighted in red. Otherwise the new listed root is G:2537.

1. Matthew 9:17 - Nor do they put new wine into old wineskins, or else the wineskins break, the wine is spilled, and the wineskins are ruined. But they put new wine into new wineskins, and both are preserved."
2. Matthew 13:52: - Then He said to them, "Therefore every scribe instructed concerning the kingdom of heaven is like a householder who brings out of his treasure things new and old."
3. Matthew 26:28: - For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
4. Matthew 26:29: - But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father's kingdom."
5. Matthew 27:60: - and laid it in his new tomb which he had hewn out of the rock; and he rolled a large stone against the door of the tomb, and departed.
6. Mark 1:27: - Then they were all amazed, so that they questioned among themselves, saying, "What is this? What new doctrine is this? For with authority He commands even the unclean spirits, and they obey Him."
7. Mark 2:21: No one sews a piece of unshrunk cloth on an old garment; or else the new piece pulls away from the old, and the tear is made worse.
8. Mark 2:22: - And no one puts new wine into old wineskins; or else the wine bursts the wineskins, the wine is spilled, and the wineskins are ruined. But new wine must be put into new wineskins."
9. Mark 14:24: - And He said to them, "This is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many.
10. Mark 14:25: - Assuredly, I say to you, I will no longer drink of the fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new in the kingdom of God."
11. Mark 16:17: - And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues;
12. Luke 5:36: - Then He spoke a parable to them: "No one puts a piece from a new garment on an old one; otherwise the new makes a tear, and also the piece that was taken out of the new does not match the old.
13. Luke 5:37: - And no one puts new wine into old wineskins; or else the new wine will burst the wineskins and be spilled, and the wineskins will be ruined.
14. Luke 5:38: - But new wine must be put into new wineskins, and both are preserved.
15. Luke 5:39: - And no one, having drunk old wine, immediately desires new; for he says, 'The old is better.'"
16. Luke 22:20: - Likewise He also took the cup after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is shed for you.
17. John 13:34: - A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another.
18. John 19:41: - Now in the place where He was crucified there was a garden, and in the garden a new tomb in which no one had yet been laid.
19. Acts 2:13: - Others mocking said, "They are full of new wine."
20. Acts 17:19: – And they took him and brought him to the Areopagus, saying, "May we know what this new doctrine is of which you speak?
21. Acts 17:21: - For all the Athenians and the foreigners who were there spent their time in nothing else but either to tell or to hear some new

1. The Greek Word Used Is “Kainos” — Not “Neos”

G2537 - καινός (kainos) = new in kind, quality, nature — not just in age
"especially in freshness" — not reused, not recycled, not refurbished.

That’s what Luke 22:20, Hebrews 8:8, 8:13, 9:15, 10:20, and 12:24 use.
The New Covenant is “kainē diathēkē” — a completely new kind of covenant, not just a newer version of the old.

If God meant “refurbished,” He would have used G3501 - νέος (neos), meaning young or recent — but He didn’t.

2. Scripture Says It’s a Different Covenant, Not a Rebranded One

“He has made the first obsolete.” — Hebrews 8:13
“He takes away the first to establish the second.” — Hebrews 10:9
“This cup is the new covenant in My blood.” — Luke 22:20

You don’t call something obsolete if you’re keeping it alive.
You don’t replace something if you’re just upgrading it.


3. Logic Check: If It Were Refurbished, the Old Would Still Be Binding

But:

We're no longer under the Law. (Romans 6:14)

The priesthood changed. (Hebrews 7:12)

The temple veil was torn. (Matthew 27:51)

Sacrifices are over. (Hebrews 10:18)

There is no biblical or linguistic case for a "refurbished" Mosaic covenant.

“This cup is the new (kainē) covenant in My blood.”
— Jesus Christ, Luke 22:20

Not in Moses.
Not in tablets.
In His blood.

That’s not a patch job.
That’s a blood-soaked contract signed by God Himself, ratified on the Cross, and replacing everything that came before it.

 

[Jay Ross]

That’s a blood-soaked contract signed by God Himself, ratified on the Cross, and replacing everything that came before it.

The Renewed covenant spoken of in Jer 31:31 is the Kingdom of Priests, a Holy Nation and God's Possession among the Nations covenant, this covenant mentioned in Jer 31:31 has nothing to do with the Salvation Covenant that has existed since the time of Adam.

Now if I take a car into a motor mechanic to have the motor renewed, the old motor is not replaced, but rather key elements of the motor are replaced to refurbish the motor, before it is put back in the car. The motor is not brand new when it is put back into the care, but it is renewed so that it is like new again. The original motor did not become obsolete, but our memory of the original motor's performance will fade as the refurbished motor impresses us with what it can do after it was renewed.

That is like the salvation covenant that God originally entered into with Adam, it lost its power and effectiveness, and as such God renewed those part of the original covenant to make a far better Salvation Covenant from the time of the Cross. Now the former structure of the Salvation Covenant will fade from our minds as we see the improvements in the refurbished Salvation Covenant. The basic backbone of the original Salvation Covenant was not changed, but the process by which mankind would receive redemption was changed to improve the original Salvation Covenant to match what we have available to us today.

This may be to revolutionary for you to comprehend, but it is what God has put into place to go forward from the time of the cross.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

The Renewed covenant spoken of in Jer 31:31 is the Kingdom of Priests, a Holy Nation and God's Possession among the Nations covenant, this covenant mentioned in Jer 31:31 has nothing to do with the Salvation Covenant that has existed since the time of Adam.

Now if I take a car into a motor mechanic to have the motor renewed, the old motor is not replaced, but rather key elements of the motor are replaced to refurbish the motor, before it is put back in the car. The motor is not brand new when it is put back into the care, but it is renewed so that it is like new again. The original motor did not become obsolete, but our memory of the original motor's performance will fade as the refurbished motor impresses us with what it can do after it was renewed.

That is like the salvation covenant that God originally entered into with Adam, it lost its power and effectiveness, and as such God renewed those part of the original covenant to make a far better Salvation Covenant from the time of the Cross. Now the former structure of the Salvation Covenant will fade from our minds as we see the improvements in the refurbished Salvation Covenant. The basic backbone of the original Salvation Covenant was not changed, but the process by which mankind would receive redemption was changed to improve the original Salvation Covenant to match what we have available to us today.

This may be to revolutionary for you to comprehend, but it is what God has put into place to go forward from the time of the cross.

“The covenant from Jeremiah 31:31 is not the salvation covenant — it’s just about national identity, not salvation.”

Wrong.

Let’s read the actual text — not a Scofield hallucination:
“I will make a new covenant…
I will forgive their iniquity, and remember their sin no more.”
— Jeremiah 31:31–34

You just said this covenant has “nothing to do with salvation.”
But God says it’s about the forgiveness of sin.
And unless you’ve discovered some fantasy version of salvation that doesn’t involve sin being forgiven, then you’re not just mistaken — you’re peddling heresy.

“It’s not a new covenant, it’s a renewed one — like fixing a motor…”

Let’s bury that garage-shop metaphor in one line of Greek:
The word is kainos, not neos —
brand new in kind, not recycled, upgraded, or refurbished.
Not a tune-up.
Not a touch-up.
A new creation. (2 Corinthians 5:17)

And the Bible doesn’t suggest this — it declares it:
“He takes away the first to establish the second.” — Hebrews 10:9
“He has made the first obsolete.” — Hebrews 8:13

This isn’t a refurbished motor.
This is a brand new engine, powered by the blood of Christ, installed by God Himself —
and the old one? Scrapped. Left in the dust at Calvary.

“This may be too revolutionary for you to comprehend…”

No. What’s revolutionary is God becoming flesh,
shedding His blood, and abolishing a covenant that couldn’t save anyone (Hebrews 7:19) —
replacing it with a new, eternal covenant based on better promises (Hebrews 8:6).

Your “renewed covenant” fantasy?
That’s not revolutionary —
That’s regression.

It drags people backward to a Law that Jesus already fulfilled, a priesthood He already replaced, and a system that God already declared obsolete.

You’re not defending Scripture.
You’re clinging to a corpse.
And the King who walked out of the tomb didn’t come to resuscitate Moses —
He came to replace him.

 

[Jay Ross]

“The covenant from Jeremiah 31:31 is not the salvation covenant — it’s just about national identity, not salvation.”

Wrong.

Let’s read the actual text — not a Scofield hallucination:
“I will make a new covenant…
I will forgive their iniquity, and remember their sin no more.”
— Jeremiah 31:31–34

You just said this covenant has “nothing to do with salvation.”
But God says it’s about the forgiveness of sin.
And unless you’ve discovered some fantasy version of salvation that doesn’t involve sin being forgiven, then you’re not just mistaken — you’re peddling heresy.

“It’s not a new covenant, it’s a renewed one — like fixing a motor…”

Let’s bury that garage-shop metaphor in one line of Greek:
The word is kainos, not neos —
brand new in kind, not recycled, upgraded, or refurbished.
Not a tune-up.
Not a touch-up.
A new creation. (2 Corinthians 5:17)

And the Bible doesn’t suggest this — it declares it:
“He takes away the first to establish the second.” — Hebrews 10:9
“He has made the first obsolete.” — Hebrews 8:13

This isn’t a refurbished motor.
This is a brand new engine, powered by the blood of Christ, installed by God Himself —
and the old one? Scrapped. Left in the dust at Calvary.

“This may be too revolutionary for you to comprehend…”

No. What’s revolutionary is God becoming flesh,
shedding His blood, and abolishing a covenant that couldn’t save anyone (Hebrews 7:19) —
replacing it with a new, eternal covenant based on better promises (Hebrews 8:6).

Your “renewed covenant” fantasy?
That’s not revolutionary —
That’s regression.

It drags people backward to a Law that Jesus already fulfilled, a priesthood He already replaced, and a system that God already declared obsolete.

You’re not defending Scripture.
You’re clinging to a corpse.
And the King who walked out of the tomb didn’t come to resuscitate Moses —
He came to replace him.

Let us see where your claim is found in this passage quoted: -

Jer 31:31-34: - 31 "Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah — 32 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the Lord. 33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 34 No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, 'Know the Lord,' for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more."​

NKJV​

Yes, it does say that God will forgive them their sin of their continual idolatrous worship. Jer 31:31 comes into play at the end of the visitation of the fathers' iniquities upon their descendant children until the end of the fourth age of the existence of the nation of Israel from the time of the birth of Isaac.

God does prophecy that He will gather them to himself after they repent of their father's and their own continuous sin of idolatrous worship and that He will plant them in His soil and will teach them on the rock that will become the greatest mountain in all of the earth.

That He has also promised that He will remove all of the beasts from the face of the earth for a period of time of peace for Israel.

Jer 31:31ff is still in the near future and will begin to play out in around 20 years' time when the fullness with respect to time of the Gentiles has come to its completion, and after that all of Israel will be saved.

I have a very different understanding of what is to come with respect to your understanding. Time will show who is right and wrong with their peculiar understanding of God's end time prophecies and how they will unfold.

Goodbye

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

Let us see where your claim is found in this passage quoted: -

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Jer 31:31-34: - 31 "Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah — 32 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the Lord. 33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 34 No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, 'Know the Lord,' for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more."​

NKJV​

Yes, it does say that God will forgive them their sin of their continual idolatrous worship. Jer 31:31 comes into play at the end of the visitation of the fathers' iniquities upon their descendant children until the end of the fourth age of the existence of the nation of Israel from the time of the birth of Isaac.

God does prophecy that He will gather them to himself after they repent of their father's and their own continuous sin of idolatrous worship and that He will plant them in His soil and will teach them on the rock that will become the greatest mountain in all of the earth.

That He has also promised that He will remove all of the beasts from the face of the earth for a period of time of peace for Israel.

Jer 31:31ff is still in the near future and will begin to play out in around 20 years' time when the fullness with respect to time of the Gentiles has come to its completion, and after that all of Israel will be saved.

I have a very different understanding of what is to come with respect to your understanding. Time will show who is right and wrong with their peculiar understanding of God's end time prophecies and how they will unfold.

Goodbye

“Jeremiah 31 is about Israel’s future national repentance. It hasn’t happened yet. It’s not the salvation covenant. Time will tell who’s right.”

Time already did.
It’s called the First Century.
And the covenant from Jeremiah 31 has already been fulfilled — not “in 20 years,” but 2,000 years ago at the Cross.

Let’s see what God says about it — not your Scofield-flavored fan fiction:

“This is the covenant I will make with them after those days, says the Lord: I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them... Their sins and iniquities I will remember no more.”
— Hebrews 10:16–17, directly quoting Jeremiah 31

That’s New Testament.
That’s present tense.
That’s not “future national Israel.”
That’s now. In Christ. For those who believe.

You can throw up timelines and dispensational charts all day, but the Word of God already declared:
“He has obtained a more excellent ministry… the mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises.”
— Hebrews 8:6

And if Jeremiah 31 is still future,
then Hebrews is a lie.
The Cross meant nothing.
And the blood of Christ hasn’t done what it says it already did.

So no — this isn’t about “different understandings.”
It’s about whether you believe the risen King
or keep waiting for a temple He already called desolate.

Goodbye? Sure.
But when Christ returns, it won’t be to negotiate timelines.

It’ll be to judge those
who rejected the only covenant that saves.
The one signed in His blood.

And that is Jeremiah 31 —
fulfilled in Christ, proclaimed in Hebrews,
and rejected by you.

 

[Jay Ross]

I have a very different understanding of what is to come with respect to your understanding. Time will show who is right and wrong with their peculiar understanding of God's end time prophecies and how they will unfold.

Goodbye

As Bill Gates believes, the world will be a better place in around 20 years' time let us wait until then.

As what I believe has not yet unfolded, it is improper for you to dismiss what I believe until all of the evidence has come to its completion.

Sadly, you have been posting many false claims about what I actually believe. Since my demise may happen before the completion of the 20 year period, it is rather premature for you to claim that you are the only one who is right.

Since it is impossible to have a two-way conversation with you where we go back and forth trying to understand the other, I am withdrawing from this conversation.

Goodbye