We have a new covid relief bill of $900,000,000,000 to help the masses!

[Ronald Nolette]

Congress just passed Covid relief 2 worth 900 billion dollars. With Covid one at 2.3 trillion dollars that is 3.2trillion dollars in extra deficit spending to give people money that was created out of thin air.

We should feel proud! After all these two bills only put every single man woman and child on in America the hook to pay off another $9,000 in govt debt! You, and I and every single person in America now has a personal mortgage of over $82,000 once the govt. bill comes due!

Happy spending!

 

[Rene Loup]

Desperate times call for desperate measures. You cannot put a price on human life. The Spanish Flu is often discussed these days and estimated death tolls widely vary, ranging from 17-100 million deaths.[1] These people did not have the same kind of relief, comfort, and technology to survive like we do today. Unless you have experienced this sort of crisis before, this kind of post only comes from an Ivory Tower perspective. Empathy over money can do wonders.[2]

We are a highly advanced and educated society. We are more than capable of figuring out solutions once this crisis is over, provided that it is all within God's Laws.

1. Reassessing the Global Mortality Burden of the 1918 Influenza Pandemic
2. Luke 16:1-15, Matthew 6:19-24, 25:31-46, 1 Timothy 6:1-10

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Desperate times call for desperate measures. You cannot put a price on human life. The Spanish Flu is often discussed these days and estimated death tolls widely vary, ranging from 17-100 million deaths.[1] These people did not have the same kind of relief, comfort, and technology to survive like we do today. Unless you have experienced this sort of crisis before, this kind of post only comes from an Ivory Tower perspective. Empathy over money can do wonders.[2]

We are a highly advanced and educated society. We are more than capable of figuring out solutions once this crisis is over, provided that it is all within God's Laws.

1. Reassessing the Global Mortality Burden of the 1918 Influenza Pandemic
2. Luke 16:1-15, Matthew 6:19-24, 25:31-46, 1 Timothy 6:1-10

We cannot put a price on human life? As mankind we have and we have deemed it very cheap.

1. Wars take millions yearly
2. Abortion worldwide takes almost a million yearly.
3. We wearhouse the elderly and allow suicide
4. We legalize tobacco which takes over a million worldwide
5. Alcohol and drug abuse take over a million worldide yearly.

All these things that are legal costs the wortld several trillion in expense every year!
This nation has an actual debt of over $28 trillion That is over $84,000 in debt for every man woman and child in America. And that is only teh federal actual debt, it does not include the unfunded future debt. When you add the state, local, and personal debt. America is doen as soon as confidence in our fiat currency wanes.

The desperate measure (IMNSHO) will be the fulfilment of the prophecy calling for a 1 world govt. which brings in the ten rulers, then the antichrist!

BTW: I have lived dirt poor before. I had a family and had more month than money every month! I know what it is like to live off beans, hot dogs, mac &cheese and have hamburg as a 5 star meal.

 

[WaterSong]

Link below includes video. Don't look for those $2000. stimulus checks anytime soon folks.

Frustrations flare as $2,000 checks blocked for fourth straight day

Senate Republicans blocked a House-passed bill to increase the stimulus checks from $600 to $2,000 on Friday, as well as an attempt by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) to set up votes on the House bill and a competing proposal from Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) that would link the money to a unrelated tech fight and creating a new elections commission.....

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Link below includes video. Don't look for those $2000. stimulus checks anytime soon folks.

Frustrations flare as $2,000 checks blocked for fourth straight day

Senate Republicans blocked a House-passed bill to increase the stimulus checks from $600 to $2,000 on Friday, as well as an attempt by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) to set up votes on the House bill and a competing proposal from Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) that would link the money to a unrelated tech fight and creating a new elections commission.....

And if we get that extra $1400 dollars, it will add another $500,000,000,000 to the national debt. That is another $1,500 /every man woman and child in America! When is enough debt going to be enough to some?

Last fiscal year America paid $385,000,000,000 in interest on the national debt! that is over $1,200 for every person
The national debt is now $27,500,000,000,000 or over $82,000 for every person
The total indebtedness of America (natl., local, state and personal) is over $82,000,000,000,000 or over $246,000 for every person. We are in a high speed thrust towards becoming like Venezuala, Zimbabwe, or teh Weimar Republic!

 

[Addy]

and how much extra money was WASTED on this election... all those ballots that had to be re-counted... all those law-suits... with
absolutely NO RESOLUTION... Half of America still thinks the election was stolen.

 

[WaterSong]

And if we get that extra $1400 dollars, it will add another $500,000,000,000 to the national debt. That is another $1,500 /every man woman and child in America! When is enough debt going to be enough to some?

Last fiscal year America paid $385,000,000,000 in interest on the national debt! that is over $1,200 for every person
The national debt is now $27,500,000,000,000 or over $82,000 for every person
The total indebtedness of America (natl., local, state and personal) is over $82,000,000,000,000 or over $246,000 for every person. We are in a high speed thrust towards becoming like Venezuala, Zimbabwe, or teh Weimar Republic!

Did you receive and utilize the check that was sent out before this latest effort to issue a new stimulus check to the tax payer masses?

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

We cannot put a price on human life? As mankind we have and we have deemed it very cheap.

1. Wars take millions yearly
2. Abortion worldwide takes almost a million yearly.
3. We wearhouse the elderly and allow suicide
4. We legalize tobacco which takes over a million worldwide
5. Alcohol and drug abuse take over a million worldide yearly.

All these things that are legal costs the wortld several trillion in expense every year!
This nation has an actual debt of over $28 trillion That is over $84,000 in debt for every man woman and child in America. And that is only teh federal actual debt, it does not include the unfunded future debt. When you add the state, local, and personal debt. America is doen as soon as confidence in our fiat currency wanes.

The desperate measure (IMNSHO) will be the fulfilment of the prophecy calling for a 1 world govt. which brings in the ten rulers, then the antichrist!

BTW: I have lived dirt poor before. I had a family and had more month than money every month! I know what it is like to live off beans, hot dogs, mac &cheese and have hamburg as a 5 star meal.

Congress just passed Covid relief 2 worth 900 billion dollars. With Covid one at 2.3 trillion dollars that is 3.2trillion dollars in extra deficit spending to give people money that was created out of thin air.

We should feel proud! After all these two bills only put every single man woman and child on in America the hook to pay off another $9,000 in govt debt! You, and I and every single person in America now has a personal mortgage of over $82,000 once the govt. bill comes due!

Happy spending!

Only half of Americans are employed so it's double that figure. They can't even balance the budget. As the world watches us print trillions of dollars for the last twelve years, they realize it is a massive hole that we will ever get out of, nor will they. This is probably their motivation for the Great Reset. Collapse the economy, no one can pay their bills, they offer a loan forgiveness - only we must all relinquish our assets - whoever has any left has any left that is. The Central banks and the elites don't actually lose anything by collapsing the economy, they gain all the property. Our consolation is, they forgive our debt - that for the most part they created and inflated. Paper Money becomes worthless, digital currency replaces it and income equality is initiated. Every one gets the same, a quick slight-of-hand redistribution of wealth. They figure if we all have the same, which will be no possessions ( Imagine that - John Lennon never thought his dream would come), then we won't feel envy, steal or war against each other - finally, peace on earth. Rodney King will no longer wonder, "Can we all get along?" But who will get along? After pestilence and wars and maybe a little help with a massive sterilization program, they will get the population down to where they believe everyone can thrive comfortably - about 500 million - these folks will all get along. This all sounds heartless, ruthless and evil, but to the elites, logical and for the best. Only
... They forgot to factor in just one thing that will cause this Utopian model to crash, SIN!
Our only hope is for Jesus to return and rid this planet of sin and evil.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Did you receive and utilize the check that was sent out before this latest effort to issue a new stimulus check to the tax payer masses?

Of course I did. Just because I think the checks are adding to teh national debt doesn't mean I won't accept free money if someone waves it at me with no strings.

There is a much better way of getting help to the "masses" than just blindly cutting checks for everyone who makes under an arbitrary limit.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Only half of Americans are employed so it's double that figure. They can't even balance the budget. As the world watches us print trillions of dollars for the last twelve years, they realize it is a massive hole that we will ever get out of, nor will they. This is probably their motivation for the Great Reset. Collapse the economy, no one can pay their bills, they offer a loan forgiveness - only we must all relinquish our assets - whoever has any left has any left that is. The Central banks and the elites don't actually lose anything by collapsing the economy, they gain all the property. Our consolation is, they forgive our debt - that for the most part they created and inflated. Paper Money becomes worthless, digital currency replaces it and income equality is initiated. Every one gets the same, a quick slight-of-hand redistribution of wealth. They figure if we all have the same, which will be no possessions ( Imagine that - John Lennon never thought his dream would come), then we won't feel envy, steal or war against each other - finally, peace on earth. Rodney King will no longer wonder, "Can we all get along?" But who will get along? After pestilence and wars and maybe a little help with a massive sterilization program, they will get the population down to where they believe everyone can thrive comfortably - about 500 million - these folks will all get along. This all sounds heartless, ruthless and evil, but to the elites, logical and for the best. Only
... They forgot to factor in just one thing that will cause this Utopian model to crash, SIN!
Our only hope is for Jesus to return and rid this planet of sin and evil.

Yeah I think the powers that be will be able to initiate the great reset in 2021. They do not realize (for the most part) that they are just puppets being manipulated on the human level to work out Satans schemes. Just like Satan doesn't realize he is allowed only enough rope to hang himself with by God.

Given the fiscal devastation governments foisted on the worlds citizens through this man made pandemic, I will not be surprised if we see the one world govt. long prophesied in Daniel come to pass in 2021 or 2022.

 

[WaterSong]

Of course I did. Just because I think the checks are adding to teh national debt doesn't mean I won't accept free money if someone waves it at me with no strings.

There is a much better way of getting help to the "masses" than just blindly cutting checks for everyone who makes under an arbitrary limit.

Oh, but that money isn't free. You laid out a whole litany of its costs. Really, you are part of the problem you delineated, don't apologize for it, and yet make a litany of complaints against what you are happy to take advantage of.
You don't actually have a point when you're part of the problem you outlined.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Oh, but that money isn't free. You laid out a whole litany of its costs. Really, you are part of the problem you delineated, don't apologize for it, and yet make a litany of complaints against what you are happy to take advantage of.
You don't actually have a point when you're part of the problem you outlined.

Well I laid it out and I do believe that. It is "free" to me in the sense I did not work for it nor paid for it (now). I argued against the unlimited stimulus money, I wrote my congressman, but that doesn't mean I won't accept teh check if they decide ot give it.

If that makes me part of the problem- so be it. I was and am still against the law. I am against many laws the govt. has passed, but still obey them (if they do not violate Scripture). If they never gave out the money, I would have been fine with that as well.

If you wish to know what I am really for?

1. Teh next budget must be balanced and frozen for five years.
2. Freeze all entitlement payments at those level for the next five years.
3. Increase the taxes on the wealthiest 10% by an extra 7.5% for the next five years
4. Take those taxes and pay down the debt for the 5 years.
5. After teh five years - all excess interest money from five years prior goes to further reduce the debt coninously.
6. Any increase in any budget item must be accompanied by either a reduction in another program or new taxes to pay for it by those who benefit from it the most.
7. force the federal government to live in only the programs the constitution allows it and rid the federal govt. of all current unconstitutional programs currently in effect.

What would be those resutrls?

A severe harsh depression that would endure for at least 3-4 years.
The debt would start to be reduced on a "bigly" way.
States and localities would finally be held responsible for that the constitution says they are responsible for.

Course this won't happen, but I beelieve it should. So in the meantime if Uncle trump and now Uncle Biden wants to deposit money in my account ? I will simply say thank you!

 

[WaterSong]

Well I laid it out and I do believe that. It is "free" to me in the sense I did not work for it nor paid for it (now). I argued against the unlimited stimulus money, I wrote my congressman, but that doesn't mean I won't accept teh check if they decide ot give it.

If that makes me part of the problem- so be it. I was and am still against the law. I am against many laws the govt. has passed, but still obey them (if they do not violate Scripture). If they never gave out the money, I would have been fine with that as well.

If you wish to know what I am really for?

1. Teh next budget must be balanced and frozen for five years.
2. Freeze all entitlement payments at those level for the next five years.
3. Increase the taxes on the wealthiest 10% by an extra 7.5% for the next five years
4. Take those taxes and pay down the debt for the 5 years.
5. After teh five years - all excess interest money from five years prior goes to further reduce the debt coninously.
6. Any increase in any budget item must be accompanied by either a reduction in another program or new taxes to pay for it by those who benefit from it the most.
7. force the federal government to live in only the programs the constitution allows it and rid the federal govt. of all current unconstitutional programs currently in effect.

What would be those resutrls?

A severe harsh depression that would endure for at least 3-4 years.
The debt would start to be reduced on a "bigly" way.
States and localities would finally be held responsible for that the constitution says they are responsible for.

Course this won't happen, but I beelieve it should. So in the meantime if Uncle trump and now Uncle Biden wants to deposit money in my account ? I will simply say thank you!

I'm sure. And in the meantime appear foolish casting aspersions upon President Trump and all those who past the laws that make for that gratitude. That's called hypocrisy.

It's wrong! Wrong, to increase the deficit by giving people money during this pandemic. WRONG!
Thank you for the money you gave me during this pandemic.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I'm sure. And in the meantime appear foolish casting aspersions upon President Trump and all those who past the laws that make for that gratitude. That's called hypocrisy.

It's wrong! Wrong, to increase the deficit by giving people money during this pandemic. WRONG!
Thank you for the money you gave me during this pandemic.

Well it may seem hypocritical to you and that is fine. But neither you nor I are teh final arbiters of what constitues hypocrisy or not. If you wish to return your check, you are free to do so.

If I could have I would have stopped them from passing the relief. But once passed, if it is not contrary to the teaching of SCripture I am free to accept or reject that money with a clean conscience before God. Example:

A soldier does not think the war they are shipping him off to fight in is right! Too bad He has to go. I may disagree with a national speed limit, but I must obey it on the interstates or pay the rice.

Once government passes a statute, if it does not violate SCripture, we are to be subject to it.

YOu are free to disagree with me, I have no problem with that. This is a personal decision we all must make.

I do know now that Georgia voted the two dems into the senate, Biden is going to pass the remaining $1,400 for me and all others under the $600 statute. I think they are foolish in doing this as well! When it gets deposited into my account, I will simply say thank you even though I oppose them doing so.

In 2020 we added over $4trillion to th enational debt! I have a govt. pension, social security and medicare! I add to the debt! They have already taken all teh money I contributed to each and already spent it in the general budget. So every month my benefits add a bit more to the debt!

Once again I may oppose a statute or law passed as uniwse and foolish, but if it is passed, if it does not violate SCripture- Romans 13 is still in effect.

so thank you for paying fro my stimulus check!

 

[WaterSong]

Well it may seem hypocritical to you and that is fine. But neither you nor I are teh final arbiters of what constitues hypocrisy or not. If you wish to return your check, you are free to do so.

If I could have I would have stopped them from passing the relief. But once passed, if it is not contrary to the teaching of SCripture I am free to accept or reject that money with a clean conscience before God. Example:

A soldier does not think the war they are shipping him off to fight in is right! Too bad He has to go. I may disagree with a national speed limit, but I must obey it on the interstates or pay the rice.

Once government passes a statute, if it does not violate SCripture, we are to be subject to it.

YOu are free to disagree with me, I have no problem with that. This is a personal decision we all must make.

I do know now that Georgia voted the two dems into the senate, Biden is going to pass the remaining $1,400 for me and all others under the $600 statute. I think they are foolish in doing this as well! When it gets deposited into my account, I will simply say thank you even though I oppose them doing so.

In 2020 we added over $4trillion to th enational debt! I have a govt. pension, social security and medicare! I add to the debt! They have already taken all teh money I contributed to each and already spent it in the general budget. So every month my benefits add a bit more to the debt!

Once again I may oppose a statute or law passed as uniwse and foolish, but if it is passed, if it does not violate SCripture- Romans 13 is still in effect.

so thank you for paying fro my stimulus check!

Who other than we are able to define hypocrisy? Especially when it announces itself so publicly.
You make this huge statement as someone opposed to the Trump presidency apparently that the stimulus is this and that and on and on and on. And then you admit you'll take the money that is derived through all those means of carping that you laid out as being sooooo wrong. You are part of the problem you bit*ch about. You contribute to the problem you carp about over and over again. And then have the temerity to say, if someone wants to give you free money you'll take it!
When, all that time you made your screed after screed about how that money isn't free in the least. But you don't realize that because you like free money that in truth, isn't free at all. Per your screed.

Yeah, that's hypocrisy. If you can gripe about the stimulus adding to our national debt and then happily admit you add to our national debt by taking stimulus money, that's hypocrisy. And then you think we aren't the final arbiters who define hypocrisy? That's a cop out. You're the admitted living unapologetic self admitted example of hypocrisy. You make a huge screed against the stimulus and then admit you're a factor in what you screech about.

Feel free to give back your stimulus check. Don't carp and then be the factor that is the reason you carp.

That's like someone saying, I really hate how all this free money is adding to our national debt. It's obscene!
Did you take any of that so called free money that's obscene?
Well, yes! If someone is going to give me obscene free money I'll take it.

What isn't hypocrisy? I have never received a stimulus check. Neither me nor hubby.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Who other than we are able to define hypocrisy? Especially when it announces itself so publicly.
You make this huge statement as someone opposed to the Trump presidency apparently that the stimulus is this and that and on and on and on. And then you admit you'll take the money that is derived through all those means of carping that you laid out as being sooooo wrong. You are part of the problem you bit*ch about. You contribute to the problem you carp about over and over again. And then have the temerity to say, if someone wants to give you free money you'll take it!
When, all that time you made your screed after screed about how that money isn't free in the least. But you don't realize that because you like free money that in truth, isn't free at all. Per your screed.

Yeah, that's hypocrisy. If you can gripe about the stimulus adding to our national debt and then happily admit you add to our national debt by taking stimulus money, that's hypocrisy. And then you think we aren't the final arbiters who define hypocrisy? That's a cop out. You're the admitted living unapologetic self admitted example of hypocrisy. You make a huge screed against the stimulus and then admit you're a factor in what you screech about.

Feel free to give back your stimulus check. Don't carp and then be the factor that is the reason you carp.

That's like someone saying, I really hate how all this free money is adding to our national debt. It's obscene!
Did you take any of that so called free money that's obscene?
Well, yes! If someone is going to give me obscene free money I'll take it.

What isn't hypocrisy? I have never received a stimulus check. Neither me nor hubby.

Well then to you its hypocrisy! So be it! If Biden sends the balance of the $2,000, I will take it as well! And of they wish to send me five more after I have voiced my opposition to the checks in the first place, I will accept them as well and use them to prepare my family for the ultimate collapse of this nation from within.