What have you heard about the thousand year reign of Christ?

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Rev. 20 is the passage that explains more about the millennium.

Some biblical scholars and theologians, among the plethora of them with different and contradictory ideas existing in modern Christendom, have come to think that those thousand years are not even a real period of time. What have they taught you?
 
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Rev. 20 is the passage that explains more about the millennium.

Some biblical scholars and theologians, among the plethora of them with different and contradictory ideas existing in modern Christendom, have come to think that those thousand years are not even a real period of time. What have they taught you?
I understand it as a literal thousand years ….

With that said …I don’t study Revelation much…just because it is not something we in the church of God will be going through (at least not in our physical bodies) But the one person who does seems to have a handle on this is Keraz. He seems to be very knowledgeable of Revelation and he would be the one to ask.
 

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Thanks for your input.

The 1000 years is relevant to all alive humans cause it is about how earth goes from being a planet inhabited and ruled by imperfect and evil humans, to one that is inhabited by survivors of the great tribulation and resurrected ones, who are tested in the end to later live eternally as the human race of the future.

How do we explain to people that they can survive the great tribulation and become part of the perfect inhabitants of the planet if we don't know what will happen during the great tribulation, at its end, and after that in the Millenium?
 
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Rev. 20 is the passage that explains more about the millennium.

Some biblical scholars and theologians, among the plethora of them with different and contradictory ideas existing in modern Christendom, have come to think that those thousand years are not even a real period of time. What have they taught you?
It will last 1,000 years.

Jews will rule on the earth.

church will co reign with Jesus from Heaven.

Gentile nations have to send reps to Jerusalem once a year to pay homage and celebrate the feast of tabernacles.

Many amny more if you are interested to see the passages that the prophets foretold to describe teh millenial kingdom.

The only thing the book of REv reveals is how long Jesus physical reign on earth lasts.
 

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I understand it as a literal thousand years ….

With that said …I don’t study Revelation much…just because it is not something we in the church of God will be going through (at least not in our physical bodies)
Correct, and, For The Body Of Christ, in our glorified state, we will 'rule and reign' With Christ,
From the Heavens,

Php_3:20 "For our conversation [citizenship] Is In Heaven; from Whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:" (also 2 Corinthians 5:1-2; Ephesians 1:3; Ephesians 1:20:
Ephesians 2:6; Philippians 3:20; Colossians 1:5; 2 Timothy 4:18)
Heavenly Hope, According To The Revelation Of The MYSTERY!

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ” (online)

Israel is the one to go through the Great Tribulation of Revelation, According
To Prophecy,
in order to "inherit the earth!
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Grace, Peace, And JOY In Christ, And In His Word Of Truth, Rightly
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Rev. 20 is the passage that explains more about the millennium.

Some biblical scholars and theologians, among the plethora of them with different and contradictory ideas existing in modern Christendom, have come to think that those thousand years are not even a real period of time. What have they taught you?
Here is what the Bible (KJB; not scholars, Mal. 2:12), teaches:

See Study 13 - 13 Bible Studies (PDF), Prophecy, History, Theology, Legacy by brother Aaron Earnest : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

QUESTION: HOW WILL THE ORDER OF EVENTS GO AT JESUS SECOND ADVENT (COMING)?

[01.] A devastating earthquake and hailstorm (Revelation 16:18–21)​
[02.] The second coming of Jesus for His saints (Matthew 24:30, 31)​
[03.] The saved dead raised to life (1 Thessalonians 4:16)​
[04.] The saved given immortality (1 Corinthians 15:51–55)​
[05.] The saved given bodies like Jesus (1 John 3:2; Philippians 3:20, 21)​
[06.] All the righteous caught up into the clouds (1 Thessalonians 4:17)​
[07.] The living wicked slain by the breath of the Lord’s mouth (Isaiah 11:4)​
[08.] The unsaved dead remain in their graves until the end of the 1,000 years (Revelation 20:5)​
[09.] Jesus takes the righteous to heaven (John 13:33, 36; 14:2, 3)​
[10.] Satan bound (Revelation 20:1–3)​
[11.] The earth in a battered condition from huge hailstones and a devastating earthquake (Revelation 16:18–21)​
[12.] The earth in total blackout and desolate, a “bottomless pit” (Jeremiah 4:23, 28)​
[13.] Satan bound and forced to stay on the earth (Revelation 20:1–3)​
[14.] The righteous in heaven participate in the judgment (Revelation 20:4)​
[15.] The wicked are all dead (Jeremiah 4:25; Isaiah 11:4)​
[16.] Third coming of Jesus with His saints (Zechariah 14:5).​
[17.] Holy city settles on the Mount of Olives, which becomes a great plain (Zechariah 14:4, 10).​
[18.] The Father, His angels, and all of the righteous come with Jesus (Revelation 21:1–3; Matthew 25:31; Zechariah 14:5).​
[19.] The wicked dead are raised; Satan is loosed (Revelation 20:5, 7).​
[20.] Satan deceives the entire world (Revelation 20:8).​
[21.] The wicked surround the holy city (Revelation 20:9).​
[22.] The wicked are destroyed by fire (Revelation 20:9).​
[23.] New heavens and earth created (Isaiah 65:17; 2 Peter 3:13; Revelation 21:1).​
[24.] God’s people enjoy eternity with God on the new earth (Revelation 21:2–4).​

QUESTION: SINCE THE “REIGN WITH CHRIST” LASTS FOR 1000 YEARS IN HEAVEN, WHEN DOES THE “REIGN UPON THE EARTH” TAKE PLACE?

The “reign upon the earth” comes after 1,000 years [Revelation 20:2,3,4,5,6,7], for the “saints” must be both resurrected and/or translated, glorified, and brought back to Heaven [John 14:1-4; 1 Thessalonians 4:17, etc] at the Second Advent and First Great Resurrection, to “reign” in Heaven, for 1,000 years [Revelation 20:4,5a,6] going over the record books of the lost [1 Corinthians 6:2,3; Psalms 149:1-9]:

[A.] The “thousand years” reign “in Heaven” [Psalms 50:5; Matthew 5:3,8,10,12, 6:20, 13:30, 24:31; Mark 10:21, 13:27; Luke 6:23, 18:22, 23:43; John 14:2-3, 17:24; Colossians 1:5; Hebrews 10:34; 1 Peter 1:4; Revelation 7:9, 14:3, 19:1; “Paradise”, Luke 23:43; 2 Corinthians 12:4; Revelation 2:7] with Christ Jesus [1 Thessalonians 4:16-17; Revelation 20:6] and​

[B.] The “reign on earth” [“made new”, not this sin polluted Earth; 2 Peter 3:13; Isaiah 65:17, 66:22; Revelation 21:1] that lasts “forever and ever” [Revelation 5:10; “meek inherit earth” [“made new”, not this sin polluted Earth], Psalms 37:9,11,34; Proverbs 11:31; Isaiah 25:8, 65:21; Daniel 7:27; Matthew 5:5; Revelation 5:10].​
 

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According to some religious leaders and theologians of Christendom, the whole Millennium thing is metaphorical.

I have heard several of them say that humanity is already under the millennium that Rev. 20 speaks of, and that they themselves are those "kings and priests" that are spoken of there. They also say that they have the authority to "bind" the Devil and demons and that is what their reign consists of. Is that a biblical teaching? ... or is it just a speculation that comes out of a purely carnal delusion of grandeur?

Some aspects of the Millennium that the Bible speaks of help to understand the truth:

1) before the Millennium begins, "the wild beast" and "the false prophet" MUST HAVE ALREADY been cast into the lake of fire, according to:

Rev. 20:10 And the Devil who was misleading them was hurled into the lake of fire and sulfur, where both the wild beast and the false prophet already were; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

2) As that Millennium is equivalent to the kingdom of Jesus on the whole earth, the anointed brothers of Jesus must already be in heaven ALONG WITH HIM to reign together, that is, the first resurrection HAS TO HAVE OCCURRED:

Rev. 20:6 Happy and holy is anyone having part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no authority, but they will be priests of God and of the Christ, and they will rule as kings with him for the 1,000 years.

3) Before the beginning of the Millennium the Devil and his demons MUST have been removed from the middle so as not to hinder that reign, that is why they have to be abyssed BEFORE that reign begins over all humanity (Rev. 20: 1-3 , 7,8).

Have any of these events, that the Bible predicts will pre-millenially occur, already happened?
 

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Paul said that "the saints will judge the world" in 1 Cor. 6:2. The Greek word we translate "world" in that text is κόσμος.
Now notice these other inspired words of Paul:

Heb. 2:5 For it is not to angels that he has subjected the inhabited earth to come, about which we are speaking.

Can you notice the relationship between this last text and the previous one?

BUT in Heb. 2:5 there is an interesting detail: The Greek word we translate "inhabited earth" in that text is NOT κόσμος. That Greek word here is οἰκουμένη.

When Paul says that the earth will be subject to the saints, and that they will govern and judge it, he is referring to the planet earth inhabited by human beings in the future. For this reason, after speaking of Jesus as an exalted human and a main part of the planet's rulership in the future (vv. 6-9), referring to his brothers as another part of that rulership, he goes on to say:

Heb. 2:10 For it was fitting that the one for whom and through whom all things exist, in bringing many sons to glory, should make the Chief Agent of their salvation perfect through sufferings. 11 For both the one who is sanctifying and those who are being sanctified all stem from one, and for this reason he is not ashamed to call them brothers, 12 as he says: “I will declare your name to my brothers; in the midst of the congregation I will praise you with song.” 13 And again: “I will put my trust in him.” And again: “Look! I and the young children, whom Jehovah gave me.”

This is not the first time that the inspired Scriptures predict the planetary rule by Jesus and his "holy" brothers. Read:

ABOUT Jesus, the main ruler of the kingdom of Earth:

Dan. 7:13 “I kept watching in the visions of the night, and look! with the clouds of the heavens, someone like a son of man was coming; and he gained access to the Ancient of Days, and they brought him up close before that One. 14 And to him there were given rulership, honor, and a kingdom, that the peoples, nations, and language groups should all serve him. His rulership is an everlasting rulership that will not pass away, and his kingdom will not be destroyed.

ABOUT "the Saints" the other part of that government:

Dan. 7:21 “I kept watching as that horn made war on the holy ones, and it was prevailing against them, 22 until the Ancient of Days came and judgment was rendered in favor of the holy ones of the Supreme One, and the appointed time arrived for the holy ones to take possession of the kingdom. (...)
27 “‘And the kingdom and the rulership and the grandeur of the kingdoms under all the heavens were given to the people who are the holy ones of the Supreme One. Their kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all rulerships will serve and obey them.’ 28 “This is the end of the matter. ...

SO: what do the Scriptures say? Will there be a government of God on the planet, or not?
 

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Did you realize that the fact that Jesus hands over the kingdom to his Father means that the Thousand Years will be over?

1 Cor. 3:23 (...) you belong to Christ; Christ, in turn, belongs to God.

Just visualize the events that the Scriptures describe for the future and you will see the whole picture:

1) Acts 17:31 Because he has set a day on which he purposes to judge the inhabited earth in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed, and he has provided a guarantee to all men by resurrecting him from the dead.”

2). Rev. 20:4 And I saw thrones, and those who sat on them were given authority to judge. (...) And they came to life and ruled as kings with the Christ for 1,000 years. 5 (...) This is the first resurrection. 6 Happy and holy is anyone having part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no authority, but they will be priests of God and of the Christ, and they will rule as kings with him for the 1,000 years.

3) 1 Cor. 15:28 But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.

4) Rev. 20:7 Now as soon as the 1,000 years have ended, Satan will be released from his prison, 8 and he will go out to mislead those nations in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Maʹgog, to gather them together for the war. The number of these is as the sand of the sea. 9 And they advanced over the whole earth and encircled the camp of the holy ones and the beloved city. But fire came down out of heaven and consumed them. 10 And the Devil who was misleading them was hurled into the lake of fire and sulfur, where both the wild beast and the false prophet already were; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

Some believers want to reject Revelation's prophecies about the future because they fail to see their relationship to the rest of the teachings in other Christian writings. However, the book of Revelation is an account of visions that Jesus received after he ascended (Rev. 5:1-10) and shared with John for Christians of later times. In them Jesus gave new details that confirm and broaden the understanding of his teachings and those of the Christians who by the end of the first century had already died. John wrote those visions that he received for the benefit of modern Christians, so that they would understand the events that would come in the future. They should be carefully studied... and not rejected as some do.

Believers should accept help from others who know the Scriptures best and can easily explain the main ideas that can be learned from the book of Revelation.
 
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