What I Expect In Heaven

[Webers_Home]

.
• 1Cor 13:12 . . Now we see things imperfectly as in a poor mirror, but then
we will see everything with perfect clarity. All that I know now is partial and
incomplete, but then I will know everything completely, just as God knows
me now.

Back then, mirrors were made of metal, and their surface finish wasn't
nearly as good as the ones now. People's faces were somewhat distorted
too, like those funny mirrors in carnivals. Plus, their reflection was like
looking at the world through a dirty window; they could can see themselves
alright, but not sharply.

For example; the first time I used the mirror in my bathroom when I got
home from cataract surgery, I was startled to see how much I had aged over
time without realizing it because now I could see all my wrinkles and
blemishes clearly whereas before surgery I couldn't. It was like the operation
had suddenly made me 15 years older.

For now the exhortation to "Know Thyself" is virtually impossible, but I think
most us prefer not to see the real person that we are in too much detail: at
least for now anyway.
_

 

[quietthinker]

What I Expect In Heaven
Gob stoppers, tears and voices which sing on pitch.

 

[Webers_Home]

.
Human intelligence is produced by a three-pound lump of flabby organic
tissue housed within our bony little skulls; and not even all three of those
pounds are utilized for cognitive processes-- in point of fact, something like
60% of the human brain's mass is fat.

The IQ of roughly 67% of the population falls between 85 and 115 while
2½% lies above 130 and another 2½% lies below 70. Apparently the
remaining 28% fall between 70 and 85.

A very bright magazine columnist called Marilyn vos Savant (a.k.a. Marilyn
Mach) has an IQ ranging between 180 and 228; depending on the testing
method and/or who evaluates it.

Point being; there are elements of the Christian religion that make no sense
at all; not even to the brightest minds. For one: all of Adam's posterity were
made sinners the very moment that he tasted the forbidden fruit as if they
were right there tasting it with him in real time. For another: one man's
crucifixion satisfied the justice of God for all the evil that humanity has
committed in the past, all that humanity is now committing, and all evil yet
to be committed in the future-- the totality of humanity's evil from first to
last: all of it.

The IQ of the brain I have now cannot even begin to comprehend the logic
of those two elements. However, the Bible predicts that Jesus' followers are
on track to be given a body patterned after the supernatural body that he
was given some time after his resurrection. Well; I anticipate obtaining an
improved IQ with that body so's I can comprehend some, and maybe even
all, of Christianity's remarkable mysteries.
_

 

[Webers_Home]

.
According to Luke 16:19-31 it was possible at one time to communicate with
one's family should they have perchance ended up on the wrong side of
things.

Well; I sincerely hope that's still permitted because there are certain of my
loved ones and BFFs with whom I would very much like to spend some time
with before they are exiled forever in the lake of brimstone depicted by Rev
20:11-15.
_

 

[quietthinker]

.
According to Luke 16:19-31 it was possible at one time to communicate with
one's family should they have perchance ended up on the wrong side of
things.

Well; I sincerely hope that's still permitted because there are certain of my
loved ones and BFFs with whom I would very much like to spend some time
with before they are exiled forever in the lake of brimstone depicted by Rev
20:11-15.
_

You are encouraged to read the story in Luke 16:19-31 again and note the point of Jesus makes at its conclusion in vs 31.
To make this story literal is to miss Jesus' point totally.

 

[Webers_Home]

.
Only people with Heaven locked in have reason to expect anything there;
everyone else is crossing their fingers for the best while in the back of their
minds dreading the worst. And it's likely many haven't given Heaven much
thought seeing as how in their minds even just getting there is a pipe
dream, especially since the Bible says the majority passing on to the other
side haven't been making the cut.

• Luke 13:22-24 . . And he went through the cities and villages, teaching,
and journeying toward Jerusalem. Then said one unto him, master, are there
few that be saved? And he said unto them: Strive to enter in at the strait
gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.

• Matt 7:13-14 . . Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and
broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But
small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find
it.

• Matt 22:14 . . For many are called, but few are chosen.
_

 

[quietthinker]

.
Only people with Heaven locked in have reason to expect anything there;
everyone else is crossing their fingers for the best while in the back of their
minds dreading the worst. And it's likely many haven't given Heaven much
thought seeing as how in their minds even just getting there is a pipe
dream, especially since the Bible says the majority passing on to the other
side haven't been making the cut.

• Luke 13:22-24 . . And he went through the cities and villages, teaching,
and journeying toward Jerusalem. Then said one unto him, master, are there
few that be saved? And he said unto them: Strive to enter in at the strait
gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.

• Matt 7:13-14 . . Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and
broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But
small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find
it.

• Matt 22:14 . . For many are called, but few are chosen.
_

It's a 'pipe dream' because of little faith.....they haven't heard or understood the good news....or saddest of all, they don't want to understand it.

 

[Webers_Home]

.
In the story told at Luke 16:19-31, a beggar was transported by angels to a
pleasant afterlife location. I'm a little curious why the Bible doesn't say how
Christians are transported to where they're going when they die. It's
possible that the beggar's transportation is the way it's always been, and to
this day still is.

Well; I have a question about that because when people pass away, they
separate from the material elements of their existence, i.e. the solid parts.
What is there for the angels to take hold of when we're ghosts?

I'm not sure that I won't be frightened out of my wits coming to on the other
side with celestial beings standing around watching me take my last breath.
The first words out of their mouths had better be "Fear not" or I'm liable to
freak out like a bi-polar gorilla.
_

 

[quietthinker]

.
In the story told at Luke 16:19-31, a beggar was transported by angels to a
pleasant afterlife location. I'm a little curious why the Bible doesn't say how
Christians are transported to where they're going when they die. It's
possible that the beggar's transportation is the way it's always been, and to
this day still is.

Well; I have a question about that because when people pass away, they
separate from the material elements of their existence, i.e. the solid parts.
What is there for the angels to take hold of when we're ghosts?

I'm not sure that I won't be frightened out of my wits coming to on the other
side with celestial beings standing around watching me take my last breath.
The first words out of their mouths had better be "Fear not" or I'm liable to
freak out like a bi-polar gorilla.
_

It's a story for the purpose of making a point. The point is what matters and why the story was crafted. Don't miss the point by majoring on the story as if it's a theology on the state of the dead.

here's an example....you no doubt know the story of 'The boy who cried wolf'? I hope you do. If you're unfamiliar with it do a quick search online, I'm sure you'll find it.
The point of the story is to not feed people a lie because they won't believe you when you tell the truth......I'll reiterate, that's its point. Now I could make up a whole raft of issues from the story itself yet totally miss the point......get it?

 

[Webers_Home]

.

It's a story for the purpose of making a point. The point is what matters and
why the story was crafted. Don't miss the point by majoring on the story as
if it's a theology on the state of the dead.

I'm not listening to you. You're a bad influence.
_

 

[quietthinker]

.


I'm not listening to you. You're a bad influence.
_

sorry to hear that W_H. You might note though that the religious drew the same conclusion about Jesus.

 

[Webers_Home]

.
You might note that Jesus gave as good as he got; and when he spoke
out with a number of his own comments; some were not very nice.

He also had this to say:

• John 10:3-5 . . He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. When
he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep
follow him because they know his voice. But they will never follow a
stranger; in fact, they will away from him because they do not recognize
a stranger's voice.

You are a stranger to me. Off you go to the abyss on Ignore.
_

 

[quietthinker]

s

.
You might note that Jesus gave as good as he got; and when he spoke
out with a number of his own comments; some were not very nice.

He also had this to say:

• John 10:3-5 . . He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. When
he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep
follow him because they know his voice. But they will never follow a
stranger; in fact, they will away from him because they do not recognize
a stranger's voice.

You are a stranger to me. Off you go to the abyss on Ignore.
_

Sounds like you're a self-appointed judge and jury W_H.....what can I say?
In any case, have a good day.

 

[Webers_Home]

.
• John 14:2 . . In my Father's house are many private rooms . . I go to
prepare a place for you.

The nicer hotels usually decorate rooms with flowers and even leave some
candy mints on pillows. Well; a Christian I met some years ago said he
expects his cat to be waiting for him in the room Jesus is setting up.

My two favorite pets were the Collie I had as a boy, and the Guinea pig I had
as a grown up. I'd be overjoyed beyond words if they were there waiting for
my arrival. That would be a nice touch.

I heard of a little girl once who said she knew her mommy loved her because
when called in for lunch, there on the plate alongside a sandwich would
always be one of her favorite cookies.

When my son was in elementary school, I got in the habit of making Fridays
special for him by setting up a TV dinner table by the door with either a toy,
a game, or a goody placed there to make him glad to be coming home.
Honestly; I expect no less from Jesus because I am going to need a lot of
encouragement and consolation while getting settled in new surroundings.
_

 

[Ziggy]

My right eye has been weak from birth so I've gone through life with only one and a half eyes..
Opticians have since told me that the wonky one could have been easily corrected from an early age, but I suppose I somehow slipped through the net.
I remember the school nurse gave me a letter to take home to my parents saying I needed glasses, but I think told them I didn't want glasses because my heroes Davy Crockett and Flash Gordon didn't wear them, so I didn't want any either..
I eventually bought myself a pair when I was about 18 and they helped a bit.

I was born with the optic nerve of my right eye not fully attached to my eye.
I grew up trying to wear a patch but it never helped. The doctor said it was a lazy eye and wearing a patch would help strengthen it.
About 10 years ago I want to a specialist. They got all these new fancy machines. He was able to look right into my eye and see the nerve was not connected.
I asked if there was any kind of laser surgery or something that could repair it. He said that technology hadn't come that far yet.
So I been living with one really good eye (was until a few years ago, having trouble seeing anything now)
and the other is like looking out 1/2 a window and part of it is so shadowed I can't see through it.

hugs

 

[Dropship]

..A very bright magazine columnist called Marilyn vos Savant (a.k.a. Marilyn
Mach) has an IQ ranging between 180 and 228; depending on the testing
method and/or who evaluates it..

Yes, she stumped many maths experts (and me of course) with her famous "3 Doors" riddle..
Look, a goat is behind door 3.
There's either a quiz show prize or another goat behind doors 1 or 2.
So suppose you choose door 1 in the hope the prize is behind it, and the show host says "Would you like to change your mind and choose door 2?"

On the face of it, there seems to be a 50-50 chance that the prize is behind door 1 or 2, so there'd be no reason to change your mind.
But amazingly Marilyn said you should ALWAYS change your mind and plump for door 2 because there's a better chance the prize is behind it!



Nobody believed her at first until she explained the maths behind it, but even now I can't understand it..
Explanation- The Time Everyone “Corrected” the World’s Smartest Woman - Priceonomics

 

[quietthinker]

.
• John 14:2 . . In my Father's house are many private rooms . . I go to
prepare a place for you.

The nicer hotels usually decorate rooms with flowers and even leave some
candy mints on pillows. Well; a Christian I met some years ago said he
expects his cat to be waiting for him in the room Jesus is setting up.

My two favorite pets were the Collie I had as a boy, and the Guinea pig I had
as a grown up. I'd be overjoyed beyond words if they were there waiting for
my arrival. That would be a nice touch.

I heard of a little girl once who said she knew her mommy loved her because
when called in for lunch, there on the plate alongside a sandwich would
always be one of her favorite cookies.

When my son was in elementary school, I got in the habit of making Fridays
special for him by setting up a TV dinner table by the door with either a toy,
a game, or a goody placed there to make him glad to be coming home.
Honestly; I expect no less from Jesus because I am going to need a lot of
encouragement and consolation while getting settled in new surroundings.
_

Hi W_H, this is 'the stranger' (oh, that's right, you've blocked me; cast me into the abyss)...oh well, seeing we can communicate from that place.....according to you,
do you really conclude that Jesus was referring to 'private rooms" in your quote above?
orrrr.....what sort of a place is he preparing?

 

[Webers_Home]

.
• Gen 11:1 . . Everyone on earth had the same language and the same
words.

The Hebrew word for "language" is from saphah (saw-faw') which means:
the lip. The one for "words" is from dabar (daw-baw') which means: a word
(as spoken or written)

Spoken languages are a combination of words and lips; viz: vocabulary and
pronunciation, i.e. accent and inflection. It's one thing to know the words of
a language, but it is quite another to speak them with the correct
pronunciation. In that day, everyone used the same words and spoke them
alike

• Gen 11:6-9 . . and The Lord said: If, as one people with one language for
all, this is how they have begun to act, then nothing that they may propose
to do will be out of their reach. Let us, then, go down and confound their
speech there, so that they shall not understand one another's speech.

. . .Thus The Lord scattered them from there over the face of the whole
earth; and they stopped building the city. That is why it was called Babel,
because there the Lord confounded the speech of the whole earth; and from
there the Lord scattered them over the face of the whole earth.

That event is handy for showing that languages aren't indelible. In other
words; it's possible that folks in Heaven have returned to the point where
everyone is speaking the same language and the same words; which would
go a long ways towards solidifying unity.
_

 

[Hidden In Him]

Internet buzz typically focuses mostly upon how to get to Heaven rather
what there is to do there.

Well; personally I have no interest in the celestial sphere of the kingdom of
Heaven. To me, it's a foreign country. I want to stay right here on earth
during Messiah's 1,000 year administration and visit all the places to which I
have never gone, do all the things I've never done, and see all the things
I've never seen.

I don't care if I reign with Christ for a thousand years or have to spend the millennium in Heaven first, but I want the following kind of life. This guy is rich enough to be living it now, but the nice thing about when God gives it is that there won't be anymore death, and nothing to take the ones I love away from me. (3:49+)

 

[quietthinker]

.
• 1Cor 13:12 . . Now we see things imperfectly as in a poor mirror, but then
we will see everything with perfect clarity. All that I know now is partial and
incomplete, but then I will know everything completely, just as God knows
me now.

Back then, mirrors were made of metal, and their surface finish wasn't
nearly as good as the ones now. People's faces were somewhat distorted
too, like those funny mirrors in carnivals. Plus, their reflection was like
looking at the world through a dirty window; they could can see themselves
alright, but not sharply.

For example; the first time I used the mirror in my bathroom when I got
home from cataract surgery, I was startled to see how much I had aged over
time without realizing it because now I could see all my wrinkles and
blemishes clearly whereas before surgery I couldn't. It was like the operation
had suddenly made me 15 years older.

For now the exhortation to "Know Thyself" is virtually impossible, but I think
most us prefer not to see the real person that we are in too much detail: at
least for now anyway.
_

Conversation only has value when preaching is not present.
Preaching at reveals that which meaningful conversation doesn't......namely, it tells the other person how right one is. It advertises self importance and assumes a hierarchy.