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out of interest Matthias; you no doubt know punctuation to the scripture was added by later translators. Would you consider a comma after the word 'today'?“I tell you today you will be with me in paradise.” - Jesus of Nazareth
out of interest Matthias; you no doubt know punctuation to the scripture was added by later translators. Would you consider a comma after the word 'today'?
It changes the way that quote of Jesus is understoodYes. And yes I would.
It changes the way that quote of Jesus is understood
It certainly does.
“I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.”
Jesus didn’t go to paradise on the day that he died. Neither did the thief.
Sure Jesus and the malefactor went to Paradise, on THAT day.
Paradise IS where the Tree of Life is.
Who Eats of the Tree of Life maintains their soul Life.
The Tree of Life.....was in the Garden of Eden.....Paradise.
The Tree of Life.....was in the side of Hell with saved souls...Paradise.
The Tree of Life.....IS in Heaven with saved souls....Paradise.
The Tree of Life.....SHALL BE ON the new Earth....Paradise.
* In the Garden, Adam didn’t eat of that Tree...his soul had to be Saved
* In Hell saved souls were kept, UNTIL JESUS went there AND LEFT.
* Saved souls could not rise up to Heaven UNTIL Jesus went First.
1 Col 1:
[17] And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
Glory to God,
Taken
Jesus was in the tomb for three days and three nights. The thief is still in his grave.
What I Expect In Heaven
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Jesus came to earth.
Jesus’ body was killed on earth.
Jesus’ soul departed his body.
Jesus’ soul went to (comfort/Paradise side) of hell.
Jesus’ body was buried in (a Priests) cave.
Jesus’ soul returned to His body.
Jesus’ body rose up.
The thief was born on earth.
The thief was hung next to Jesus.
The thief confessed to Jesus innocence and belief in Jesus.
Upon the thief’s death, his soul was saved.
Once his soul was saved & his body dead;
The thief’s soul departed his body.
The thief’s soul went to (comfort/Paradise side) of hell.
The thief’s soul was with Jesus in Paradise.
Presumably the thief’s body was buried.
Once Jesus’ soul (and body) returned to Heaven;
(The Tree of Life, sent to Heaven, Where the Tree of Life is, is Paradise. All saved souls in (comfort/Paradise side) of hell, WENT to heaven).
The thief’s soul also Went to heaven.
The thief’s soul in heaven, (Paradise) waits for the Lord to descend to clouds.
The thief’s body shall rise from it’s grave (glorified).
The thief’s (saved) soul shall return it’s glorified body.
The thief’s saved soul, quickened spirit, glorified body, shall
Meet the Lord in the air (above the earth), called Rapture; Before Gods Tribulation begins coming down from Heaven.
Yes, the thief’s body is presently in it’s grave.
Yes, the thief’s saved soul is in Heaven (Paradise).
Glory to God,
Taken
'....I have not yet ascended to my Father' Jesus told Mary on Sunday morning. John 20:17Sure Jesus and the malefactor went to Paradise, on THAT day.
Paradise IS where the Tree of Life is.
Who Eats of the Tree of Life maintains their soul Life.
The Tree of Life.....was in the Garden of Eden.....Paradise.
The Tree of Life.....was in the side of Hell with saved souls...Paradise.
The Tree of Life.....IS in Heaven with saved souls....Paradise.
The Tree of Life.....SHALL BE ON the new Earth....Paradise.
* In the Garden, Adam didn’t eat of that Tree...his soul had to be Saved
* In Hell saved souls were kept, UNTIL JESUS went there AND LEFT.
* Saved souls could not rise up to Heaven UNTIL Jesus went First.
1 Col 1:
[17] And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
Glory to God,
Taken
That’s the popular view. I hold the primitive Christian view.
'....I have not yet ascended to my Father' Jesus told Mary on Sunday morning. John 20:17
Okay. Care to share with me a brief of what “a primitive Christian view”
Means?
Thanks Matthias.
God Bless,
Taken