What Is "Predestination"? How Does It Shape Your Daily Life?

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Eternally Grateful

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1 Peter 1:18-25 KJV
18) Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
19) But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
20) Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,
21) Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.
22) Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
23) Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
24) For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:
25) But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.

Were it not possible that we could sin, having been born again of incorruptible seed, how is it that Peter is giving this fact as a foundation for his admonition that we love one another with a pure heart fervently? Failure to do so is sin, therefore why the admonition?

There are other places also that clearly admonish us to righteous and holy living because we have been reborn. There is more here in this chapter,

1 Peter 1:13-18 KJV
13) Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
14) As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:
15) But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;
16) Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.
17) And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear:
18) Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;

You will be judged . . . pass your time here in fear . . . knowing you weren't redeemed with corruptible . . . but incorruptible . . .

I don't take this lightly, myself.

Much love!
Maybe you can convince her.
 
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Nope it does not’’If it does. Then John is a liar.

being born again if incoruptable seed means my salvation is secure in christ. Because I was saved eternally by that seed

it does not mean I will never again sin.
No it doesn’t.

What is the seed then?

By which we are are Born Again of?

What was Born Again in us?
 

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Maybe you can convince her.
Convince me...you are the one that needs to open up their eyes and ears to hear God’s words word.

Jesus was the seed of God..or do you deny that also?

What we’re been Born Again of?

Incorruptible seed, is the seed of God..His Living word, the Holy Spirit.
 

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No it doesn’t.

What is the seed then?

By which we are are Born Again of?

What was Born Again in us?
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John said if we claim to be without sin we decieve ourselves

Your interpretation of what the seed or what born again means does not refute these words of John, you either believe him or you do not

Not only this, James tells us to confess our sins to one another.

And john also says when we do sin, to confess them to God

Kind of hard to do if we no longer sin.
 
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Convince me...you are the one that needs to open up their eyes and ears to hear God’s words word.

Jesus was the seed of God..or do you deny that also?

What we’re been Born Again of?

Incorruptible seed, is the seed of God..His Living word, the Holy Spirit.
Good God,

Please tell me where I said otherwise?
Born again does not mean you do not sin..

Marks took yo to the passage, and showed you what is meant.

Why can;t you hear anyone except those who agree with you?
 

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lol

John said if we claim to be without sin we decieve ourselves

Your interpretation of what the seed or what born again means does not refute these words of Jown, you either believe him or you do not

James tells us to confess our sins to one another.



Kind of hard to do if we no longer sin.
I believe the Living word of God..A Born Again does not continue to sin because they have been Born Again of imperishable seed..that seed is the Holy Spirit.
 

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Good God,

Please tell me where I said otherwise?
Born again does not mean you do not sin..

Marks took yo to the passage, and showed you what is meant.

Why can;t you hear anyone except those who agree with you?
I asked you what you were Born Again of?

I don’t follow marks I follow God’s word not your word or anyone else’s

What is the seed that we were Born Again of?

Why can’t you answer biblical questions?
 

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I believe the Living word of God..A Born Again does not continue to sin because they have been Born Again of imperishable seed..that seed is the Holy Spirit.
Well your reading an English translation.

You better interpret that translation with the rest of the word.

Yes, I AM BORN AGAIN with imperishable seed

NO i will not continue in habitual sin (the literal translation of that passage) Because I have been born of God.
 
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Well your reading an English translation.

You better interpret that translation with the rest of the word.

Yes, I AM BORN AGAIN with imperishable seed

NO i will not continue in habitual sin (the literal translation of that passage) Because I have been born of God.
No..you were not Born Again “ with” imperishable seed..oh my word..you were Born Again “ OF” imperishable seed?..you can’t even pronounce scripture properly.
 

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I asked you what you were Born Again of?

I don’t follow marks I follow God’s word not your word or anyone else’s

What is the seed that we were Born Again of?

Why can’t you answer biblical questions?
do you not read anything I write?

How long have you known me, and Known that the seed is Christ and his blood. As given by the Holy Spirit.

Stop making this all about you!

You do not listen to anyone who does not agree with your view. it’s not just marks. it’s anyone, you have been accused of this for as long as I have known you. I used to stick up for you. But I have come to learn what others saw along time ago
 

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do you not read anything I write?

How long have you known me, and Known that the seed is Christ and his blood. As given by the Holy Spirit.

Stop making this all about you!

You do not listen to anyone who does not agree with your view. it’s not just marks. it’s anyone, you have been accused of this for as long as I have known you. I used to stick up for you. But I have come to learn what others saw along time ago
The seed is the Holy Spirit...oh my word, you never said that in the beginning..

The problem with you is...you get very personal when I challenge you with biblical questions...

And still they go unanswered?

The blood of Jesus is not his seed..Jesus is the seed as scripture says.

Now you have changed your tune by now saying that the Holy Spirit is Gods seed.

So, I ask again, if you are Born Again of imperishable seed.how come you still believe you sin?
 

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I just stated a fact. You tried to show her. As I did.

Sorry if that offended you
You can’t show me anything as you yourself are in total confusion over Gods word...you are all over the place with Gods word.

One minute you ask what the seed is, then you disagree that Gods seed is the Holy Spirit..now you are saying that the seed is the Holy Spirit...
 

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Well your reading an English translation.

You better interpret that translation with the rest of the word.

Yes, I AM BORN AGAIN with imperishable seed

NO i will not continue in habitual sin (the literal translation of that passage) Because I have been born of God.
What has an English translation got to do with anything...I was Born Again having never read a Bible?
 

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It's not one sin.

It's your very nature to stand opposed to God, to literally hate what God loves, and to love the things God hates.

Your entire nature is completely corrupted.

When you are saved you nature itself is turned back to God...
How many sins does it take to deserve eternal torture?
 

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Not sure how that relates to God knowing me before I was born.

But no. God can not and will not..

We must chose to say yes (believe) or continue in unbelief
You mentioned God being omniscient, didn't you, as if he can do anything? I'm wondering if omniscience has limits. Someone once asked, "Can God make a rock so heavy that he can't lift it?"
 

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Did Adam's foolish decision cause him Spiritual death?

Do you understand what even the smallest of all sins does to the character of God?
There's a difference between Spiritual death and eternal torture, I believe.

I believe it hurts God to see us sin. I don't think we can fault him for sins people commit, though. He gives us a free will, and we sin. The alternative is not to give us a free will. Would that work?
 

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So, I ask again, if you are Born Again of imperishable seed.how come you still believe you sin?
1. Because I am not a pharisee
2. I believe Gods word
3. I know that I have not arrived, I continue to run the race, if Paul did not make it. i would not be foolish enough to think I have.

I will be sinless hen i am glorified.. Until then I am being sanctified by God