What Is "Predestination"? How Does It Shape Your Daily Life?

[Eternally Grateful]

He cannot touch my heart, I am Born Again of imperishable seed.

He can;t take your salvation your right

But if you think he can not touch you heart and get you to believe things which are not true. Your in serious danger

He can drive my mind crazy...do you actually understand that the Holy Spirit indwells our heart/ spirit.

How else would we know we have been Born Of The Spirit?

lol.. If you understood what born of the spirit meant, maybe we could have common ground. But as long as you think it is something that is not true.. We can not come to any agreement

 

[Eternally Grateful]

A Born Again does not continue to sin because they have been Born Again of imperishable seed.

Which means what?

It means they can not live in sin, like they did before they were saved.

It DOES NOT mean they no longer sin

 

[Ritajanice]

Yep

And a follower of Christ is exactly what the word means

A Born Again is exactly as Gods word says it is...show me where God says we follow him....we are led by the Spirit...don’t add your words to scripture.

 

[Ritajanice]

He can;t take your salvation your right

But if you think he can not touch you heart and get you to believe things which are not true. Your in serious danger.

He cannot touch my heart..do you actually know what Born Of The Spirit means..I think not.

And your scaremongering is embarrassing..I’m embarrassed for you.

lol.. If you understood what born of the spirit meant, maybe we could have common ground. But as long as you think it is something that is not true.. We can not come to any agreement

Unfortunately I believe it is you who has no understanding of what it means to be Born Again of imperishable seed?

 

[Ritajanice]

It means they can not live in sin, like they did before they were saved.

It DOES NOT mean they no longer sin

Imperishable seed means they can no longer live in sin.wrong.

The imperishable seed that we are Born Again with, is the Holy Spirit, that is Gods Living word, his seed, that lives in the heart of his child...liveth and abideth forever...we also received Gods gift of Faith a manifestation of the Spirit...which grows ,matures and flourishes, because it was God given...God given faith is Alive and Active, it’s not dead.

No wonder you still keep thinking you sin..you have no spiritual knowledge or understanding of what Born Again of imperishable seed is...imo.

So, we will never agree on that..

Spirit gives birth to spirit?

Flesh gives birth to flesh?

◄ 1 Peter 1 ►

Berean Standard Bible Par ▾ A Greeting from Peter (2 Peter 1:1–2) 1Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To the elect who are exiles of the Dispersion throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, chosena 2according to the foreknowledge of God the Father and sanctified by the Spirit for obedience to Jesus Christ and sprinkling by His blood: Grace and peace be yours in abundance. A Living Hope 3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! By His great mercy He has given us new birthb into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4and into an inheritance that is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, reserved in heaven for you, 5who through faith are shielded by God’s power for the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time. 6In this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while you may have had to suffer grief in various trials 7so that the proven character of your faith—more precious than gold, which perishes even though refined by fire—may result in praise, glory, and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ. 8Though you have not seen Him, you love Him; and though you do not see Him now, you believe in Him and rejoice with an inexpressible and glorious joy, 9now that you are receiving the goal of your faith, the salvation of your souls. 10Concerning this salvation, the prophets who foretold the grace to come to you searched and investigated carefully, 11trying to determine the time and setting to which the Spirit of Christ in them was pointing when He predicted the sufferings of Christ and the glories to follow. 12It was revealed to them that they were not serving themselves, but you, when they foretold the things now announced by those who preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven. Even angels long to look into these things. A Call to Holiness (Hebrews 12:14–17) 13Therefore prepare your minds for action.c Be sober-minded. Set your hope fully on the grace to be given you at the revelation of Jesus Christ. 14As obedient children, do not conform to the passions of your former ignorance. 15But just as He who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do, 16for it is written: “Be holy, because I am holy.”d 17Since you call on a Father who judges each one’s work impartially, conduct yourselves in reverent fear during your stay as foreigners. 18For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life you inherited from your forefathers, 19but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or spot. 20He was known before the foundation of the world, but was revealed in the last times for your sake. 21Through Him you believe in God, who raised Him from the dead and glorified Him; and so your faith and hope are in God. The Enduring Word (Isaiah 40:6–8) 22Since you have purified your souls by obedience to the truth so that you have a genuine love for your brothers, love one another deeply, from a pure heart.e 23For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God. 24For, “All flesh is like grass, and all its glory like the flowers of the field; the grass withers and the flowers fall, 25but the word of the Lord stands forever.”f And this is the word that was proclaimed to you.

 

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The imperishable seed that we are Born Again with, is the Holy Spirit, that is Gods Living word, his seed, that lives in the heart of his child...liveth and abideth forever...we also received Gods gift of Faith a manifestation of the Spirit...which grows ,matures and flourishes, because it was God given...God given faith is Alive and Active, it’s not dead.

I think both of these passages are very important to internalize,

1 Peter 1:18-25 KJV
18) Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
19) But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
20) Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,
21) Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.
22) Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
23) Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
24) For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:
25) But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.

And,

1 Peter 1:3-5 KJV
3) Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
4) To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
5) Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

The everlasting incorruptible word - rhema - of God, the seed by which we are born again, ever remains, and is the keeping power of God in us, unto salvation. Sealed by the Spirit.

Much love!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

A Born Again is exactly as Gods word says it is...show me where God says we follow him....we are led by the Spirit...don’t add your words to scripture.

SMH

again ask. Do you read scripture? or are you just here to puff yourself up?

John 10:4
And when he brings out his own sheep, he goes before them; and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice

John 12:26
If anyone serves Me, let him followMe; and where I am, there My servant will be also. If anyone serves Me, himMy Father will honor

Luke 9:23
Then He said to them all, “If anyone desires to come after Me, let himdeny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow Me

 

[Eternally Grateful]

He cannot touch my heart..do you actually know what Born Of The Spirit means..I think not.

And your scaremongering is embarrassing..I’m embarrassed for you.

Don;t be, I am not in danger of being decieved by the devil. I am doing what God said and watching out..

Unfortunately I believe it is you who has no understanding of what it means to be Born Again of imperishable seed?

Well whatever.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Imperishable seed means they can no longer live in sin.wrong.

The imperishable seed that we are Born Again with, is the Holy Spirit, that is Gods Living word, his seed, that lives in the heart of his child...liveth and abideth forever...we also received Gods gift of Faith a manifestation of the Spirit...which grows ,matures and flourishes, because it was God given...God given faith is Alive and Active, it’s not dead.

No wonder you still keep thinking you sin..you have no spiritual knowledge or understanding of what Born Again of imperishable seed is...imo.

So, we will never agree on that..

Spirit gives birth to spirit?

Flesh gives birth to flesh?

Ok it gets worse..

Again, Study the word.. if you claim you are without sin (right here and right now) you are decieved.

Those are johns words not mine..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I think both of these passages are very important to internalize,

1 Peter 1:18-25 KJV
18) Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
19) But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
20) Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,
21) Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.
22) Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
23) Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
24) For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:
25) But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.

And,

1 Peter 1:3-5 KJV
3) Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
4) To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
5) Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

The everlasting incorruptible word - rhema - of God, the seed by which we are born again, ever remains, and is the keeping power of God in us, unto salvation. Sealed by the Spirit.

Much love!

Yes

Biut that does not mean we will never sin again,

 

[Ritajanice]

Ok it gets worse..

Again, Study the word.. if you claim you are without sin (right here and right now) you are decieved.

Those are johns words not mine..

You are the one that is deceived..and still no answer to my biblical questions.

Thank God I stopped listening to you a while back.no wonder i was always confused..Praise God I’m out of that confusion now.

 

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Yes

Biut that does not mean we will never sin again,

Are you thinking that's what I was saying?

Much love!

 

[Ritajanice]

SMH

again ask. Do you read scripture? or are you just here to puff yourself up?

John 10:4
And when he brings out his own sheep, he goes before them; and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice

John 12:26
If anyone serves Me, let him followMe; and where I am, there My servant will be also. If anyone serves Me, himMy Father will honor

Luke 9:23
Then He said to them all, “If anyone desires to come after Me, let himdeny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow Me

How would you know how to follow Jesus?

If you are one of his sheep?

How would you recognise his voice?

 

[Ritajanice]

Yes

Biut that does not mean we will never sin again,

Yes it does...because we have Been Born Again Of incorruptible seed...which you have been deceived from understanding...

 

[Ritajanice]

Ok it gets worse..

Again, Study the word.. if you claim you are without sin (right here and right now) you are decieved.

Those are johns words not mine..

As is Gods word...A Born Again does not continue to sin because they have been Born Again of incorruptible seed...Praise God for that heart revelation.

You believe you still sin, because imo you don’t understand what imperishable/ incorruptible seed is.

You don’t know it’s the Holy Spirit, the seed of God...what else would seed mean?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You are the one that is deceived..and still no answer to my biblical questions.

Maam, I have answered every question you have ever asked

Again, your pride runs deep

Thank God I stopped listening to you a while back.no wonder i was always confused..Praise God I’m out of that confusion now.

I could care less if you listen to me. Listen To God..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Are you thinking that's what I was saying?

Much love!

no, @Ritajanice is saying this

 

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Yes it does...because we have Been Born Again Of incorruptible seed...which you have been deceived from understanding...

1 Peter 1:18-25 KJV
18) Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
19) But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
20) Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,
21) Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.
22) Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
23) Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
24) For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:
25) But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.

Were it not possible that we could sin, having been born again of incorruptible seed, how is it that Peter is giving this fact as a foundation for his admonition that we love one another with a pure heart fervently? Failure to do so is sin, therefore why the admonition?

There are other places also that clearly admonish us to righteous and holy living because we have been reborn. There is more here in this chapter,

1 Peter 1:13-18 KJV
13) Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
14) As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:
15) But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;
16) Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.
17) And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear:
18) Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;

You will be judged . . . pass your time here in fear . . . knowing you weren't redeemed with corruptible . . . but incorruptible . . .

I don't take this lightly, myself.

Much love!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

How would you know how to follow Jesus?

If you are one of his sheep?

How would you recognise his voice?

Did God say we MAY follow him or we will

You said the word does not say we follow him, I proved you in error. Will you confess this time or continue to deny?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Yes it does...because we have Been Born Again Of incorruptible seed...which you have been deceived from understanding...

Nope it does not’’If it does. Then John is a liar.

being born again if incoruptable seed means my salvation is secure in christ. Because I was saved eternally by that seed

it does not mean I will never again sin.