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What is the new Jerusalem constructed out of

Discussion in 'Eschatology & Prophecy Forum' started by CoreIssue, May 11, 2019.

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    now think on what "Pearl" stands for, if you will
     
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    @amadeus, note i ruined the first occurrence of the Hebrew below though

    הל

    The verb הלם (halam) means to hammer or smite. It occurs less than a dozen times: of striking an anvil (Isaiah 41:7) or destroying carved works (Psalm 74:6) or uppity generals (Judges 5:26), or clusters of vines (Isaiah 16:8). It's used to describe a righteous person correcting someone (Psalm 141:5) or the hammering of horses' hoofs (Judges 5:22), and once quite literally getting hammered from wine (Isaiah 28:1).

    This verb's derivations are:

    • The feminine noun הלמות (halmut), meaning hammer or mallet (Judges 5:26 only).
    • The feminine noun יהלם (yahalom), denoting some kind of precious gem. We don't know exactly which gem this word denotes (jasper has been proposed but that's just a guess). All we know it that it was known as smasher, or it will hammer (or it will require hammering, possibly because it's so hard). This stone is mentioned three times, twice in reference to the high priest's breast plate (Exodus 28:18 and 39:11) and once in reference to the king of Tyre's covering (Ezekiel 28:13).
    • The feminine plural noun מהלמות (mahalumot), meaning strokes or blows. It occurs twice, both times referring to blows exchanged between humans (Proverbs 18:6, 19:29).

      5608. saphar




      Strong's Concordance
      saphar: to count, recount, relate
      Original Word: סָפַר
      Part of Speech: verb; noun masculine
      Transliteration: saphar
      Phonetic Spelling: (saw-far')
      Definition: to count, recount, relate
      NAS Exhaustive Concordance
      Word Origin
      denominative verb from sepher
      Definition
      to count, recount, relate

    • sepher: a missive, document, writing, book
      Original Word: סֵפֶר
      Part of Speech: noun masculine; feminine; noun feminine
      Transliteration: sepher
      Phonetic Spelling: (say'-fer)

    • The amazing name Sepharvaim: meaning and etymology
     
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    Ok then, why do you think that is?
    (not "will be" at all btw, see below)
     
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    (we heard You coming and we knew we were naked, so we hid) i bet!
    ha so who needs walls?

    12The city had a massive high wall, ...
    18The building material of its wall was jasper,

    "was" as in "what i saw was"
     
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    Word
     
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    14The city wall had 12 foundations, and the 12 names of the Lamb's 12 apostles were on the foundations

    to differentiate between the other apostles, otherwise makes no sense, right literalists?
    Chalcedony
    Strong's Greek: 5475. χαλκός (chalkos) -- copper or bronze
    Strong's Greek: 1491. εἶδος (eidos) -- visible form, shape, appearance, kind
    mostly crap unfortunately, "persons" in God, etc, but enough to get started i guess
    "The visible form of bronze" is maybe pertinent, but as "visible" as the walls are, surely
     
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    Maybe no one here even cares about any of this?

    Bc no matter how literal ist you might be, finding the Gate = entry i guess, doesn't matter if you're a Mithraist, Atheist, Samaritan, God does not care what you call yourself ok, prolly even a Christian or two make it i guess. Hmm, prolly 4 huh, "us four..." lol

    and look I'm being hammy for effect, ok, but the kingdom really is akin to tripping, peaking maybe, although imo the feeling is more like free fall, Bc the feeling in the head is clearer than tripping, or drunk at 9 am, at least i think? plus the emo level and um activity level? motion level? seems different, to me anyway, very limited experience of course but those ppl just seem to get a lot stiller. Even when they have occasion to move quickly? Ever seen this?
     
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    12 Apostles too right? What Christian knows which foundation goes with which Apostle? Which Apostle do you take after? Etc
     
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    Heal documentary | A film about the power of the mind
     
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    they are after all the "gates" to the city, right? The way in iow?
     
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    Anyone ever find themselves wondering why in the world that "City" would even need gates.... let alone, twelve of them? (Totally inconvenient, since they are supposedly spaced about 460 miles apart.)
     
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    and the gates are never closed of course too right. Pretty weird gate huh?

    More like 500 miles apart if it were literal i guess?
    Revelation 21:16 Interlinear: and the city lieth square, and the length of it is as great as the breadth; and he did measure the city with the reed -- furlongs twelve thousand; the length, and the breadth, and the height, of it are equal;
    bad English there too hmm
     
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    I guess the same for hell, why it need gates? but it enlarge itself, so moving Gates?

    PICJAG.
     
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    We also have gates in our minds i guess, or maybe more like walls, locked gates, places we cannot go
    yet. You and your sons will be here with me etc
     
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    no, more like walls which Mexico will pay for ...... :)

    PICJAG.
     
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    Hmm well, i guess you did pay a fair amount for that wall i'm reffing huh?
    which surely makes it that much harder to use that key!

    you and your sons will be here with me
     
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    DON'T BUY into it, it just a wall around your mind .... ;)

    PICJAG.
     
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    Something The Hidden Messages in Water guy said struck me; about how we're somewhat fixated on love, yet "gratefulness" apparently makes a prettier water crystal? Or i guess a more accurate paraphrase is "the water exposed to 'grateful' looked more like the water exposed to 'love and grateful' than the water exposed to 'love.' "

    “What is the relationship between love and gratitude? For an answer to this question, we can use water as a model. A water molecule consists of two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom, represented by H2O. If love and gratitude , like oxygen and hydrogen, were linked together in a ratio of 1 to 2, gratitude would be twice as large as love.”

    "Dr. Masaru Emoto exposed this water to the phrase "Love and Gratitude" on a whim that together the love given and the gratitude received will form the most beautiful water crystal when frozen."
    The Energy of Water

    Ok gratitude then...can't find the quote tho. Same page as these
     
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    Why is it that we need Jesus? Is he not the Door or the Way or the Gate.

    "I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture." John 10:9

    "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6
     
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