You know
@amigo de christo,
@Illuminator,
Here is the way i see it.
John the baptist told the crowd and pharisees around him, that the baptism they were looking for was from the one whom baptises in the holy spirit and fire.
This can happen to people who do not “ontologically” know who jesus is.
You may disagree.
But this is how i see it, people who are born, in other counteies who may be muslim, hindu, buddist, and
A individual seeks out God, reaching out to the one whom “Created” them, they can be baptised, in tbe holy spirit and fire without really knowing Christ.
While the information you gave histrocally,
@Illuminator i dont think it really matters in the end, when the end result that muslim, that hindu, or that buddist, or whatever - and individual who seeks out God in faith, will be rewarded for seek him out, and they are rewarded by being lead by the spirit.
Some say hell no! You need to know everything in that bible to be saved and even say the name Jesus to be saved….
Well the name jesus over there is probably something different.
Anyway idk why i wanted to post this hut hope it draws some clarity.
It was John the baptist that pointed out, it is he that comes baptising in the holy spirit and fire which one should seek for, and God being more powerful than a book.
I believe he can even work in groups of people who may not know God by the aspects of the bible, but God knows whom is seeking him, and they will love God and love others — even if they may attend their religous matters.
As in the bible you have christians going to sacrfice even after jesus died and raised,
Can one disqaulify them as being saved? I dont think anyone can judge but God who is looking at the inward heart.
Not the knowledge or how intellegent one may be, but at the heart.
Is the heart dawning for God and dawing to love their neighbor?