What Is the strongest argument for atheism?

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Mancunian

Member
Aug 17, 2026
294
86
28
Cheshire
Faith
Atheist
Country
United Kingdom
Gender
Male
I’ll try to accommodate you. Is “unbeliever” and “nonbeliever” close enough?



Brahma is an idol and - as you know but my not remember - the scriptures tell us who is behind them.
1.2 billion Hindu followers might disagree but whatever.
 

Mancunian

Member
Aug 17, 2026
294
86
28
Cheshire
Faith
Atheist
Country
United Kingdom
Gender
Male
To be fair Brahma has lost a bit of his mojo.
Hindu followers apart from a scattered few have put him on the back burner and don't really worship him anymore.
It's Vishnu and Shiva that are flavour of the month nowadays.
It's a bit sad really for poor old Brahma after he supposedly was the creator.

I know that the thread is about atheists/atheism but this stuff above contributes to the atheist position when it's looked into and read about.

I think that Hinduism is the world's third biggest religion, correct me if I'm wrong but I think it's around 15% of thé world's population that subscribes to it.

I treat it the same way that I treat Islam Christianity/Mormonism and Judaism.... With skepticism.
 

Matthias

Well-Known Member
May 3, 2022
35,515
25,583
113
Kentucky
Faith
Other Faith
Country
United States
Gender
Male
To be fair Brahma has lost a bit of his mojo.
Hindu followers apart from a scattered few have put him on the back burner and don't really worship him anymore.
It's Vishnu and Shiva that are flavour of the month nowadays.
It's a bit sad really for poor old Brahma after he supposedly was the creator.

I know that the thread is about atheists/atheism but this stuff above contributes to the atheist position when it's looked into it read about.

I think that Hinduism is the world's third biggest religion, correct me if I'm wrong but I think it's around 15% of thé world's population that subscribes to it.

I treat it the same way that I treat Islam Christianity/Mormonism and Judaism.... With skepticism.

They all treat you like a non-believer.

Believe it or not, you still have an appointment with Jesus. Everyone does.
 

Mancunian

Member
Aug 17, 2026
294
86
28
Cheshire
Faith
Atheist
Country
United Kingdom
Gender
Male
They all treat you like a non-believer.

Believe it or not, you still have an appointment with Jesus. Everyone does.
And I treat you like a none believer in all God's but one.
I just don't believe in one more God than you so we have quite a lot of common ground.
 

Mancunian

Member
Aug 17, 2026
294
86
28
Cheshire
Faith
Atheist
Country
United Kingdom
Gender
Male
Do you know what annoys me?
The misconception that atheists are bad people and just want to sin, I'm not saying that all atheists are good people but the generalisation still remains.

I don't stand outside churches mosques or synagogues trying to convince worshipers that their God doesn't exist, I just get on with my life.

I'd love to find out what drives some Christians to spread the word? And on that subject, is it true in your opinion that people who have never heard of Jesus (like indigenous tribes) are safe from judgement?
And if so, why not leave them be instead of sending missionaries? Because if they don't accept Jesus they're then at risk.
 

Matthias

Well-Known Member
May 3, 2022
35,515
25,583
113
Kentucky
Faith
Other Faith
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Do you know what annoys me?

I know some about what does, and I’m learning more the more we talk.

The misconception that atheists are bad people and just want to sin, I'm not saying that all atheists are good people but the generalisation still remains.

I don't stand outside churches mosques or synagogues trying to convince worshipers that their God doesn't exist, I just get on with my life.

I'd love to find out what drives some Christians to spread the word?

For me, love of neighbor and obedience to the Great Commission.

And on that subject, is it true in your opinion that people who have never heard of Jesus (like indigenous tribes) are safe from judgement?

No. It’s not true.

And if so, why not leave them be instead of sending missionaries? Because if they don't accept Jesus they're then at risk.

They’re at risk whether missionaries speak with them or not. However, I do believe in the wider hope.
 

Matthias

Well-Known Member
May 3, 2022
35,515
25,583
113
Kentucky
Faith
Other Faith
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Does the Bible influence your opinions on abortion or assisted dying?

No. It informs me. Same for homosexuality.

Abortion, ”assisted dying,” and homosexuality aren’t strong arguments for atheism.
 

Mancunian

Member
Aug 17, 2026
294
86
28
Cheshire
Faith
Atheist
Country
United Kingdom
Gender
Male
No. It informs me. Same for homosexuality.

Abortion, ”assisted dying,” and homosexuality aren’t strong arguments for atheism.
I never said that they were.
Atheism only addresses the God question.

I think that the Bible has a lot to do with the chasm.
 

Mancunian

Member
Aug 17, 2026
294
86
28
Cheshire
Faith
Atheist
Country
United Kingdom
Gender
Male
This thread is about the strongest arguments for atheism.
I don't have to present an argument for a none belief, why can't you see that?

I'm guessing that you don't believe that fairies exist....
It's not up to you to present an argument for your none belief in fairies, it's up to the person who makes the claim that fairies exist to present their argument for the existence of fairies.

There are countless things that people don't believe in, nobody has to present an argument for their none belief in Bigfoot.
 

Matthias

Well-Known Member
May 3, 2022
35,515
25,583
113
Kentucky
Faith
Other Faith
Country
United States
Gender
Male
I don't have to present an argument for a none belief, why can't you see that?

I can. It isn’t persuasive.

I'm guessing that you don't believe that fairies exist....
It's not up to you to present an argument for your none belief in fairies, it's up to the person who makes the claim that fairies exist to present their argument for the existence of fairies.

There are countless things that people don't believe in, nobody has to present an argument for their none belief in Bigfoot.
 

Matthias

Well-Known Member
May 3, 2022
35,515
25,583
113
Kentucky
Faith
Other Faith
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Why?
Why do I need to present an argument for a none belief?
I'm presenting arguments for my beliefs on other subjects but they're beliefs.... Atheism isn't a belief.

“No one believes in atheism.” - an atheist