WHAT THE MARK OF THE BEAST IS AND THE MEANING OF 666

[Enoch111]

...They will not be completed in full until the last day.

There you go. You just confirmed that the 70th week of Daniel will be fulfilled in the future. And all those Scriptures you diligently quoted apply to the future reign of Christ on earth!

To claim that everlasting righteousness has ALREADY been established on earth when the devil is still walking about as a roaring lion is TOTALLY DELUSIONAL. Just like all of Preterism.

 

[biloqewu]

There you go. You just confirmed that the 70th week of Daniel will be fulfilled in the future. And all those Scriptures you diligently quoted apply to the future reign of Christ on earth!

To claim that everlasting righteousness has ALREADY been established on earth when the devil is still walking about as a roaring lion is TOTALLY DELUSIONAL. Just like all of Preterism.

No it is not, because the end of sin comes in phases, first the few who have been set apart by the airflow of God before the second coming of the Messiah, then the many among the nations who will live during the thousand year rulership of the Messiah, then the complete end of sin entering into the new heaven and new earth.

 

[Enoch111]

No it is not, because the end of sin comes in phases...

That's not what the prophecy of Daniel suggests or implies. In any event since you believe that the Antichrist has been around for sometime, you cannot arrive at a proper understanding of this prophecy. And furthermore, since sin and evil are on the increase, your theory fails right there. "As it was in the day of Noah" is what we are told about the time before the Second Coming of Christ.

 

[biloqewu]

That's not what the prophecy of Daniel suggests or implies. In any event since you believe that the Antichrist has been around for sometime, you cannot arrive at a proper understanding of this prophecy. And furthermore, since sin and evil are on the increase, your theory fails right there. "As it was in the day of Noah" is what we are told about the time before the Second Coming of Christ.

The end of sin only comes to the few who have been set apart to inherit the kingdom of God. This is what the scriptures say in accordance to the prophecy of Daniel,

for then he would have had to suffer repeatedly since the foundation of the world. But as it is, he has appeared once for all at the end of the aeons to do away away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
Hebrews 9:26

You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness.
Romans 6:18

Whosoever is born of God does not sin; for his seed remains in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
1 John 3:9

We know that every one born of God does not sin; but the one born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.
1 John 5:18

Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy set-apart city, to finish transgression, and to make an end of sin, and to make atonement for lawlessness, and to bring in aeonial righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most set-apart one.
Daniel 9:24

For by one offering he has perfected in perpetuity the ones having been set apart.
Hebrews 10:14

It is you who is in error and knows nothing.

 

[CoreIssue]

The end of sin only comes to the few who have been set apart to inherit the kingdom of God. This is what the scriptures say in accordance to the prophecy of Daniel,

for then he would have had to suffer repeatedly since the foundation of the world. But as it is, he has appeared once for all at the end of the aeons to do away away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
Hebrews 9:26

You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness.
Romans 6:18

Whosoever is born of God does not sin; for his seed remains in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
1 John 3:9

We know that every one born of God does not sin; but the one born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.
1 John 5:18

Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy set-apart city, to finish transgression, and to make an end of sin, and to make atonement for lawlessness, and to bring in aeonial righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most set-apart one.
Daniel 9:24

For by one offering he has perfected in perpetuity the ones having been set apart.
Hebrews 10:14

It is you who is in error and knows nothing.

I believe the Bible shows the AC is alive now but not in full powered operation. That will not happen until the Holy Spirit is removed in the rapture.

 

[biloqewu]

I believe the Bible shows the AC is alive now but not in full powered operation. That will not happen until the Holy Spirit is removed in the rapture.

No. No. No.

 

[CoreIssue]

No. No. No.

Says the guy who thinks he's an old testament jew.

 

[biloqewu]

Says the guy who thinks he's an old testament jew.

Obeying the Torah is not a matter of "making one's self think he is an old testament jew", it has to do with obeying the commands of God written in his Torah. I don't put on a tallit and tefillin because I think its cool, nor because I'm trying to be a jew, its because we are commanded to wear these things by God, to set ourselves apart. It is precisely because of your own lawlessness, where you think that the Torah does not apply to you, that you perceive me to be strange for obeying the commands of God. How much longer will you continue rejecting sound and logical teaching? Fiat currency is the mark of the beast, because it fulfills all the characteristics of the mark... it is evil because it is a false quantity prohibited by the Torah, it is issued to everyone rich and poor, it is issued to everyone in the world, and it is nearly impossible to buy or sell without it. Open your eyes.

 

[CoreIssue]

Obeying the Torah is not a matter of "making one's self think he is an old testament jew", it has to do with obeying the commands of God written in his Torah. I don't put on a tallit and tefillin because I think its cool, nor because I'm trying to be a jew, its because we are commanded to wear these things by God, to set ourselves apart. It is precisely because of your own lawlessness, where you think that the Torah does not apply to you, that you perceive me to be strange for obeying the commands of God. How much longer will you continue rejecting sound and logical teaching? Fiat currency is the mark of the beast, because it fulfills all the characteristics of the mark... it is evil because it is a false quantity prohibited by the Torah, it is issued to everyone rich and poor, it is issued to everyone in the world, and it is nearly impossible to buy or sell without it. Open your eyes.

Christ fulfill the Old Testament law.

You are like the Jews warned about in the New Testament. Constantly trying to put people back under the law they were freed from.

 

[biloqewu]

Christ fulfill the Old Testament law.

You are like the Jews warned about in the New Testament. Constantly trying to put people back under the law they were freed from.

If he had, he would not have said, "I did not come to abolish the Torah" and "until heaven and earth passes away, not one jot or one tittle will pass away from the Torah".

You know nothing of the teachings of the Messiah, except your own foolish teachings.

 

[CoreIssue]

If he had, he would not have said, "I did not come to abolish the Torah" and "until heaven and earth passes away, not one jot or one tittle will pass away from the Torah".

You know nothing of the teachings of the Messiah, except your own foolish teachings.

New International Version
Christ is the culmination of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.

You get the same answer every time you repeat this.

The law is fulfilled, completed, history.

 

[biloqewu]

New International Version
Christ is the culmination of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.

You get the same answer every time you repeat this.

The law is fulfilled, completed, history.

The Messiah is the culmination of the Torah because through the Messiah the Torah is fulfilled, NOT ABOLISHED, which is why Paul also says, "Do we then nullify Torah by this belief? Surely not! But rather, we uphold Torah".

You misconstrue fulfillment of Torah with abolishment of Torah, and have subsequently become lawless because of your own deception. The Messiah began to fulfill the Torah in his first coming, by fulfilling the Passover, Pentecost, First Fruits of Barley, and when he comes again, he will fulfill the autumn appointed times of the Torah, such as the trumpet blasts, Day of Atonement, Feast of Tabernacles, and the Shabbat. And once all those appointed times are fulfilled, then the Torah will pass away, but not before, hence "UNTIL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASSES AWAY, not one jot or one tittle will pass away from the Torah UNTIL ALL IS FULFILLED".

You're in error and you're also stubborn, and your own stubbornness is leading you straight to your own demise.

 

[CoreIssue]

The Messiah is the culmination of the Torah because through the Messiah the Torah is fulfilled, NOT ABOLISHED, which is why Paul also says, "Do we then nullify Torah by this belief? Surely not! But rather, we uphold Torah".

You misconstrue fulfillment of Torah with abolishment of Torah, and have subsequently become lawless because of your own deception. The Messiah began to fulfill the Torah in his first coming, by fulfilling the Passover, Pentecost, First Fruits of Barley, and when he comes again, he will fulfill the autumn appointed times of the Torah, such as the trumpet blasts, Day of Atonement, Feast of Tabernacles, and the Shabbat. And once all those appointed times are fulfilled, then the Torah will pass away, but not before, hence "UNTIL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASSES AWAY, not one jot or one tittle will pass away from the Torah UNTIL ALL IS FULFILLED".

You're in error and you're also stubborn, and your own stubbornness is leading you straight to your own demise.

Here you go try and interpret what I said to you.

Fulfill means no longer required, no longer in effect. It still exists but is not binding anymore.

Homosexuality was a death penalty under Mosaic law. It isn't today, but it still very serious sin.

Animal sacrifices were required then but not now.

And I can keep listening and now.

It says all the old holy days were fulfilled by Christ. Not just some which is what you're claiming.

There are prophetic times to come but they are not part of Mosaic law.

Not one iota was said under Mosaic law, not after Christ's death. So again you're trying to put law onto the church. The church, which did not exist when Christ made that statement.

 

[biloqewu]

Here you go try and interpret what I said to you.

Fulfill means no longer required, no longer in effect. It still exists but is not binding anymore.

Homosexuality was a death penalty under Mosaic law. It isn't today, but it still very serious sin.

Animal sacrifices were required then but not now.

And I can keep listening and now.

It says all the old holy days were fulfilled by Christ. Not just some which is what you're claiming.

There are prophetic times to come but they are not part of Mosaic law.

Not one iota was said under Mosaic law, not after Christ's death. So again you're trying to put law onto the church. The church, which did not exist when Christ made that statement.

Homosexuality is still worthy of death. This is why Paul said, "and any who commits any of these things is worthy of death". It is precisely because we are all worthy of death for breaking one command of the Torah or another that we all need mercy, to not suffer the death we deserve. We are now in a time of mercy, not because homosexuality is no longer worthy of death, but because God is merciful, but rest assured, when the Messiah returns, he will execute the punishment of death to all who chose to remain homosexual, which will be death by being thrown in lava.

Animals sacrifices are no longer required because there was a change in priesthood, not because there was an abolishment of Torah, where the Messiah became the new high priest, in the heavenly set-apart place, that the earthly set-apart place merely foreshadowed, with him becoming the literal sacrifice the Passover sacrifice foreshadowed.

Not all the appointed times of the Torah have been fulfilled by the Messiah, which is why he is coming with the sound of trumpets, to fulfill the trumpet blasts of the Torah, and why he is gathering his people from the four corners of the earth at the last blast, which is the one on the Day of Atonement, in fulfillment of the year of Yovel when everyone is to return to their properties, and the bowls of wrath of Revelation, which happen in the Feast of Tabernacles, for each day for seven bowls wine was poured on the altar using golden bowls.

And because the appointed times of the Torah have a fulfillment in the Messiah in some way is why there are no longer necessary to be observed, but "do not murder" and "do not steal" and "a man shall not wear women's clothing" remain as binding today as it was 3,000 years ago.

As I said, you know nothing, and you're in error, and heading straight to perdition because of your error, lawlessness, and stubbornness.

 

[Nancy]

An interesting thing about people claiming certain figures names equals 666 is that if there's any variation in the spelling or language in no longer equals 666.

Nero was Latin. Not English.

"Each letter of the Hebrew alphabet has a numerical equivalent. As an example, A = 1, B = 2, etc. Hebrew is a bit different than that, but you get the idea. Nero Caesar spelled in Hebrew equals 666. Someone said above that the earliest number was actually 616, but that is in error. Both 616 and 666 were used to identify Nero. An alternate spelling of Nero's name adds up to 616.

To the early Christians the number 666 was meaningless. It's no the number, it's the man the number referred to. A messenger could carry the Revelation to any community, point to the number 666 (or 616), and then explain what it meant. If the Apocalypse was read by the Romans they would not understand what it meant. For anyone to be caught with a document describing the death of an Emperor it would have been a death sentence."

how did 666 derive from nero?

 

[Enoch111]

Nero Caesar spelled in Hebrew equals 666.

Except that Nero was never the Antichrist, although he may have had the spirit of Antichrist. The coming of the Antichrist is a future event, and the Beast is neither the Pope, nor Macron, nor Nero.

 

[Phoneman777]

The mark is already here. If you're using fiat currency you already have the mark of the beast

Revelation tells us what the issue of the Mark of the Beast concerns, AND IT AIN'T CURRENCY, FIAT OR OTHERWISE.

According to Revelation 14, it just makes sense that if those who do not get the Mark are said to "keep the Commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus", then those who do get the Mark must be involved with breaking the Commandments of God.

 

[Phoneman777]

Except that Nero was never the Antichrist, although he may have had the spirit of Antichrist. The coming of the Antichrist is a future event, and the Beast is neither the Pope, nor Macron, nor Nero.

No, the Antichrist arose right on time, according to prophecy, among the Ten Horns of the fallen pagan Roman Empire - the papacy.

The papacy arose among them as the Little Horn which:

• "plucked three of the first horns" (destroyed the Heruli, Vandals, and Ostrogoths)
• was a "diverse" kingdom from the others (a religio/political kingdom)
• had "eyes like the eyes of man" (without benefit of Holy Spirit discernment)
• had a "mouth speaking great things" (blasphemously claiming to be God and ability to forgive sin)
• proceeded to "wear out the saints" (millions of saints were murdered for rejecting RCC dogmas)
• would "think to change times and laws" (papacy changed the Sabbath and the Ten Commandments)
• would rule for "time, times, and half a time" (1,260 prophetic days or literal years: A.D. 538-1798)

There are other identifying marks of prophecy which totally establish the papacy as Antichrist, so why look to the future, unless the lies of Jesuit Futurism have taken hold?

The famous preacher C. H. Spurgeon when speaking of the papal Antichrist said "no sane man ought to raise the question" as to Antichrist's identity.

 

[Enoch111]

No, the Antichrist arose right on time, according to prophecy, among the Ten Horns of the fallen pagan Roman Empire - the papacy.

There is no way that the papacy can be equated with the Antichrist. The Pope may turn out to be his ally, but the Antichrist must be a renegade Jew claiming to be Messiah and having access to the future temple at Jerusalem.

There is no way that Sunday worship is the Mark of the Beast, or paper currency is the Mark of the Beast. That mark will be a literal *brand* on those who submit to the Antichrist. It will probably be an electronic chip implanted in the right hand or in the forehead (Rev 13:16-18)

 

[biloqewu]

Revelation tells us what the issue of the Mark of the Beast concerns, AND IT AIN'T CURRENCY, FIAT OR OTHERWISE.

According to Revelation 14, it just makes sense that if those who do not get the Mark are said to "keep the Commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus", then those who do get the Mark must be involved with breaking the Commandments of God.

Fiat currency is the only thing that fulfills all the characteristics of the mark of the beast,

1. You cannot buy or sell without it.
2. It is used everywhere in the world.
3. It is issued to everyone rich and poor, small and great.
4. It is an abomination because through its lack of intrinsic value, which the bankers leverage devaluation and inflation with, thus making it a false quantity, which is forbidden in the Torah.

Whoever denies this in favor for RFID chips and 666 tattoos fantasies, or Sunday worship nonsense, is truly an idiot. He's waiting for something that's never going to happen, because its already here, because he has failed to perceive that the prophecies in Revelation regarding this are symbolic, not realizing that the fiat currency he's already using daily is that mark, because it is an abomination according to the Torah of God. It is actually because many of you people do not know the commands of the Torah of God that you fail to identify the mark of the beast, which is why it is written, "keep the commandments of God and have the belief of Yeshuah".... the commandments of God are found in the Torah. Your own lawlessness prevents you from perceiving the truth, which is why you cannot perceive the evil of fiat currency.