When does Satan impersonate Christ.

[The Learner]

Christ gave us clear warning of what would come at the end, that would if possible, deceive even the saints.

Matthew 24:24
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Mark 13:22
For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.

So we shall have things foretold happen and most Christians will be prepared and be able to discern they are false, but Satan as a 'angel of light' can show himself as such and the impersonation Christ takes place, and even the most sincere Christian would be hard pressed to see through this deception.

2 Corinthians 11:14
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

The church has long professed to look to the Second Coming of Christ as the realization of her hopes. Now the deceiver himself shows up as the 'angel of light' and make it appear that Christ has come in different parts of the earth.

In the end, the Beast power and the power of image of the Beast won't be enough. Satan will see he is going to lose his case and the apostate 'Mystery Babylon' won't be set up over all the world. So Satan comes and will manifest himself as the ultimate false christ, as a majestic being of dazzling brightness, resembling the description but only able to wander about on earth trying to deceive. What will Christians do?

Visions to false prophets, leaders and teachers.

 

[Ezra]

I would think Satan impersonates the Lord any time he believes it will help accomplish his purposes.

agreed

 

[lforrest]

Strange that you bring that up, because there is no mention of the "false prophet" in that Revelation 13:11-14 Scripture.

(By the way, one of the moderators here deleted what I said about the Trinity of The Godhead, so how are you getting by with that?)

No, The Antichrist is Satan himself. In the Greek, the word 'antichrist' simply means, 'the instead of' or 'in place of' Christ.

Now those who don't know all their Bible often make the mistake of not having understood just what 'sin' it was that Satan did in the beginning. Satan coveted God's Throne for himself, wanting to be GOD. Do you think Apostle Paul understood that point when he warned about that coming false one at the end of this world, exalting himself as GOD, and over all that is even called... GOD, or that is worshipped? (2 Thess.2:4). Paul was describing the very 'sin' that Satan first did in the beginning. And Paul attached the miracle working that Jesus described with that false one.

Not only this, but in Revelation 12:3-4 it is pointing to Satan as that "red dragon" who drew one third of the angels ("stars") to earth in rebellion with him. And there is given along with that time in the old world, a beast kingdom of ten horns, seven heads, but only seven crowns, that Satan used to rebel with in that OLD WORLD. I know, many would say to me about that, "what in the world are you talking about Davy?" ...

... simple, Satan originally rebelled in wanting to be GOD, and worshipped as GOD, and for the END of this world, Satan is being allowed to come to earth, literally, in OUR earthly dimension, and try to do it again.

May God help those who don't yet understand this, because the time is very short when he will come to play Messiah in today's Jerusalem. When he does come, working the great signs and wonders, claiming to be GOD, then it will be too late for those who do not yet understand this, for they will be deceived thinking he is The Christ-Messiah having returned.

The Antichrist, a man, sets himself up in the temple and claims to be God. This is a mockery of Jesus Christ, who's is both man and God. Jesus is also within the temple of our bodies.

 

[Rockerduck]

I will not be here to see the anti- christ, but he is behind the scenes right now, pulling the strings in politics. He will come out of the political system, aka sea of turmoil. All of satans minions are hard at work right now.

 

[Jay Ross]

The Antichrist, a man, sets himself up in the temple and claims to be God. This is a mockery of Jesus Christ, who's is both man and God. Jesus is also within the temple of our bodies.

Just like the beasts of Daniel 7. some see the beasts as wicked fallen rebelling angels while others see the beasts as people groups that manifests the dominate characteristic of the respective wicked fallen rebelling angels/heavenly hosts.

The kings of the earth that are imprisoned at the same time as the judged heavenly hosts, where they are released from the Bottomless pit after they had been imprisoned for 1,000 years, they are described as having "hair like that of women, and teeth like those of lions," whereas the four facetted Beast and the Little Horn/False Prophet and not described as if their hair and teeth had grown long like the kings of the earth who are also called locusts in Rev 9.

My understanding is that the Antichrist is a wicked fallen rebelling angel/heavenly host and the most likely entity is that this entity is Satan that attempts to present himself as the "Christ."

 

[Davy]

The Antichrist, a man, sets himself up in the temple and claims to be God. This is a mockery of Jesus Christ, who's is both man and God. Jesus is also within the temple of our bodies.

Well, regardless of what men's pop doctrines teach about 2 Thessalonians 2:-3-4, Apostle Paul's mention of the "temple of God" there is NOT about the Spiritual Temple represented by the foundation of Christ's Apostles and the prophets, with Jesus Christ as its Cornerstone. Those preachers who fell for that apparently do not understand that it is impossible for any false one, even a false spirit, to sit in Christ's Spiritual Temple and corrupt it. And corruption is the idea Paul was pointing to in 2 Thess.2:4 with that "man of sin". Thus Paul was pointing to the idea of the 'traditional' stone temple in Jerusalem. And just who would want to confuse that idea of another Jewish temple built there in Jerusalem for the end? That is who those pop preachers have listened to on the matter, instead of staying in God's Word about it, like Ephesians 2:19-22.

 

[Hobie]

Satan appearing as an angel of light does not mean he is coming as a immitation for Christ, but as an immitation of a holy angel. A holy angel sent by God with a message.

An example of this is the claimed appearance of the archangel Gabriel to Mohammed. This archangel instructed Mohammed to write the Qur'an. Now we know by the Qur'an denying Jesus as the Son of God that it is lying. And a Holy Angel such as Gabriel wouldn't be tasked with spreading a lie that is counter to the will of God. The will of God the Father that all would believe in his son, whom he sent.

If a man can deceive so many as we see all these healers and preachers who claim they are seeing Christ or even worse, that they are a god, what do you think will happen when a powerful spiritual being shows up before people. Satan is able to deceive many souls who have little or no background in the truth, and when they see the tremendous power and false healings and seeming miracles, they wont be hard to convince.

Acts 8:9-11
9 But there was a certain man, called Simon, which beforetime in the same city used sorcery, and bewitched the people of Samaria, giving out that himself was some great one:
10 To whom they all gave heed, from the least to the greatest, saying, This man is the great power of God.
11 And to him they had regard, because that of long time he had bewitched them with sorceries.

Revelation 12:9
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

 

[Davy]

And just so 'concerned' brethren that want to understand about the coming Antichrist for the end, a 3rd Jewish temple built in Jerusalem is required per Bible prophecy at the end of this world. Those who are trying to hide this fact, you need to run from them, because they either do not really know The Scriptures or they are pushing confusion of the false Jews who do not want this fact known.

There's already been 2 major groups of orthodox Jews in today's Jerusalem that have been preparing the materials to build their next 3rd temple, even with the cutting of foundation stones and manufacture of temple worship artifacts. One of them is called the Temple Mount and Land of Israel Faithful.

Why... is another 'Jewish' temple required to be standing for the end Bible prophecies?

It is because the "abomination of desolation" prophecy that Lord Jesus quoted from the Book of Daniel requires it, because that prophecy in Daniel 11 involves the coming Antichrist to follow what Antiochus IV did in 165 B.C. in Jerusalem. Antiochus took Jerusalem with an army, but the "vile person" of Daniel 11 will come to power in Jerusalem as king using peace instead. The "league" or 'covenant' that he will establish in Jerusalem is the old covenant with animal sacrifices re-established with a standing Jewish stone temple. That is what will happen when he appears for the first 1260 days of Daniel's symbolic "one week" of Daniel 9:27.

Then in the middle of that "one week", after the first 1260 day period, that Antichrist will end... the daily sacrifices by the Jews, and instead will go inside their new temple and spiritually desolate with placing an IDOL in false worship inside it. That is what the "abomination of desolation" event is about that Jesus quoted for the end. Rev.13 calls that IDOL the "image of the beast", and it will be associated with the "mark of the beast". Anyone who refuses to bow to it, or refuses the mark are to be executed it says, mimicking the days of the king of Babylon with his demand that all worship his golden image idol.

There's a prophecy in Zechariah 6 about The BRANCH (put for Lord Jesus Christ). It says He will build the temple. That will actually happen when Lord Jesus does return to destroy that Antichrist. Jesus will build the future "thousand years" temple of Ezekiel 40 forward. The false Jews well know that Zech.6 prophecy, and they will falsely setup their king-Messiah in place of Jesus, and that false Messiah (Antichrist) will build today's Jew's 3rd temple that will wind up serving the coming Antichrist and his idol worship during the coming "great tribulation".

In Matthew 24 and Mark 13, Jesus said the generation that will 'see' ALL those SIGNS of the end He gave there, shall not pass until ALL those things are fulfilled. The very beginning SIGN of the end He covered there is about not one stone atop another standing there at the Temple Mount complex. Today, the Western Wall of the old 2nd temple complex, and Islamic stone structures are still standing upon today's Temple Mount in Jerusalem. So truly, that prophecy is for when Jesus returns in our near future. He will literally destroy those structures and make room for the temple of Ezekiel that He will build for His future "thousand years" reign of Rev.20. Thus the 70 A.D. destruction of Jerusalem and the temple was only to serve as an "ensample" of the final destruction that is to happen on the day Christ's feet touch down upon the Mount of Olives per Zechariah 14.

 

[Davy]

I will not be here to see the anti- christ, but he is behind the scenes right now, pulling the strings in politics. He will come out of the political system, aka sea of turmoil. All of satans minions are hard at work right now.

That suggests that you believe in man's false Pre-trib Rapture theory.

We (Christ's Church) are not going anywhere until Jesus returns AFTER... the tribulation like He said in Matthew 24:29-31 and Mark 13:24-27.

And even then, God's Word points to Jesus gathering those of His still alive on earth up in the air with Him on His way to... the Mount of Olives per Zechariah 14.

So unless we die beforehand, we most likely will see Satan coming as the Antichrist to earth in our earthly dimension, with his angels, like Rev.12:7 forward points to.

And some of us are to be delivered up to give a TESTIMONY against the beast by The Holy Spirit (Mark 13). That is why Christ's Church will go through the coming "great tribulation". We have a duty for Christ Jesus to fulfill, along with God's "two witnesses" in Jerusalem.

 

[Rockerduck]

That suggests that you believe in man's false Pre-trib Rapture theory.

We (Christ's Church) are not going anywhere until Jesus returns AFTER... the tribulation like He said in Matthew 24:29-31 and Mark 13:24-27.

And even then, God's Word points to Jesus gathering those of His still alive on earth up in the air with Him on His way to... the Mount of Olives per Zechariah 14.

So unless we die beforehand, we most likely will see Satan coming as the Antichrist to earth in our earthly dimension, with his angels, like Rev.12:7 forward points to.

And some of us are to be delivered up to give a TESTIMONY against the beast by The Holy Spirit (Mark 13). That is why Christ's Church will go through the coming "great tribulation". We have a duty for Christ Jesus to fulfill, along with God's "two witnesses" in Jerusalem.

Jesus told me this. I won't be here. It doesn't matter what you say.

 

[lforrest]

Well, regardless of what men's pop doctrines teach about 2 Thessalonians 2:-3-4, Apostle Paul's mention of the "temple of God" there is NOT about the Spiritual Temple represented by the foundation of Christ's Apostles and the prophets, with Jesus Christ as its Cornerstone. Those preachers who fell for that apparently do not understand that it is impossible for any false one, even a false spirit, to sit in Christ's Spiritual Temple and corrupt it. And corruption is the idea Paul was pointing to in 2 Thess.2:4 with that "man of sin". Thus Paul was pointing to the idea of the 'traditional' stone temple in Jerusalem. And just who would want to confuse that idea of another Jewish temple built there in Jerusalem for the end? That is who those pop preachers have listened to on the matter, instead of staying in God's Word about it, like Ephesians 2:19-22.

The similarities do not need to be exact for a mockery to take place. A new physical temple mocking the spiritual temple would suit Satan just fine. Even a scheme affecting himself over the bodies of his followers would count.

 

[Davy]

Jesus told me this. I won't be here. It doesn't matter what you say.

All I did was POINT YOU TO THE SCRIPTURE of what JESUS says.

So don't tell you me listen to JESUS when you show you do not!

 

[lforrest]

If a man can deceive so many as we see all these healers and preachers who claim they are seeing Christ or even worse, that they are a god, what do you think will happen when a powerful spiritual being shows up before people. Satan is able to deceive many souls who have little or no background in the truth, and when they see the tremendous power and false healings and seeming miracles, they wont be hard to convince.

Acts 8:9-11
9 But there was a certain man, called Simon, which beforetime in the same city used sorcery, and bewitched the people of Samaria, giving out that himself was some great one:
10 To whom they all gave heed, from the least to the greatest, saying, This man is the great power of God.
11 And to him they had regard, because that of long time he had bewitched them with sorceries.

Revelation 12:9
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

And yet a man is sufficient to decive other men. Expecially when backed by the power of an angel.

The grevious wound of the Antichrist causes me concern. It would be clear if he were an angel because there wouldn't be any blood.

There is the matter of his name being the number of a man.

 

[Davy]

The similarities do not need to be exact for a mockery to take place. A new physical temple mocking the spiritual temple would suit Satan just fine. Even a scheme affecting himself over the bodies of his followers would count.

The "temple of God" idea in 2 Thess.2:4 has no similarity to the Spiritual Temple concept. I showed that per the Ephesians 2 Scripture.

Paul was pointing to another literal material Jewish stone temple standing at the end which that "man of sin" will use to play God in. And that 2 Thess.2 Scripture is not the only... Scripture example of that future event. Jesus also showed it in Matthew 24:15-26 about the "abomination of desolation" event of Daniel 11:31 regarding the symbolic "vile person" (Antichrist).

Christ's Spiritual Temple is of The Spirit. It is not a geographical materialistic piece of earth, or building structure, nor earthly organization by men. The Spiritual Temple is made up of His Apostles and prophets as the foundation, and those in Christ as 'lively stones', with Jesus as its Cornerstone.

The Spiritual Temple can NEVER be CORRUPTED, period. The reason is because it would mean that Lord Jesus Christ Himself could be corrupted. Can't happen. That's why it's important to distinguish between a materialistic monument and The Spirit, because they are two different and separate things. I still am so surprised at the gullibility of some preachers today that buy into that lie that 2 Thess.2:4 represents Christ's Spiritual Temple. If a corrupt one creeps into Christ's Spiritual Temple, they are simply 'cut off' from it.

Thus the 2 Thess.2:4 "temple of God" is about the traditional Jewish stone temple in Jerusalem. Jesus also showed the coming pseudo-Christ is coming to sit in it.

 

[Rockerduck]

All I did was POINT YOU TO THE SCRIPTURE of what JESUS says.

So don't tell you me listen to JESUS when you show you do not!

Oh my, another skeptic. Jesus doesn't talk to you, so He doesn't talk to anybody. The Holy Spirit doesn't talk to you so He doesn't talk to anybody. Wake up. Jesus talks to His chosen, and the Holy Spirit does too.

 

[Davy]

And yet a man is sufficient to decive other men. Expecially when backed by the power of an angel.

The grevious wound of the Antichrist causes me concern. It would be clear if he were an angel because there wouldn't be any blood.

There is the matter of his name being the number of a man.

What "grevious wound of the Antichrist"? Are you talking about the "deadly wound" of Rev.13?

Rev 13:3
3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
KJV

Per Jesus in Rev.17, the "seven heads" represent "seven mountains". That points to 7 regions on the earth.

Many make the mistake with English translations of Rev.13 using pronouns like "his", thinking it is pointing to a person, when it is not. The 1st beast that comes up out of the 'sea' has ten horns, seven heads, and ten crowns. Rev.17 defines the ten horns as ten kings, so how can that be about a single person like the Antichrist? It's not, instead it is pointing to a 'kingdom' beast coming up out of the 'sea', not a person. It's about the "waters" shown in Rev.17:15 which is about peoples and nations. The 1st beast is about a world beast kingdom.

But the 2nd beast, the "another beast" of Rev.13:11, that is... about a singular person, the Antichrist.

Thus the "deadly wound" is upon ONE of the "seven mountains", or areas upon the earth. And when the "another beast" shows up, it is healed...

Rev 13:12
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
KJV

That points to that "deadly wound" having originally happened at sometime in past history.

 

[Davy]

Oh my, another skeptic. Jesus doesn't talk to you, so He doesn't talk to anybody. The Holy Spirit doesn't talk to you so He doesn't talk to anybody. Wake up. Jesus talks to His chosen, and the Holy Spirit does too.

If you cannot disprove the following Scripture out the mouth of Lord Jesus, then it means you are NOT listening to Him...

Matt 24:29-31
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And He shall send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
KJV

Mark 13:24-27
24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
27 And then shall He send His angels, and shall gather together His elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.
KJV

 

[lforrest]

The "temple of God" idea in 2 Thess.2:4 has no similarity to the Spiritual Temple concept. I showed that per the Ephesians 2 Scripture.

Paul was pointing to another literal material Jewish stone temple standing at the end which that "man of sin" will use to play God in. And that 2 Thess.2 Scripture is not the only... Scripture example of that future event. Jesus also showed it in Matthew 24:15-26 about the "abomination of desolation" event of Daniel 11:31 regarding the symbolic "vile person" (Antichrist).

Christ's Spiritual Temple is of The Spirit. It is not a geographical materialistic piece of earth, or building structure, nor earthly organization by men. The Spiritual Temple is made up of His Apostles and prophets as the foundation, and those in Christ as 'lively stones', with Jesus as its Cornerstone.

The Spiritual Temple can NEVER be CORRUPTED, period. The reason is because it would mean that Lord Jesus Christ Himself could be corrupted. Can't happen. That's why it's important to distinguish between a materialistic monument and The Spirit, because they are two different and separate things. I still am so surprised at the gullibility of some preachers today that buy into that lie that 2 Thess.2:4 represents Christ's Spiritual Temple. If a corrupt one creeps into Christ's Spiritual Temple, they are simply 'cut off' from it.

Thus the 2 Thess.2:4 "temple of God" is about the traditional Jewish stone temple in Jerusalem. Jesus also showed the coming pseudo-Christ is coming to sit in it.

The tabernacle and the temples in Jerusalem were modeled after the temple in heaven.

 

[Davy]

The tabernacle and the temples in Jerusalem were modeled after the temple in heaven.

That's irrelevant to what Paul was showing in 2 Thess.2:4 regarding the false one coming to exalt himself as GOD sitting in a JEWISH STONE TEMPLE built at the end of this world.

 

[Rockerduck]

The tabernacle and the temples in Jerusalem were modeled after the temple in heaven.

I had a vision, I saw a Golden Tabernacle in Heaven, it was pure gold. So you are correct, the earthly tabernacle is copied after the Heavenly one.