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[Removed by Mod] Proverbs 11:31 "Behold, the righteous shall be recompensed IN THE EARTH: much more the wicked and the sinner."
Proverbs 11:31 New International Version (NIV)
31 If the righteous receive their due on earth,
how much more the ungodly and the sinner!
No resurrection here.
If the sinners all drop dead at the glorious coming of Jesus:
23 I looked at the earth,
and it was formless and empty;
and at the heavens,
and their light was gone.
24 I looked at the mountains,
and they were quaking;
all the hills were swaying.
25 I looked, and there were no people;
every bird in the sky had flown away.
26 I looked, and the fruitful land was a desert;
all its towns lay in ruins
before the Lord, before his fierce anger.
This is looking back not forward.
The destruction of the earth between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2. The ancient war in heaven.
No mention of resurrection either.
8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming.
Satan will exist for eternity. He will never be destroyed, but condemned to the lake of fire.
Here he is chained and cast in the pit for thousand years.
No resurrection here.
...just where, pray tell, should we expect the wicked to rise when they are resurrected? Any sane man would say at the spot right where they dropped dead. What say you?
Lord have mercy, do you mean to suggest that the two are not one in the same?
No, it's called "hermeneutics". I'll ask again, Do you actually think a literal prison with chains can bind Satan and his demons? If not, then the phrase "loosed from his prison" doesn't mean loosed from a literal prison , but a symbolic prison: a "prison of circumstances".[/QUOTE]
Chains from God most can most assuredly subdue. Same same as the fallen angels which have been changed in the pit since the war in heaven.
Demons are never called fallen Angels nor fallen Angels called demons anywhere in the Bible.
Proverbs 11:31 New International Version (NIV)
31 If the righteous receive their due on earth,
how much more the ungodly and the sinner!
No resurrection here.
If the sinners all drop dead at the glorious coming of Jesus:
- "at the presence of the Lord and by His fierce anger" (Jeremiah 4:23-26),
23 I looked at the earth,
and it was formless and empty;
and at the heavens,
and their light was gone.
24 I looked at the mountains,
and they were quaking;
all the hills were swaying.
25 I looked, and there were no people;
every bird in the sky had flown away.
26 I looked, and the fruitful land was a desert;
all its towns lay in ruins
before the Lord, before his fierce anger.
This is looking back not forward.
The destruction of the earth between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2. The ancient war in heaven.
No mention of resurrection either.
- when He comes to destroy the Man of Sin "with the brightness of His coming" (2 Thessalonians 2:8),
8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming.
Satan will exist for eternity. He will never be destroyed, but condemned to the lake of fire.
Here he is chained and cast in the pit for thousand years.
No resurrection here.
- when "the slain of the Lord at that day shall be from one end...to the other end of the Earth" (Jeremiah 25:30-33)
- when "the Lord will come with fire...and the slain of the Lord shall be many (Isaiah 66:15-17)
...just where, pray tell, should we expect the wicked to rise when they are resurrected? Any sane man would say at the spot right where they dropped dead. What say you?
Lord have mercy, do you mean to suggest that the two are not one in the same?
No, it's called "hermeneutics". I'll ask again, Do you actually think a literal prison with chains can bind Satan and his demons? If not, then the phrase "loosed from his prison" doesn't mean loosed from a literal prison , but a symbolic prison: a "prison of circumstances".[/QUOTE]
Chains from God most can most assuredly subdue. Same same as the fallen angels which have been changed in the pit since the war in heaven.
Demons are never called fallen Angels nor fallen Angels called demons anywhere in the Bible.