You did not answer the question. I asked if you know what heaven/heavens is/are. Do you know what is/are heaven/heavens or not?
When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture
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You did not answer the question. I asked if you know what heaven/heavens is/are. Do you know what is/are heaven/heavens or not?
You, dad, you said that : "The heavens we now see will passa away one day". OK, but, based in your own words I asked: What is/are heaven/heavens we now see?
Why don't you answer the question? You said and I would like to know "what heavens we now see", reason by which I asked for you what heavens do we now see?
Thus, I asked if you know what heaven/heavens NOW is/are. Do you know what is/are heaven/heavens or not?
You are saying nothing as always, what prevails is the Word of GOD. Since two thousand years ago the Word of GOD says: "the heavens and the earth, which are now (AND YOU SAY WE SEE THEM NOW) are kept in store, reserved unto FIRE against the Day of Judgment (THE RIGHTEOUS JUDGMENT OF GOD-THE WORD IS GOD) and perdition of ungodly men.
Scriptures are revealing that the heavens (were) are reserved unto FIRE, understand? Against this Day of Judgment, understand?
Well, the only "heaven" you see now is the satanic and cursed idolatry of your avatar, the devilish picture is worshiped by the Beast of sea and his followers, which attend in the idolater Roman Catholic Church, that is the Great Whore. By the way, ONE of the 7 heads of the religious and satanic MONSTER of 7 heads, and 10 horns, and a NAME OF BLASPHEMY, will be mortally wounded from now on.
Get ready
Your inability to comprehend something does not make it nothing.
There is a fire at the end of the 1000 years. This is news?
Your idea that the resurrection is some sort of 'idolatry' is downright weird. Not sure why you are posting on a Christian site?
Try to lay off the incoherent off topic rambling.
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Your idolatry and your idols will be destroyed completely.All the idols shall utterly abolish.
The men shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the Lord, and for the glory of his Majesty, He arises to shake terribly the earth in this Day a man a man will cast his idols of silver, and his idols of gold, which they made each one for himself to worship, to the moles and to the bats, to go into the clefts of the rocks, and into the tops of the ragged rocks, for fear of the Lord, and for the Glory of His Majesty, He arises to shake terribly the earth. Isaiah 2 combined with Jeremiah 10:v.11-12
Cease you from man, whose breath is in your nostrils: for wherein is you to be accounted?
Try to remember not to spam verses that have no relation to the topic an conversation. People will try to hide, of course. Not sure how you can address the topic since you wave away the Rapture and try to have it happen yo yo style when He returns. You also waved off the 1000 yrs of His rule. You also made weird false accusations about a pretty painting of the resurrection. This was to be simply a discussion of a certain chapter and topic. If the Rapture was not until the end of all the signs, then what Jesus said makes no sense. Why look up when they just start for our redemption?
Make your point. What about the heavens, first, second or third? They have what to do with the Rapture? Or topic?
I insisted on the question to make you feel that it is a problem to want to talk about the Bible, without understanding what is revealed in/by the Word of GOD.
In fact, you yourself do not know what heaven is, you just think and say it's sky, according you post #590, a false interpretation, so what you say it's a misleading, it's fake, a lie, unfortunately.
I am not condemning you, I am just trying to open your eyes, just like my Master -the Lord JESUS- would do .
Whatever you think heaven is doesn't matter. The only question is how does that relate to us being caught up into the air to be with Him before the wrath of God.
1 Thessalonians 1:10
And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.
So, wherever you think heaven is, Jesus comes from there to deliver/redeem us from the wrath to come.
We will learn real well when we get taken up to meet Him. Have you some knowledge to share here about heaven? Or do you just like to spam threads acting like no one knows anything about heaven but you?
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Nehemiah 9:6 KJV
[6] Thou, even thou, art Lord alone; thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee.
This scripture here tells us where heaven is. God dwells there.
Right. I remember hearing that that were three heavens. The one where the birds fly, or basically the atmosphere. The one where the stars are. And the one beyond where God is. What is not clear is what any of that has to do with how we are to look up when the things spoken about start to happen?
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