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We know that it will be as the days of Noah. Extreme violence throughout the world, utter depravity everywhere, and no love. Just selfish pleasure seeking and willingness to destroy others to a achieve it.
What we don't know and cannot imagine is how intense and challenging and horrifying and ugly and at times heartbreaking it will be to live through it.
you speak of the end result of exactly where its headed .
But lets go back up to an earlier part of your writing . you said and no love .
You mean to say NO LOVE OF GOD .
cause how do you think these abominations have g rown so wild to now be accepted .
HOW do you think it was possible to even convince christendom of a false gospel .
OH IT was by love . ONLY IT was the love of a harlot padnah .
NIMROD is king ecuemincal inclusivian .
and his message of love has turned this people of the world , of the false relgoins
of athiest and of wicans , and of christendom
TO a lov e that has them now so hard , harder than ever before , and its against GOD , HIS CHRIST
and HIS WORDS and his FUDAMENTAL sheep baby .
OH , when you saw the word fundamental , perhaps even you saw the word extremist .
NO SIR .
WE were always supposed to have been FUNAMENTAL TO THE DOCTRINE OF ChRIST .
You really need to go to inteafith sections
YOU really need to see what also evangelicals , liberals , atheist and all are now starting
to see as a means of peace in this world .
And i bet ten trillion dollars even the adventist church is already UNDER its sway .
LA madre of mintidas ye muerte canta palabras de el am ore de muerte .
That HO has sung baby . She has infiltrated all realms with her love song .
And her peace be of anti christ .
 
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It was your idea to bring this up. Good ahead, show us what you got.
Lets see here is a promise . IN THIS WORLD ye shall have persecutions , tribulations .
WE were never promised we would not suffer for HIS NAME SAKE .
IN fact
we are told that not only it is given unto us to HAVE TO BELIEVE ON HIM
but to also SUFFER FOR HIS NAME SAKE .
Our peace will be the same as the peace even the apostels had .
IN HIM is our peace . but in this world will be persecution .
Notice how even the apostles after being BEATEN like dogs with whips
were REJOICING that they had been counted worthy to suffer shame for Him
NOTICE that after having been whipped like a mongrel dog
and IN PRISON as well , we had paul and silas
not only praying but SINGING to the HOLY GOD .
WE WERE NEVER promised peace in this world . we were promised only PEACE IN JESUS .
THEY cannot take our joy or our peace from us , no ma tter what they do to us .
FOR JESUS IS OUR JOY , HE IS OUR PEACE and our HOPE be not in this life and world
BUT IN HIM and our hope is forever with HIM in the new heavens and new earth .
 
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Lets see here is a promise . IN THIS WORLD ye shall have persecutions , tribulations .
WE were never promised we would not suffer for HIS NAME SAKE .

I see so we should all just lay down and let the devil walk all over us, right?

There's no hope for Christians to live in victory in this life then?
 
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Not so sure. All I know is I am talking about the Kingdom of God, when I shared my comment.
are you ready for a huge laugh my friend .
Now i am not going to give you any names of who said this ,
but YOU AND I are being accused of being the same person . DO T RY NOT TO LAUGH too hard about that .
OH yes . f or some odd reason people seem to get the oddest things into their heads .
NOW to be honest i understand sometimes people can slip up and get things messed up .
BUT i done told this person more than once that you and I are not the same person .
Go ahead randy have a good laugh about that one .
 
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I see so we should all just lay down and let the devil walk all over us, right?

There's no hope for Christians to live in victory in this life then?
Do you see my laying down . HECK NO i expose teh works of satan and his ecumeincal inclusive whore daughter .
I aint lying down bud . I am busy exposing . that ol harlot and her father dont scare me .
AND ITS NOT cause i think i am s tronger or etc than they .
ITS CAUSE JESUS , GOD , is with me and i do NOT fear what man can do to me .
Exposing a harlot is my duty .
exposing this anti christ interfaith is my duty .
And i know , i know some will say but amigo you cant stand Ecuemincalsm inclusvism interfaith .
So why on earth go to work exposing it .
AND that is the BEAUTY OF IT . I GETS TO POINT TO JESUS and put a boot upside the rump
of it all day long . I Expose darkness , i dont find common ground and seek the love of a harlot
and try and hug folks to hell by means of a false love that cometh always with a judge not
against all that expose sins and darkness . I dont sit under HOS
FOR HOS is what i expose . enjoy the rhyme randy .
AND go ahead and get a good laugh at what i wrote to you earlier
WE GOT FOLKS thinking ME AND YOU IS THE SAME MAN . I am sure that gonna shock you too .
 
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Do you see my laying down . HECK NO

Well you did say "Lets see here is a promise. IN THIS WORLD ye shall have persecutions , tribulations .
WE were never promised we would not suffer for HIS NAME SAKE"

How do you prevent the devil from constantly keeping your life in turmoil then?
Are there any promises you've seen in the New Testament promising victory over darkness in our personal lives?

Or, do you live under persecutions, tribulations, and suffering every day?
 
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Look at our world today—wars, turmoil in the Middle East, growing deception, and increasing hostility toward biblical truth. These events are probably setting the stage for Revelation’s final prophecies! Before God's terrifying future judgment falls, three angels will deliver heaven's urgent warnings to humanity: to warn the world of the Antichrist's deadly deception and the eternal consequences of rejecting Christ.
I think Daniel 7 is the beginning of the end, showing four diverse beasts representing a quartering of the earth, the fourth being the Middle East where the ten horns exist prior to the rise of the little horn. In Genesis 15:18-21, when Abraham's Seed was given the land for His kingdom, 10 nations were also mentioned. This land is where Yeshua's kingdom will be established, being the Seed of Abraham to whom the promise was given. Galatians 3:16 When He comes to take His land back in the day of the Lord is when He destroys the sinners out of that land. Isaiah 13:9-11

There are 10 horns in that land and a little horn that comes up after them. The size can't represent strength because he plucks 3 of the 10 and they fall before him. Since a horn represents a king who represents a kingdom, the size must represent the size of the kingdom and if you look at the land the 10 nations promised to Yeshua inhabit today, they are almost all larger Islamic nations surrounding little Israel.

I think the world will get more and more antagonistic against Israel and Jews in general, giving a pressure for Jews around the world to go the one place they know their own people have their backs. But I don't think it will be until a man comes on the scene pushing for Israel to return to God and promising peace and security that many of those of Israel from around the world will make the leap to move to Israel.

This transition to the statutes of the Mosaic Covenant will require a temple and we saw what happened in October 7, 2023 partially at the hint of red cows being brought to Israel. This is when I think Daniel 11:40-44 will take place, the plucking of the three horns, one being Egypt, then to the north and east, possibly Syria (Isaiah 17) and/or Turkey and maybe Iraq/Iran?

I believe this parallels the first four seals being broken, the king given a crown and conquering, the war that follows, the rebuilding of the temple in the third seal, and continued war leading to the death of the king in Jerusalem. Daniel 11:45, Revelation 13:3, Revelation 17:8,11-13

It is his resurrection from this and abomination of desolation that begins the second half of the week in which the trumpets, thunders, and bowls of God's wrath take place.

Given we are in November of 2026 and we haven't seen any of the indications of the first half beginning yet, and the Revelation 8:8 must come at least 3.5 years after the start, the April 13, 2029 Apophis fly by will probably not be the fulfillment of that imo.

So I expect that the coming years will see events that break up the current geopolitics somewhat to form more global alliances represented by the 4 beasts of Daniel 7. The first three of these will later give their power to the fourth as seen when the four diverse beasts of Daniel 7 become combined as parts of the Dragon in Revelation 13, they give their power over to him after the abomination of desolation.

My best guess is a combination of global conflict and financial collapse will create wider alliances among nations, probably aligned with similar ideals such as the Western nations aligning, the more Socialist/Communist nations aligning, the Islamic kingdoms aligning, etc. AI could certainly play a role in the collapse of finance and many other things through elimination of security measures as a result of combining quantum computing with AI to make cryptography effectively useless.

Meanwhile, Israel will remain strong, even if she has no friends in the world and will beat back any attempt to wipe her out. Nothing will remove her from the land and God's promise to that effect will likely be used by the Dragon to set up his king as an anointed figure in the eyes of the people. The more the world hates Israel, the more of Israel will move there and the stronger she will get.

My guess is that the pressure of hatred against her combined with the arrival of a leader accepted as from the line of David and possibly bringing something like the Ark of the Covenant as a rallying point of archaeological proof and spiritual connection of the people to the covenant their fathers made with God at Sinai will see the times and laws change very quickly as Israel returns to the God of their fathers and all that entails in the statutes of the Mosaic Covenant. This includes rebuilding the tabernacle/temple and ministering at it according to the statutes.

This is what started the first 69 weeks when Ezra went to teach the statutes to properly do them at the rebuilt temple in Jerusalem, I suspect this will be what kick starts the final week when the Mosaic Covenant is brought back to its full strength and followed. God promised if they sincerely sought Him that He would meet them where they are at, blinded to Yeshua and living under the Old Covenant.

Deuteronomy 4:27-31 – "And the LORD shall scatter you among the nations, and ye shall be left few in number among the heathen, whither the LORD shall lead you. And there ye shall serve gods, the work of men's hands, wood and stone, which neither see, nor hear, nor eat, nor smell. But if from thence thou shalt seek the LORD thy God, thou shalt find [him], if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul. When thou art in tribulation, and all these things are come upon thee, [even] in the latter days, if thou turn to the LORD thy God, and shalt be obedient unto his voice; (For the LORD thy God [is] a merciful God;) he will not forsake thee, neither destroy thee, nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which he sware unto them."

In the latter days God will honor the covenant He made with the fathers of Israel and in their blindness Israel will seek Him in manner of the covenant of their fathers to which they are also tied. And until the daily ministry is stopped and the man of sin enters into the temple and declares himself to be God, He will not forget the statutes He gave Israel to do throughout their generations and will honor their blind seeking of Him in sincerity. The two witnesses will also spend about half their ministry in this time before the abomination of desolation witnessing to Israel coming to worship God at the temple. They, and the Christians in Judea, will likely be those warning of the abomination of desolation and what to do when it happens for those faithful of Israel.

These are certainly interesting times and we may see prophecy start coming to pass sooner than expected, keep watching!
 

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Im not someone who believes they will witness Jesus come back. I do believe people recieve the spirit of Christ, and become part of the kingdom and that kingdom is within themselves. They inherit the spirit of Christ to live by and they can build up spiritual treasures in heaven in their heart cause if that is where their heart is. There it is.

Becoming spiritually alive and risen with Christ through faith in the resurrection of Jesus by the holy spirit of God.
 

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Well you did say "Lets see here is a promise. IN THIS WORLD ye shall have persecutions , tribulations .
WE were never promised we would not suffer for HIS NAME SAKE"

How do you prevent the devil from constantly keeping your life in turmoil then?
Are there any promises you've seen in the New Testament promising victory over darkness in our personal lives?

Or, do you live under persecutions, tribulations, and suffering every day?
Real easy randy . so easy even a young child can see it .
You asked how do i prevent the devil from keeping my life in turmoil .
I have JESUS . my life is not wrapped up in THIS Life nor do i worry about the morrow
or what man can do to me .
IN fact allow me to let you in on a huge secrete . EVEN IF I WERE KILLED
to depart and be WITH JESUS IS WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY and FAR FAR FAR FAR BETTER .
THE ONLY reason i am still here . Its not for cares and pleasures in THIS LIFE
ITS to spread the T RUTH about JESUS and to expose all and all things contrary TO HIM .
SHHHH , can you hear what i just felt .
TOTAL PEACE . oh the abundant life sure is great .
NOTHING can move me . not threat of death . JESUS has me and HE conquered death .
SHHH , can you hear what i just felt . TOTAL peace .
THE PEACE that the world cannot give . THE PEACE that no matter
what comes against me in t his life , I WIN FOR JESUS WON and my end IS GOOD t hanks to HIM .
SHHH , randy can you hear that still small v oice yet .
THE VOICE that says THIS IS THE PEACE walk ye in it . THIS is the abundant life , walk ye in it .
THE LIFE that no matter what comes against it , no matter if one has mon ey or has it not
NO matter if one has persecutoins for JESUS
THEY have PEACE IN HIM . the peace , oh that lovely peace that no matter what is allowed to come against me
I HAVE JESUS so i have ALL I NEED . SHHH , do you hear it yet randy .
DO you hear it . THIS is the abundant life .
ITS NOT about money , its not about the easy path of acceptance .
ITS ABOUT KNOWING JESUS . And that no matt er what cometh agaisnt me
IT matters NOT if i lose all , because even if i do i have lost nothing . FOR MY ALL IN ALL IS JESUS
and can NO MAN , NO not even death seperate me FROM HIM . oh randy i get more and more peace
EVEN as i type this to you . CAN you hear it . DO you KNOW IT . bible time randy . i already told you the best versions .
 
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Revelation 3:10
Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

1 Thessalonians 5:9
God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ

NOT appointed unto wrath actually means: NOT appointed unto wrath whether it's God's wrath or the devil's wrath.

Some believe they will be going through the most terrible and destructive time on earth in all the history of mankind and so according to their faith it shall be done unto them.
1 Thessalonians 5:1-11 – "But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. Therefore let us not sleep, as [do] others; but let us watch and be sober. For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night. But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation. For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him. Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do."

I think the context provides what wrath is being spoken of in regards to our escape. The wrath we escape is the day of the Lord, the sudden destruction that comes upon all who don't escape. But we are not in darkness that it should overtake us, whether we are dead or alive at His coming, when He comes to tread the winepress of the wrath of God, we will be caught up to Him prior to that wrath beginning.

I think scripture makes many distinctions between the Dragon's wrath on God's people and God's wrath on the Dragon's people. They are mutually exclusive because the source and destinations for each are polar opposites.

However, to the overall point of Revelation 3:10 and escaping the hour of temptation, that is also true because 99% of Christians don't live in Judea and that is where the hour of temptation will begin, worship the false god or die, save mortal life and lose eternal or lose mortal and save eternal.

But Yeshua's return is tied to faithful Israel being saved out of this time and protected for 1,260 days in the wilderness, meaning His coming is in the midst of the 70th week of Daniel, 30 days at most after the abomination of desolation. Christians around the world will be caught up before that spreads globally, meaning that while objectively the tribulation has started, for the church around the world it has not yet arrived and they will be removed from the earth before it.

The precision of scripture is there for a reason and when we examine the details and let the words speak for themselves, a picture comes into view that makes sense of what many fight over not looking into the details. With the Dragon focused in Judea and only 30 days between the abomination of desolation and Yeshua's return ending the first phase of the unparalleled time of Jacob's trouble in Judea, all the pieces fit and subjective pre-trib is true for most while objective mid-trib/pre-wrath is also true and objective phase 1 post-trib is also true. Details mean everything in understanding.
 

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I don't see any scripture references where the Lord promises victory.

Got any of those? Or just a bunch of feel good talk?
your kidding me right . I just told you of the victory randy .
The victory over death .
The victory of overcoming by faith .
YOU SEE JAMES as a failure and yet do not realize that you do .
YOU see paul as a failure and yet do not realize that you do .
YOU see steven as a failure and yet do not realize that you do .
YOU SPEAK of victory but know not what IS VICTORY .
SHHHH , listen
SHHHH , rest for a moment and hear TRUE VICTORY .
FOR it is not what YE THINK IT IS .
Our victory BE IN JESUS .
And let us be faithful in HIM to the end .
I have somet hing to tell you randy . But before i do
let me ask you , since you said you seen nothing about victory in what i said
RANDY DAWSON what do you SEE as victory .
I Am not here to condmen . answer please . What do YOU see as victory and as being victorious .
ONCE you answer i will show you something . Now as i always say to all
DO test all t hings .
 
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I think scripture makes many distinctions between the Dragon's wrath on God's people and God's wrath on the Dragon's people.

We are not appointed unto wrath whether it be God's wrath or the devil's wrath.

Some seem to think there is no protection from satan's wrath so according to their faith it shall be done unto. them.



your kidding me right . I just told you of the victory randy .

But you didn't post any promises from God's Word.
You provided a little happy talk, but no Words from the Lord.

I notice in most of your posts you don't provide very many scripture references.
Post 'em if ya got 'em!
 

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YOU SEE JAMES as a failure and yet do not realize that you do .
YOU see paul as a failure and yet do not realize that you do .
YOU see steven as a failure and yet do not realize that you do .

Do you base your faith on what others have experienced?

Or do you base your faith on God's promises? What God says?
 
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19 For in those days shall be affliction such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created until this time, neither shall be.

20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved; but for the elect’s sake, whom He hath chosen, He hath shortened the days.

21 And then if any man shall say to you, ‘Lo, here is Christ!’ or, ‘Lo, He is there!’ believe him not;

22 for false christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.

23 But take ye heed; behold, I have foretold you all things.

24 “But in those days, after that tribulation, ‘the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,

25 and the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.’

26 And then shall they see the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.

27 And then shall He send His angels and shall gather together His elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.

Post trib rapture is what Christ taught, and there is only one rapture taught by Christ and it is at the return of Christ
Which part of the tribulation, the first or second phase?

Jeremiah 30:4-7, Daniel 12:1, Matthew 24:15-22, and Mark 13:14-20 all speak of an unparalleled time of Jacob's trouble in Judea. This is explicitly Hebrew in context and in the area of Judea. You can't have 3 times that are unparalleled in all of history, cut short for the sake of those going through it, and tied to Israel that are different. Therefore, all 3 times are speaking of the same time.

This parallels Revelation 12:13, when the faithful woman Israel is persecuted by the Dragon upon his being cast out. But she is saved out of this time and protected in the wilderness for 1,260 days, 3.5 years.

Yeshua's return to save her out of this time as depicted in Zechariah 14:4-5 where she is told to flee through the valley of the mountains parallels with her flight in Revelation 12:14-16 where the earth swallows up the Dragon's flood just like the Red Sea swallowed up the Pharaoh's flood.

This is the first phase of the great tribulation, and it is this unparalleled time in Judea that Yeshua said He would return immediately after. The "tribulation of those days" is speaking to Matthew 24:15-28, the unparalleled time cut short for the sake of the elect. We see this transition in Revelation 12:17 too, where after the woman is protected in the wilderness from the Dragon and his flood swallowed up by the earth, his attention turns to her remnant and those holding the testimony of Christ. Since all those in Judea are now gone, that attention is turned outside Judea, the world.

But there's still 1,230 days or so of the Beast's 1,260 day reign, Israel is protected in the wilderness for 1,260 days still. The great tribulation isn't over, just the first unparalleled time of Jacob's trouble in Judea part of it.

So it is post-trib in that sense the time in Judea is over, but it's mid-trib in the sense that the Dragon still has another 1,230 days of wrath to go and those left behind at His coming are going to be cast into great tribulation as foolish virgins without a relationship with Yeshua. They will still be put to proof in the hour of temptation, but will likely die with the promise of resurrection in His kingdom to reign with Him.
 

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you speak of the end result of exactly where its headed .
But lets go back up to an earlier part of your writing . you said and no love .
You mean to say NO LOVE OF GOD .
cause how do you think these abominations have g rown so wild to now be accepted .
HOW do you think it was possible to even convince christendom of a false gospel .
OH IT was by love . ONLY IT was the love of a harlot padnah .
NIMROD is king ecuemincal inclusivian .
and his message of love has turned this people of the world , of the false relgoins
of athiest and of wicans , and of christendom
TO a lov e that has them now so hard , harder than ever before , and its against GOD , HIS CHRIST
and HIS WORDS and his FUDAMENTAL sheep baby .
OH , when you saw the word fundamental , perhaps even you saw the word extremist .
NO SIR .
WE were always supposed to have been FUNAMENTAL TO THE DOCTRINE OF ChRIST .
You really need to go to inteafith sections
YOU really need to see what also evangelicals , liberals , atheist and all are now starting
to see as a means of peace in this world .
And i bet ten trillion dollars even the adventist church is already UNDER its sway .
LA madre of mintidas ye muerte canta palabras de el am ore de muerte .
That HO has sung baby . She has infiltrated all realms with her love song .
And her peace be of anti christ .
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your kidding me right . I just told you of the victory randy .
The victory over death .
The victory of overcoming by faith .
YOU SEE JAMES as a failure and yet do not realize that you do .
YOU see paul as a failure and yet do not realize that you do .
YOU see steven as a failure and yet do not realize that you do .
YOU SPEAK of victory but know not what IS VICTORY .
SHHHH , listen
SHHHH , rest for a moment and hear TRUE VICTORY .
FOR it is not what YE THINK IT IS .
Our victory BE IN JESUS .
And let us be faithful in HIM to the end .
I have somet hing to tell you randy . But before i do
let me ask you , since you said you seen nothing about victory in what i said
RANDY DAWSON what do you SEE as victory .
I Am not here to condmen . answer please . What do YOU see as victory and as being victorious .
ONCE you answer i will show you something . Now as i always say to all
DO test all t hings .
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What I find really hard to understand about the pre-tribulation rapture theory is that the Bible clearly reveals the sequence of events surrounding the return of Jesus Christ. Let’s check out this sequence of events: Christ returns at the seventh trumpet—the last trumpet. The Antichrist returns at the 6th trumpet. And what’s he doing? He’s in Jerusalem, and he’s claiming to be God! Paul lays out the order in a way that makes it clear who appears first:

2 Thes. 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto Him …

The passage is about Christ’s second coming and our being gathered to Him.

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

Paul is telling them not to become confused or misled about the timing of Christ’s return.

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Paul is saying that Christ will not return until the apostasy has taken place and the Antichrist, the “man of sin,” which is the son of perdition (Satan), has been revealed.

4. Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Satan is the Antichrist, the false messiah, and he will present himself in a way that persuades people he is the true Messiah. (Remember, he will be supernatural, performing all manner of supernatural wonders and miracles.) Again, this will occur at the sixth trumpet, before Christ returns.
Matthew 24:29-31 – "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other."

Revelation 6:12-17 – "And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?"

If Yeshua says He comes at the sixth seal, then how could He return at the seventh trumpet if John is also shown that the seven angels aren't handed their trumpets until the seventh seal is broken?

Revelation 8:1-2 – "And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour. And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets."

There must be a time before Armageddon where the Lord returns at the sixth seal like He said, prior to any of the trumpets. And this aligns with His return to save Israel in Judea out of the unparalleled time and catch away His bride after the tribulation has started in Judea, but before His coming causes it to re-focus on the rest of the earth. The woman is protected in the wilderness for 1,260 days, so His coming must be in the midst of the 70th week appointed to Israel and Jerusalem from what I see in scripture.
 

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Do you see my laying down . HECK NO i expose teh works of satan and his ecumeincal inclusive whore daughter .
I aint lying down bud . I am busy exposing . that ol harlot and her father dont scare me .
AND ITS NOT cause i think i am s tronger or etc than they .
ITS CAUSE JESUS , GOD , is with me and i do NOT fear what man can do to me .
Exposing a harlot is my duty .
exposing this anti christ interfaith is my duty .
And i know , i know some will say but amigo you cant stand Ecuemincalsm inclusvism interfaith .
So why on earth go to work exposing it .
AND that is the BEAUTY OF IT . I GETS TO POINT TO JESUS and put a boot upside the rump
of it all day long . I Expose darkness , i dont find common ground and seek the love of a harlot
and try and hug folks to hell by means of a false love that cometh always with a judge not
against all that expose sins and darkness . I dont sit under HOS
FOR HOS is what i expose . enjoy the rhyme randy .
AND go ahead and get a good laugh at what i wrote to you earlier
WE GOT FOLKS thinking ME AND YOU IS THE SAME MAN . I am sure that gonna shock you too .
@amigo de christo
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