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John 15:14-19, 1 Peter 2:9, Ephesians 1:11-14, +Who are the “elect”?
Who are the “elect”?
Right!Ok thanks, I’m not trying to trap you or anything just trying to understand the word.
according to matt 24:31 the gathering of the elect (members of Christ, or the church) happens after the second coming, so there is no rapture right?
Ok thanks, I’m not trying to trap you or anything just trying to understand the word.
according to matt 24:31 the gathering of the elect (members of Christ, or the church) happens after the second coming, so there is no rapture right?
Who are the “elect”?
! Thessalonians 4:13-17 is clearly, plainly, undeniably about the Second coming, the glorious Return of Jesus to reign as King of the world for the next 1000 years. As described in Revelation 20 and many other scriptures.That is a picture of the rapture, not the second coming!
Why does The earthly Jerusalem matter? Christ replaced david. Lk 1:32-33 the church replaced Israel. Mt 21:43 the heavenly Jerusalem replaced the earthly Jerusalem.
! Thessalonians 4:13-17 is clearly, plainly, undeniably about the Second coming, the glorious Return of Jesus to reign as King of the world for the next 1000 years. As described in Revelation 20 and many other scriptures.
Ephesians 1:5 "Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,"
"Predestined" means "from a prior time", or "required to do a certain thing" in the Greek text. You have a choice of loving God, or loving Satan. God will not interfere with your free will choice to chose Him or Satan. However, that person that proved himself during the overthrow of Satan, were "justified", or earned the right to be called "saints", from that first earth age.
Each soul comes from God, and enters an embryo at conception. This is why Jeremiah was a chosen one. "Before I formed thee in the belly I know thee; and before thou comest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet of nations." Jeremiah 1:5
"Sanctified" thee, is to "set aside, or apart for a purpose". Sins still have to be repented, and the price to pay for them still had to be made. To the predestined, and fore chosen, God can make life so miserable to those out of His will that they will repent. God has a perfect will, and God is always fair.
"And we know that all things work together for good, to them that love God, to them who are the called according to His purpose." Romans 8:28 This verse is directed to a certain people, with a condition attached. This applies to "them who are called according to His purpose." "His purpose" is called God's plan, and God's overall plan is the offering of Salvation to all. That plan includes the teaching of God's Word; to plant seeds to convict; to live our life for Him; and to go and speak where God leads you. God will use you as it pleases Him.
"For whom He did foreknow, He also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren." Romans 8:29 God knew you, and what you were in that first earth age; and then [in that first earth age] God prearranged our destiny for this age. That destiny is to make us conform, or be like His Son, Jesus Christ. Though Jesus is the first fruits to overcome death, there are many that have that victory over death, through Christ's death and resurrection.
"Moreover whom He did predestinate, them He also called: and whom He called: He also justified: and whom He justified, them He also glorified." Romans 8:30 "Justified" means "judged" in the Greek text; God judged them there in that first earth age, and that is why God can and does intercede in the chosen's ones lives. The justified are the priests of the Zadok in the millennium age of Ezekiel 40, for the word Zadok comes from the Hebrew word meaning "the just".
Certain of God's children stood against Satan in the first earth age, and those that did stand, and did not follow Satan; God judged [justified], and He "chose" them then to be used in His eternal plan. Through God's perfect plan, God "predestined", and "ordained" each of them to His purpose to be used in this flesh age. Each of these will also be used in the Millennium age as priests, or called the "Zadok".
When you become a Christian, and God has given you a working over, He is trying to wake you up. God is calling out a people, His people, the "Elect-chosen, and predestined" to stand against the Antichrist [Satan] in this final generation.
"What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?" Romans 8:31 "What things"? The things mentioned in verses 27-30. The knowledge that God has judged the overcomers, and chose them for the purpose of fulfilling His plan; then predestined those overcomers to a service, not only in this flesh age, but the millennium age to come. They will be the priests [Zadok] then.
nope just the same picture of the rapture.
Aren't they the people you go to the ballot box to vote for and who get the most votes?Who are the “elect”?
How can you say that,when scripture don't back you?Let's break it down.
I Thessalonians 4:13 "But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope."
What's the subject of this verse?
Did it say them which were raptured?No it did not!!!
Why would it, it hasn't happened yet!