Who are the chosen people of God ?

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Universal Jewish Encyclopedia page 474. "The Jewish religion, as it is today, traces it's descent, without a break, through all the centuries, from the Pharisees. The Talmud is the largest and most important single member of their literatute; the study which is essential for a real understanding of Pharisaism.The Law of the "jews" is not Mosaic it is Talmudic. The Bible of the Jews is the Talmud.

But you picked the wrong site to try to push this stuff ...to many on this site understand what God says about it.

God sends me where He wants me.

If you cant make your point in scripture ... then it just an opionion... we must weigh everything against Gods Word reguardless of whom says what

What I have written is both Biblically and Historically accurate and cannot be refuted.:study:

 

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(Christina;67586)
It is incorrect to assume that all those living in Judea at the time of Christ were Israelites, the truth is that the true Israelites were marginlised and persucuted by the Edomites who were not of the House of Israel.(Quote) ............You are speaking of the kenites/ tares that lived near among the Jews yes many were among the Pharisees /Saducees and were in fact responsable for enginering Christs death but you can not assume the are all Edomites... as Edom was scattered they were from many tribes including the cannites and others ..In the New Testament they are called tares and though we are told some are/will be claiming to be Jews .... Ishmael is the father of the Arabs I suggest The Palistians along with other Arab enemies of Judah and Israel who claim the same father Abraham, are in fact the N. Testament Kenites/ they are called "tares"Futher more I assure you there are just as many tares in Christianity, who also claim Abraham as their Father, as there are among Jews and Arabs ...What is their fruit ..they work against God and his people
It is known that Esau and his descendents mixed their Seed with Kenites (Seed of Cain).Jesus identifies all the Pharisees and scribes in Matthew 23:13, he does not divide or accuse some, He accuses them all and correctly identifies them as Herodians who were Edomites.Genesis 49:10 Moses wrote: "The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor a law-giver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be"Shiloh is the Messiah who gathered His people the Tribe of Judah and Israel, Jesus of course achieved this and all of Judah heard the voice of Jesus and were saved, the Pharisees not being Judah and practicing Talmudic babylonian Pharisiaism clashed with Jesus and His followers and disciples and crucified Him as the prophecy had foretold. The Tribe of Judah and Benjamin left the land of Judaea after the death of Christ, they became Christians.And this is proven by Hebrews 8:8-12 and foretold by Jeremiah 31:35-37.

 

[tomwebster]

(Cup-of-Ruin;67613)
It is known that Esau and his descendents mixed their Seed with Kenites (Seed of Cain).Jesus identifies all the Pharisees and scribes in Matthew 23:13, he does not divide or accuse some, He accuses them all and correctly identifies them as Herodians who were Edomites.Genesis 49:10 Moses wrote: "The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor a law-giver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be"Shiloh is the Messiah who gathered His people the Tribe of Judah and Israel, Jesus of course achieved this and all of Judah heard the voice of Jesus and were saved, the Pharisees not being Judah and practicing Talmudic babylonian Pharisiaism clashed with Jesus and His followers and disciples and crucified Him as the prophecy had foretold. The Tribe of Judah and Benjamin left the land of Judaea after the death of Christ, they became Christians.And this is proven by Hebrews 8:8-12 and foretold by Jeremiah 31:35-37.
So what about the other 10 tribes? What do you think happened to them? Are they gone?

 

[Christina]

(Cup-of-Ruin;67613)
It is known that Esau and his descendents mixed their Seed with Kenites (Seed of Cain).Jesus identifies all the Pharisees and scribes in Matthew 23:13, he does not divide or accuse some, He accuses them all and correctly identifies them as Herodians who were Edomites.Genesis 49:10 Moses wrote: "The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor a law-giver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be"Shiloh is the Messiah who gathered His people the Tribe of Judah and Israel, Jesus of course achieved this and all of Judah heard the voice of Jesus and were saved, the Pharisees not being Judah and practicing Talmudic babylonian Pharisiaism clashed with Jesus and His followers and disciples and crucified Him as the prophecy had foretold. The Tribe of Judah and Benjamin left the land of Judaea after the death of Christ, they became Christians.And this is proven by Hebrews 8:8-12 and foretold by Jeremiah 31:35-37.
No they didnt Judah and Benjamin and a few Levites remained a remnant to preserve the Law they are under a slumber they are one of the two sticks of Eze. 37 (Joseph being represented by the two largest tribes Ephraim and Manasa became the Christian nations)is the other stick both will be joined under Christ at his return15The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying, 16Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim and for all the house of Israel his companions: 17And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand. 18And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou meanest by these? 19Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand. 20And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes. 21And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land: 22And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all. This above verse gives you your time line .............When do we all have one King ............and we are no longer TWO nations (jew and Christain)23Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.

 

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(tomwebster;67614)
So what about the other 10 tribes? What do you think happened to them? Are they gone?
No the Bible tells us that God is in Covenant with the House of Israel and with the House of Judah - Hebrews 8:8-9. In Jeremiah 31:35-37 Lord God says He will not cast off the offspring of Israel, He has written on their hearts and they are Christians, He also promised and made Covenant with Abraham for the "Ten Tribes" to be gone or physically lost forever is impossible, in fact it is biblical and historically accurate to trace the "ten tribes" after Assyrian captivity into Europe were the were later to join their people "Gentiles" which means "Genteel" from "Genos" of noble race and like, of the same clan, so the meaning of "Gentiles" is those who are of the same clan or tribe, to be reunited, "grafted" (to be grafted onto same stock) in the body of Christ in their new lands which became Christendom, Christians today are true Israel and all Tribes woul;d be written in the "book of life' and accounted for.It si some study but it is possible to trace each of the Tribes and the Nations and people that they represent today. But the "Jews" are not Judah, they are of their father the devil and the 'synagogue of satan' Rev. 2:9. Jews claiming to be Israel is false claim as they are 'liars' and the truth is not in them, and being from Esau they are still trying to regain by any means possible the birthright that Esau lost.

 

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(Christina;67618)
No they didnt Judah and Benjamin and a few Levites remained a remnant to preserve the Law they are under a slumber they are one of the two sticks of Eze. 37 (Joseph being represented by the two largest tribes Ephraim and Manasa became the Christian nations)is the other stick both will be joined under Christ at his return
The Jewish Dispora of AD 70 and the the law of the Talmud, Judah and Benjamin kept the Mosaic Law which was given its correct application and interpretation by Jesus Christ, the law has been preserved and taken to the world by Christians, the "jews" practice Talmudic law, this is an undeniable fact that any Rabbi will confrim if they are not lying which they are allowed to do under Talmudic law.Judah and the the 'lost tribes' - 'gentiles' have already joined as the body of Christ.
15The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying, 16Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim and for all the house of Israel his companions: 17And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand. 18And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou meanest by these? 19Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand. 20And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes. 21And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land: 22And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all. This above verse gives you your time line .............When do we all have one King ............and we are no longer TWO nations (jew and Christain)23Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.
Yes but none of this refers to modern "Jews" just because they call themselves "Israel" does not make it true. True Israel are not the geographical state name d "Israel" Israel is the descendants of Jacob who are now Christians as they were to be given a new name Isaiah 62:1,2 and this was the restoration of Zion under the redeemer of Israel who is the Lord Jesus Christ "And said unto me, Thou art my servant, O Israel, in whom I will be glorified" Christ the Lord is Glorified by Christians but he is despised by "Jews" it is Christians who Isaiah says are Israel who took salvation and the gospel to the 'ends of the earth' and glorified Him.

 

[Christina]

then why dont you explain why the two Israel and Judah are always seperated in the scripture ... If they are the same people ... You are not distingishing between future and past so your facts maybe somwhat right its your context thats wrong...because you are trying to fit unfulfilled things into past context... rightly divide

 

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(Christina;67665)
then why dont you explain why the two Israel and Judah are always seperated in the scripture ... If they are the same people ... You are not distingishing between future and past so your facts maybe somwhat right its your context thats wrong...because you are trying to fit unfulfilled things into past context... rightly divide
Israel is the Kingdom and Judah is the Sceptre, Judah kept the Law of God until Christ came and Israel went into captivity in Assyria, God does not cast away His people, Israel left Assyria and crossed the Caucauses as recorded in the Assyrian Tablets and Ancient History books, Israel became many millions a vast multitude and pushed into Europe where they joined with other Shemitic decendants but fought or conquered Japhethic peoples, these 'lost tribes' of Israel became known as 'Gentiles'- 'of high noble birth', 'of a like kind', of a like tribe, clan'. Judah heard the voice of the Great Shepard "My sheep hear My voice" and were saved became Apostles and discipes of Christ - Christians.Judah were seperate still as they were Germans in modern times and the Old Royal Houses of Europe came out of old Germania until this day still the House of Windsor sits on the 'Stone of Destiny' and so it will be until He returns to claim what is His.

 

[cedarhart]

Judah is the Kingdom. Levite is the Preisthood. Christ came from both. The Kingdom has been preserved. The Levites? They are the true Israelites that never left. They are their own remnant.You are all correct in some way and I am no expert at any. However, I do know this. God needed ONE family out of all creation, to have their generations followed and their story told up to the Birth of Christ through their seed line. These families from this ONE line crossed over the river and became Hebrews. They were without a doubt "chosen" by God. Where some get confused, in my opinion, is that by this word, they surmize that it means "favorite". It does not. It means just that, chosen. "Selected" for a purpose. Just as the "Elect" are. The difference being, that the elect earned their being chosen. The 10 Tribes went east and north and Tea Tephi went west and then north. It is my opinion that there are remaining families from the original Judaic Tribe still in the Land of Israel. We must concede that the many members of the many tribes did intermarry. That's human nature when one is in the environment that supports this event. Therefore, the "Jew" as they have been titled, are as mixed as many of the caucasions are. However, some can still trace one's ancestry back to some of these tribes with sureity. Most cannot. But to attempt to separate societies into pigeon holes seems to be a fool's folly. We are told NOT to do this. Christ instructed this not to be done as we CANNOT separate the Tares from the Wheat. We are not able. If we attempt to take down the Tares, we just may by chance take down some of the wheat too.Supposition is acceptable when backed by Scripture, knowledge, and wisdom. But to guess and not have enough evidence to stand upon greatly weakens conjecture. To state that all Jews are from Satan's seedline is a hideous statement and not Scriptural. All Caucasions are not Nazis. Be very careful who and what group is singled out to take note of. That borders on judgement and often prejudice. When Christ spoke "you are of your father's seed, the devil........" He was specifically noting one particular group that had infiltrated the Priesthood at that time, the Kenites. However, they were not the only priests in the world as there were the true Levites.Common sense must prevail. Even as there are fakes today in Israel, there are purebreds also; just like anywhere else.

 

[Christina]

(quote) However, some can still trace one's ancestry back to some of these tribes with sureity. Most cannot. But to attempt to separate societies into pigeon holes seems to be a fool's folly. We are told NOT to do this. Christ instructed this not to be done as we CANNOT separate the Tares from the Wheat. We are not able. If we attempt to take down the Tares, we just may by chance take down some of the wheat too.Supposition is acceptable when backed by Scripture, knowledge, and wisdom. But to guess and not have enough evidence to stand upon greatly weakens conjecture. To state that all Jews are from Satan's seedline is a hideous statement and not Scriptural. All Caucasions are not Nazis. Be very careful who and what group is singled out to take note of. That borders on judgement and often prejudice. When Christ spoke "you are of your father's seed, the devil........" He was specifically noting one particular group that had infiltrated the Priesthood at that time, the Kenites. However, they were not the only priests in the world as there were the true Levites.Common sense must prevail. Even as there are fakes today in Israel, there are purebreds also; just like anywhere else. (quote)Exactly Cedarhart Its why Kennites are called tares in the N.T. we can no longer identify them as you have said they scattered among the Wheat and we can not separate the wheat from the Chaff(tares) that is Gods job and he tell us in his parables he will take care of the separating

 

[n2thelight]

On the sixth day God CREATED all the peoples, tribes, races, ethnics (ethnos’), on the earth (White, Black, Hispanic, Oriental, ...), male AND female He CREATED them. God saw that they were all VERY good {Gen 1:31}, and He rested on the seventh day. On the next day (the eighth) God FORMED Adam in the Garden of Eden (and took Eve from him) for a very special reason. The peoples of the earth, all the different peoples, were incapable of living up to God’s standards of sinlessness. So God FORMED Adam to be the great Patriarch of the redemption of mankind. And 4000 years later, from Eve, umbilical cord through umbilical cord would be born Mother Mary, through who, by the gifting of the Holy Spirit of God would be born the Messiah of ALL MANKIND who would believe upon Him. Jesus was the Son of God in the strictest genealogical way. For God FORMED Adam (‘eth ha-adaam = this very particular man Adam) in His own express image. Then from that man Adam God made Eve. So as we see, they were both in that 'likeness' of God even though one be male and one be female, they were become one in marriage. Then through time and 4000 years of childbirth within that family unit: From Adam to Eve to Able who was killed, then to Seth...Eber (Hebrews name came from him)...Abraham, Isaac, Jacob (name changed to Israel by God)...Judah & Levi...David...Mother Mary - would be born the Messiah Jesus Christ by the Holy Spirit of God. Jesus was one unbroken physical seed from God {Gen 3:15}. It is this Jesus that is the Savior to the world, not only Israel from Adam, but also the gentiles from the sixth day creation. Look at it this way: God through Adam through Eve through Mother Mary + the Holy Spirit of God = Jesus Christ, God manifested in the flesh (Emmanuel - God with us). In the Old Testament we had a man in Christ’s genealogy named Eber {Gen 11:16} (spelled Heber in N.T. {Luke 3:35}). From him we get the name Hebrews. Then in the process of time, through Heber’s family we came to Abraham, who begat Isaac, who begat Jacob. Now God changed Jacob’s name to Israel and he had 12 sons. These twelve sons are the Patriarchs (founding fathers) of the Twelve Tribes of Israel. There was no such thing as Israel in the Bible until these twelve sons were born (approx. 1775-1728 B.C.). And God changes Jacob's name to Israel in (Gen 32:28 - approx.1739 B.C.). So prior to this the family of Adam (Formed in 4004 B.C.) was God’s chosen and it was they whom through the promise was to come. And by 'chosen' I mean that through them God would save ALL peoples. God loves all His children! Please do not read racism or anti-Semitism into this, there is no racism or anti-Semitism with God’s Word, but satan so loves to plant seeds of discord, so resist the temptation to be used in this manner (race baiting).In the process of time these Twelve Tribes had a rift, and the split into two Kingdoms:The Southern Kingdom:Consisted of two of the tribes (Judah and Benjamin) and were called Judah with their capital in Jerusalem.Judah punished:Because of idolatry, God also punished Judah, and the Two Tribe Southern Kingdom Judah was taken into captivity by the Babylonians. In 477 B.C.* Nebuchadnezzar took Jerusalem and destroyed the Temple of God (the same location of the Temple Mount in modern Israel). At this time there are still no Jews, there is only the Kingdom of Judah. ‘Jew’ is a term that we will explain later, but for now understand that it is a religious designation and not a national identifier. In other words, contrary to popular misconception, you are not born a Jew but become one by that particular brand of religion (Judaism). More on that later. [ *all dating as per Companion Bible by E.W. Bullinger] The Northern Kingdom:Consisting of the other Ten Tribes were called Israel and their capital was at Samaria.Israel punished:Because of idolatry, God punished Israel, and The Ten Tribe Israel nation was taken into captivity by the Assyrians and Israel became a province of Assyria in 611 B.C.* and the people Israel dropped out of the Biblical narrative and profane history as well for the most part. They became not a people (lo-ammi). In the process of time SOME of the Kingdom of Judah were allowed to return to Jerusalem, most did not. So this small contingent of the Tribe of Judah stayed in Jerusalem and intermarried with the Babylonians, as well as the Edomites (sons of Esau Jacob/Israels’s brother by Isaac) and the Kenites (sons of Cain, which was the son of the serpent/satan {Gen 3:15}). These formed their own religion that was much different than the Old Testament religion of the Hebrews. These who are now called "Jews" added to the Old Testament Scriptures their own "Oral Law" called Talmud. This of course was a corruption of God’s Old Testament religion and the work of satan. It is these Jews that were in control of the Temple during Christ’s time, it is them that Christ so often chastised and rebuked, it is them that Jesus told:John 8:4444 Ye are of [progeny; Greek word #1537 ek (out of)] your father the devil [satan - the serpent in the Garden of Eden], and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning [Cain - Kenites], and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it [satan/serpent uttered first lie (Gen 3:4)]. (KJV) And it is them that killed the Son of God Jesus Christ by forcing the hand of pagan Rome. So today, when someone calls themselves a Jew they most likely aren’t, they are just ignorant to the preceding events. Not all of Israel or Judah are Jews and none of the Jews are Israel or Judah. It is these Jews that are in large number in modern day Israel (though there are also some true Judah and Israel there as well - they should be properly called Hebrews not Jews - but they don’t know this, it has been kept from them, they don’t know who they are, they have been betrayed by their parents ... parents ... parents). But all can be saved through Christ Jesus! So in a perversion of truth, these Jews call themselves the chosen of God but in fact are the offspring of Judah that intermarried with the heathen peoples and formed their own perverted religion that disobeys God at almost every turn. The Jewish Anti Defamation League (among others) has suppressed this type of information and labels those who teach it as "anti-Semitic" or "racist" to discredit them, hide the truth, and proliferate the apostasy away from God (though some racists take this teaching and equally in ignorance use it in hate, we are not among that group). But the term "anti-Semetic" is itself a misnomer, for those called "Jews" have very little if any Semitic blood in their veins and they have apostated into heathen religion and forsook God. They have more blood of Cain (Kenites) and the Edomites (Esua - Kaiser Jews of Russia) in their veins than blood of Israel or true Judah for that matter. Call it the fox in the hen house if you will. But NOT ALL HEBREW PEOPLE ARE JEWS, in fact, very very very few Hebrew peoples became Jews, and true Israel and true Judah know not who they are. Ok, so what happened to Israel, the Ten Tribe Northern Kingdom? Did they die off? God forbid, for had they, then God’s Word would have failed, for God promised Abraham that his seed should be as the sand of the sea for multitude:Gen 32:9-129 And Jacob said, O God of my father Abraham, and God of my father Isaac, the LORD which saidst unto me, Return unto thy country, and to thy kindred, and I will deal well with thee................(Gen 32:12) And thou saidst, I will surely do thee good, and make thy seed as the sand of the sea, which cannot be numbered for multitude. (KJV)

 

[n2thelight]

In the Bible, who Are The People Of The House Of Israel,the House Of Judah, The Jews, And The Kenites?The difference between the peoples of Israel, Judah, the Jews, and the Kenites (the sons of Cain, the first murderer) First of all, when studying Biblical history and prophecy, you mustn't confuse the House of Israel with the House of Judah. When you see the 'House of Israel' written of in the scriptures, it refers to the Ten Northern Tribes of Israel (now referred to as the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel). But when you see the 'House of Judah' spoken of, it refers to the Southern Kingdom consisting of peoples of the Tribes of Judah and Benjamin. Originally, when the Houses were still joined together, there were twelve Tribes. These Twelve Tribes became split into two Houses, one called the Northern Kingdom with it's Capitol at Samaria, and the other called the Southern Kingdom with it's Capitol at Jerusalem. To this very day they are split, with the Ten Northern tribes having lost all knowledge of their identity, as was prophesied of to happen in Scripture:Rom 11:2525 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. (KJV) But what ever became of Israel (the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel)? After a three years siege and the final fall of Samaria with it's becoming of an Assyrian Province in 611 B.C. (722 B.C. by profane history), Israel ceased to be and dropped out of history. But Israel (the Ten Lost Tribes) were never lost to God, they migrated North over the Caucasus Mountains (where we get our word 'Caucasian' from) and settled Europe, eventually populating Scotland, Ireland, Britain, Iceland, and ultimately crossing westward over the seas and established the Americas. Yes we are the descendants of the lost Northern Ten Tribes of Israel. We are the chosen people of God. Look around the world, who is the last light of hope in the world? That does not mean that we are Jewish, for as you see by the division of the original 12 tribes descended from Jacob/Israel; Judah is only one of those twelve tribes, and Jews are only a small portion of them who mixed with the heathen both physically and religiously. As of Jan 2, 2000, there are only 13 million Jews on the planet (as per www.adherents.com), that is less than 1% of the total global population which is 6,099,686,302 (6 billion plus) as of 4:04 EDT Oct 1, 2000 per Popclock™. But in God's covenant with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob He promised:Gen 13:1616 And I will make thy seed as the dust of the earth: so that if a man can number the dust of the earth, then shall thy seed also be numbered. (KJV)Gen 17:44 As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations. (KJV)Gen 28:1414 And thy seed shall be as the dust of the earth, and thou shalt spread abroad to the west, and to the east, and to the north, and to the south: and in thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed. (KJV)Gen 35:1111 And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins; (KJV)Gen 32:1212 And thou saidst, I will surely do thee good, and make thy seed as the sand of the sea, which cannot be numbered for multitude. (KJV) Rom 9:2727 Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved: (KJV) You do believe God don't you? I know you do. Well then, where are all these people now?!? Those that we now call 'Jews' today are only a portion of the true Tribe of Judah who have intermixed with their Babylonian captors, the heathen and profane descendants of Cain, the first murderer. In other words, all those of the tribe of Judah are not Jews, and none of the lost Ten Tribes are Jews. It is important to understand the differences so that you know who the Bible is speaking about in a particular verse. That is why in the New Testament, those who betrayed Christ and forced Pontius Pilot's hand into crucifying Jesus Christ were the High Jewish Priest Ca'-ia-phas and the Jewish Temple Hierarchy. They were corrupted both in morals and genealogy, and this explains why Jesus called them 'sons of Cain,' the son of the devil {Jn 8:44} whom was the first murderer in the Garden of Eden. Cain was not of the 12 tribes of Jacob (Israel and Judah combined), but his offspring, the Kenites, which means sons (offspring, no gender implied) of Cain, had intermixed with some of the true Tribe of Judah. These Kenites have mixed with all races and tribes of people on the earth. A Kenite is a descendant of Cain, the same Cain who was the first murderer in the Garden of Eden. Below is a definition from the Strong's Exhaustive Concordance:Kenite: Hebrew word #7017 Qeyniy (kay-nee'); or Qiyniy (1st Chron. 2:55) (kee-nee'); patronymic from Hebrew word #7014 (see below); a Kenite or member of the tribe of Kajin [Cain]:Cain: Hebrew word #7014 Qayin: As a proper noun, masculine: Cain = "possession"; the oldest son of Adam and Eve and the first murderer, having murdered his brother Abel. There are many books on the migrations of the Ten Tribes of Israel and our Ancestors, here are several that we feature and review in our Study Aids section that will document the above statements. These are ordering links, if you just want to read the review without necessarily getting the book, just click on Study Aids and you can read the review, and order there or just go directly to them here: Jacob's pillar, Stonehenge and Druidism, Traditions of Glastonbury, Celt, Druid and Culdee, Saint Paul in Britain, Discovery of Ancient America The reason we put all these links within the studies is to offer the ability to explore certain points raised that can take several pages, or even volumes, to fully document.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------"...and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the LORD shall name..." {Isa 62:2} The Old Testament Prophets told that God would change the name of His people. They would be named after Him. And by the name "Christians" they were named after God. Jesus, which in the Hebrew language is: Yehoshua, which means: Yehovah’s (God’s) Savior, Salvation of Yehovah (God). And with Christ, His followers are called Christ men, hence: Christians. So then, in the New Testament prophecies in the book of Revelation, Christians are Israel, God’s chosen, called by a new name (Isa 62:2 below), called by His name - Jesus Christ - Christ men - Christians.Isa 62:22 And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the LORD shall name. (KJV)Isa 62:1212 And they shall call them, The holy people, The redeemed of the LORD: and thou shalt be called, Sought out, A city not forsaken. (KJV)Isa 65:1515 And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord GOD shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name (KJV)Jer 33:1616 In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith she shall be called, The LORD our righteousness. (KJV)Acts 11:2626 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch. (KJV) This should clear up Revelation chapter seven where the 144,000 "sealed of Israel" are mentioned, they are Christians who, since the Assyrian captivity and deportations of 611 B.C. were stripped of their name Israel! As it is written, because of idolatry, God caused Israel to not know who they are, and the rest of the world is also ignorant as to who true Israel is todayeut 32:26 (God speaking)26 I said, I would scatter them [Israel] into corners [all corners of the world], I would make the remembrance of them to cease from among men (KJV) They (Israel) are mentioned in the New Testament though, for example, the book of James is written to them, written to us: "James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting." {James 1:1}. And again: "Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied." {1 Pet 1:1-2}.

 

[Cup-of-Ruin]

Greetings 'n2thelight' You have some good insight and I pray the Holy Ghost leads you furtherray4:. You have some error present in your comments, maybe that will become more apparent in the future.:study:

 

[jtartar]

(mikewood;67350)
:bible:First of all, the Jews are no longer the "Chosen Ones" and the reason that they were "chosen" can be found in the Bible and will be a surprise to most Americans. Judeo-Christianity teaches us that the Jews have some special relationship with God even though they murdered His prophets and killed the Son of God, Jesus Christ. We are just supposed to forget about the fact that almost all Jews consistently turned away from the teachings of God and ignored or even murdered His messengers. In John 8:44, Jesus tells the Jews "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own nature: for he is a liar, and the father of lies." In Revelations 2:9, an angel of God tells St. John "I know the slander of those who say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan." In Mark 2:17, in response to criticism from the Jewish elders, who complained that Jesus was spending time with lowly sinners, Jesus replied "They that are healthy have no need of a physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance." Why did God first focus on the Jews of all the races on the planet? Surely, God knew that the Jews would kill many of His prophets, and there was no doubt that the Jews would kill His Son. Was God trying to give us a warning about the true nature of the Jews to protect us so that we would keep them out of Christian lands or keep them from taking over our mass media and government? An even more clear explanation that wipes away the notion of Jews still being the "chosen people" appears in the Parable of the Vineyard. In Luke 20:9 through 20:17, Jesus explains in unmistakable clarity, the notion of who is chosen and who isn't: "Then began He to speak to the people this parable; A landlord planted a vineyard, and let it out to tenants, and went into a far country for a long time. And at the season he sent a servant to the tenants, that they should give him of the fruit of the vineyard: but the tenants beat him, and sent [him] away empty. And again he sent another servant: and they beat him also, and entreated [him] shamefully, and sent [him] away empty. And again he sent a third: and they wounded him also, and cast [him] out. Then said the lord of the vineyard, What shall I do? I will send my beloved son: it may be they will reverence [him] when they see him. But when the tenants saw him, they reasoned among themselves, saying, This is the heir: come, let us kill him, that the inheritance may be ours. So they cast him out of the vineyard, and killed [him]. What therefore shall the lord of the vineyard do unto them? He shall come and destroy these tenants, and shall give the vineyard to others."=20 Basically, the Parable of the Vineyard explains that the Jews were evil from the start. That God gave them a chance, and they murdered the people sent to them, namely the prophets and the Son of God, and that a new chosen people will be found because the first people were undeserving. The White Race accepted Christianity and clearly White people are the new chosen people, who have accepted God's Word, and who deserve to be "Chosen Ones". :bible:
mikewood, You are absolutely correct when you say the Natural, fleshly Jews are not God's chosen people any longer. They rejected Jesus the Messiah, the only one by whom all men MUST be saved. Jesus made it very clear to the Jews that God was no longer with them when he told them; LOOK, your House is abandoned to you. This House was the Temple, which was a symbol of God's presence during the time thed Jews were His chosen people, Matt 21:42-45,23:37,38. God did not reject the Jews, they rejected Him. From the time of Jesus death on, both Jews and people of the nations were allin the same condition, they needed to get revconciled to God. This process is explained clearly at Romans, the 11 th chapter, where both Jews ane gentiles had to be grafted onto the Olive tree, which pictured the Christian Congregation.:study:

 

[Jordan]

Jtartar,God put a slumber on the Jews for the age of the Gentiles. The Jews you speak of are not the Jews of Judah... The Jews who crucify Christ you speak of are the sons of Cain from Satan. The Jews of Revelation 2:9, Revelation 3:9Christians are non-Jews as they are from Israel. Judah are the Jews that the remnant of them will be saved.

 

[Carico]

First of all, the Jews are no longer the "Chosen Ones" and the reason that they were "chosen" can be found in the Bible and will be a surprise to most Americans. Judeo-Christianity teaches us that the Jews have some special relationship with God even though they murdered His prophets and killed the Son of God, Jesus Christ. We are just supposed to forget about the fact that almost all Jews consistently turned away from the teachings of God and ignored or even murdered His messengers.
Incorrect. Romans 9:6, "For not all who descended from Israel are Israel...In other words, it is not the natural children who are God's children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham's offspring."Romans 2:28, "A man is not a Jew if he is only one outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. A man is a Jew if he is one inwardly and circumcision is circumcision of the heart."So the real Jews are as chosen as the Gentiles who are also children of the promise.

 

[savedbygrace57]

The Jews are still God chosen people
No they are not, the Jews are a spiritual people rom 2:28For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

 

[Carico]

(savedbygrace57;68631)
No they are not, the Jews are a spiritual people rom 2:28For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
That means that the Jews are God's chosen people because false Jews are not real Jews. But the Jews that are real Jews are circumcised of the heart. They are God's chosen people.

 

[savedbygrace57]

That means that the Jews are God's chosen people because false Jews are not real Jews
Yes, I agree if your talking about spiritual Jews and not etnicity..

 

[chris redfield]

I thought God's chosen people are the ones following Him right now.