Who are the sons of God and the daughters of men

[ewq1938]

Yea be extreme I find humorous though the verse doesn't say boy or child but a man lol.

She said "'ı̂ysh" and it can mean a male baby, which is what she gave birth to.

 

[BeyondET]

She said "'ı̂ysh" and it can mean a male baby, which is what she gave birth to.

iysh but yeled would be proper I think if a new born. Since there's other names in Hebrew for child youth etc makes me wonder

Yeled ; child, son, boy, offspring, youth. child, son, boy; child, children; descendants; youth; apostate Israelites
https://www-biblestudytools-com.cdn...studytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/nas/yeled.html

 

[Timtofly]

Your false claim is that the "sons of God" are never angels. Job 2 proves you wrong, for those "sons of God" there which appeared IN HEAVEN before God's Throne, along with Satan, WERE ANGELS.

So you trying to bring in FODDER like the idea of humans is moot.

So you promote Satan as an angel?

That is your implication. Give me one verse that claims angels rule over mankind. That is what a council is. You are calling the 24 elders angels as well. You are saying when you are granted a reign with Christ you have become an angel, only because Satan is mentioned in the book of Job? That is a great take away from that book, no? You will be an angel someday?

 

[Davy]

So you promote Satan as an angel?

That is your implication. Give me one verse that claims angels rule over mankind. That is what a council is. You are calling the 24 elders angels as well. You are saying when you are granted a reign with Christ you have become an angel, only because Satan is mentioned in the book of Job? That is a great take away from that book, no? You will be an angel someday?

I don't "promote" Satan, period! So you know where you can stick that idea!

God created Satan as a covering cherub per the Ezekiel 28 parable.

How is it you don't understand what the word 'angel' means?

The word 'angel' is not about a specie of heavenly being, like the word cherub or zoon is.

The word 'angel' simply means 'messenger'.

The word angel is used about Satan in Revelation 9:11.

Jesus in The Old Testament is referred to as the Angel of The Lord at times. In Genesis 48:16, Jacob pointed to Jesus with the word "Angel". Doesn't mean an angel is a heavenly specie, it simply means a messenger.

Jesus is NOT an angel. He is God The Son, Immanuel (God with us).

So can the word 'angel' point... to heavenly beings? YES!!! And that includes the "sons of God" as angels too.

 

[Timtofly]

I don't "promote" Satan, period! So you know where you can stick that idea!

God created Satan as a covering cherub per the Ezekiel 28 parable.

How is it you don't understand what the word 'angel' means?

The word 'angel' is not about a specie of heavenly being, like the word cherub or zoon is.

The word 'angel' simply means 'messenger'.

The word angel is used about Satan in Revelation 9:11.

Jesus in The Old Testament is referred to as the Angel of The Lord at times. In Genesis 48:16, Jacob pointed to Jesus with the word "Angel". Doesn't mean an angel is a heavenly specie, it simply means a messenger.

Jesus is NOT an angel. He is God The Son, Immanuel (God with us).

So can the word 'angel' point... to heavenly beings? YES!!! And that includes the "sons of God" as angels too.

Then stop calling the sons of God "angels". You are the one making angels a "species".

The only reason you call the sons of God angels is because a created angel, Satan was mentioned. Satan is the only angel in Job. The sons of God are not angels. The sons of God are not messengers, either. The sons of God are mankind created on the 6th day.

Using the word angel is talking about the heavenly hosts in the firmament. Just like human refers to those created to live on earth and have dominion over creation on earth.

Do you deny that humans can exist in heaven before the throne of God? Do you deny Revelation 4?

 

[ewq1938]

iysh but yeled would be proper I think if a new born.

iysh is also proper for a newborn. No one can take you seriously that Eve could have given birth to an adult man. What is wrong with you?

 

[BeyondET]

iysh is also proper for a newborn. No one can take you seriously that Eve could have given birth to an adult man. What is wrong with you?

What is wrong with you Hebrew has a word for child boy.

It's like a English speaker saying my wife gave birth to a man it is not proper if the thought is the wife gave birth through the womb.

Now I don't quite know why the original writer didn't use yeled it was in the Hebrew vocabulary and is proper about describing a new born child not a man.

 

[ewq1938]

What is wrong with you Hebrew has a word for child boy.

So? Languages have different words that can be used, not just one word.

 

[BeyondET]

So? Languages have different words that can be used, not just one word.

So do Jewish people call their new born baby a man by saying the word iysh or yeled.

 

[ewq1938]

So do Jewish people call their new born baby a man by saying the word iysh or yeled.

Either is a correct choice.

 

[Blue Dragonfly's]

Genesis 6:1-8
When human beings began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. 3 Then the Lord said, “My Spirit will not contend with humans forever, for they are mortal; their days will be a hundred and twenty years.”

4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.

5 The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time. 6 The Lord regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled. 7 So the Lord said, “I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created—and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground—for I regret that I have made them.” 8 But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord.


Many people believe that the sons of God were fallen angels who fornicated and had children with female human beings thus making the world so evil that God decided to destroy civilization. Could this really be? Could spiritual being really fornicate with human beings even though Paul taught us that heavenly bodies have a different splendor than human bodies in 1 Corinthians 15? Would God really allow this to happen? I believe not

I believe that the sons of God were the faithful line of God and that the daughters of men were the daughters of the unfaithful line of Cain.

In the previous chapters of Genesis we see that the descendants of Seth were faithful to God while the descendants of Cain were not. All we hear about the descendants of Cain is the great accomplishments they made but Seth's descendants were great men of God. The earth seamed quite peaceful up until this time so what changed?

God constantly warns the faithful to not dwell with the unfaithful throughout the Old Testament and there is a reason for this which is to keep the faithful from being corrupted. We read that the sons of God were only attracted to the daughters of men because they are beautiful not because they loved them so the reason why they fornicated with them was for lust not love.

Over time while dwelling with the unfaithful the faithful conformed to the ways of the unfaithful until the faithful came down to just one man Noah. The ways of the Lord was lost and the offspring of these people lived for themselves not for the Lord as the whole world became filled with wickedness and this was the reason that God decided to destroy almost all of the human race with the great flood.

God protected the line of the faithful and continued to do so throughout the bible. I believe that this kind of serves as warning to the church and will be the same reason that God will destroy the human race in the future by fire as the church is slowly conforming to the ways of the world.

The Sons of God were the giants in scripture. The Nephilim, fallen angels.
The daughters of man were Iman females.

The Book of Enoch speaks of this.

 

[quietthinker]

Who are the sons of God and the daughters of men
I am a Son of God and my female children are daughters of men

 

[Timtofly]

Who are the sons of God and the daughters of men
I am a Son of God and my female children are daughters of men

Don't your children get their own choice to be Sons of God? That "daughters of men" was referring to all offspring of Adam. Adam did declare Eve the mother of all living. The feminine aspect of Adam's offspring was being portrayed.

 

[RLT63]

Genesis 6:1-8
When human beings began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. 3 Then the Lord said, “My Spirit will not contend with humans forever, for they are mortal; their days will be a hundred and twenty years.”

4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.

5 The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time. 6 The Lord regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled. 7 So the Lord said, “I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created—and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground—for I regret that I have made them.” 8 But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord.


Many people believe that the sons of God were fallen angels who fornicated and had children with female human beings thus making the world so evil that God decided to destroy civilization. Could this really be? Could spiritual being really fornicate with human beings even though Paul taught us that heavenly bodies have a different splendor than human bodies in 1 Corinthians 15? Would God really allow this to happen? I believe not

I believe that the sons of God were the faithful line of God and that the daughters of men were the daughters of the unfaithful line of Cain.

In the previous chapters of Genesis we see that the descendants of Seth were faithful to God while the descendants of Cain were not. All we hear about the descendants of Cain is the great accomplishments they made but Seth's descendants were great men of God. The earth seamed quite peaceful up until this time so what changed?

God constantly warns the faithful to not dwell with the unfaithful throughout the Old Testament and there is a reason for this which is to keep the faithful from being corrupted. We read that the sons of God were only attracted to the daughters of men because they are beautiful not because they loved them so the reason why they fornicated with them was for lust not love.

Over time while dwelling with the unfaithful the faithful conformed to the ways of the unfaithful until the faithful came down to just one man Noah. The ways of the Lord was lost and the offspring of these people lived for themselves not for the Lord as the whole world became filled with wickedness and this was the reason that God decided to destroy almost all of the human race with the great flood.

God protected the line of the faithful and continued to do so throughout the bible. I believe that this kind of serves as warning to the church and will be the same reason that God will destroy the human race in the future by fire as the church is slowly conforming to the ways of the world.

Why would they have children who were giants, mighty men, men of renown?

 

[quietthinker]

Don't your children get their own choice to be Sons of God? That "daughters of men" was referring to all offspring of Adam. Adam did declare Eve the mother of all living. The feminine aspect of Adam's offspring was being portrayed.

....and Adam was the son of God.

 

[ewq1938]

....and Adam was the son of God.

Gen 6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
Gen 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Here we see men and their daughters contrasted with the Sons of God. Clearly the Sons of God are not men.

 

[quietthinker]

Gen 6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
Gen 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Here we see men and their daughters contrasted with the Sons of God. Clearly the Sons of God are not men.

ohhhh, I would go so far as too say 'Sons of God' are not men. Wasn't Adam God's son?

Luke runs the genealogy of Jesus in in his account in Luke 3:21-38. I note vs 38....here it is;
......38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

 

[ewq1938]

ohhhh, I would go so far as too say 'Sons of God' are not men. Wasn't Adam God's son?

Adam wasn't alive in Gen 6.

 

[quietthinker]

Adam wasn't alive in Gen 6.

well......, sure, he was worm food.....but either were you......but thats not the point. Luke is asking us to get the point as does Paul in Romans 5:12-21.
I won't print it here; if you're curious/serious you can look it up :)

 

[ewq1938]

well......, sure, he was worm food.....

Humans are represented by the word "men" in the verse. Clearly the Sons of God are meant to be others and not surprisingly, the OT always uses the term "Sons of God" for angels. The fact that the NT speaks of fallen angels as having left their habitation and sinned and for women to be wary of angels further strengthens that the "Sons of God" in Genesis 6 is angels.