Who do you think will win Trump or Biden or Kanye?

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Who will win Trump or Biden or Kanye?

  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 35 85.4%
  • Joe Biden

    Votes: 4 9.8%
  • Not sure

    Votes: 2 4.9%
  • Kanye West

    Votes: 0 0.0%

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Yehren

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We agree with each other that there is certainly some concern with Trump. He was the oldest U.S. President to take office for years ago. If he wins again he will be the oldest President we've ever had by far. But do you really think we're going to be in better shape if Biden wins?

I'm looking at the way the two of them are in public. Biden surely does much better than Trump, who is often confused, slurs words, and has difficulty holding a water glass. Suggesting that people should inject disinfectant to "clean lungs" was so bizarre as to cause even his supporters concern.

Biden's public appearances are confident and focused. So there is that. Biden's proposals for the pandemic are based in science with no weird fantasies.

And Biden doesn't get confused at the end of the day, as Trump frequently does. Lots of old people remain sharp long after 70. My Mom was still doing tax work into her late 80s, and was very good at it.

[QUOTE ]Doesn't it concern you that the current chair of the DNC has very close ties to George Soros?[/quote]

I know a lot of people on the right are angry that he escaped the Holocaust. But they are mostly the extreme right, not typical of all conservatives. It's the white nationalists who are trying to make a demon out of him, not rational conservatives.

Why would we want even more of the rioting and destruction going on in this country in the future?

It's one of the reasons people have lost confidence in Donald Trump. He's aggravated the problem.
 
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Yehren

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Yeah, I've had enough with the garbage nonsense there. Someone who uses a video game fictional animated character as a personal profile picture is deemed not old enough to vote.

I was deemed old enough to vote when voting age was 21. You really, really missed that one.

But they are young enough to work for the Left wing rhetoric machine.

There are lots of honest people who are not left wing. It's just that Trump has run all of them off by now.

Calling me a liar, well, that's just stupid.

If you called yourself a liar, then one of us did. If you honestly believe Trump's lies, what you're saying is not lying. But Trump is lying.
 

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I know a lot of people on the right are angry that he escaped the Holocaust. But they are mostly the extreme right, not typical of all conservatives. It's the white nationalists who are trying to make a demon out of him, not rational conservatives.


You're kidding. Yehren, just follow where the money goes. Look at the history of where the Open Society Foundation invests its funding. It is invariably pro-abortion, pro-illegal immigration, pro-national health care, pro-drug legalization, pro-Big Government, anti-Israel and anti-America.

You're an intelligent man. How do you not see he is pushing an agenda?
 
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You're kidding. Yehren, just follow where the money goes. Look at the history of where the Open Society Foundation invests its funding. It is invariably pro-abortion, pro-illegal immigration, pro-national health care, pro-drug legalization, pro-Big Government, anti-Israel and anti-America.

You're an intelligent man. How do you not see he is pushing an agenda?
Open Society Foundations (OSF)
 
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Yehren

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And since the "Secret Service made me hide in the Bunker" story wasn't doing so well, Trump has come up with a new one:

Trump Claims He Went To White House Bunker During Protests ‘For An Inspection’

“I went down, I looked at it,” the president said of his time in the underground Presidential Emergency Operations Center.
President Donald Trump on Wednesday denied that he was rushed to a White House bunker during anti-racism protests last week out of concern for his safety, claiming he had merely dropped by the underground shelter to inspect it.


“I was there for a tiny, little short period of time,” Trump said during a radio interview with Fox News’ Brian Kilmeade. “And it was much more for an inspection.”


He continued: “I’ve gone down two or three times ― all for inspection. And you go there, some day you may need it. ... I went down, I looked at it.”

President Trump on the Brian Kilmeade Show

I'm thinking this one isn't going to fare very well, either. Especially after all those crazy fantasies about "car bombs."





 

Yehren

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You're kidding. Yehren, just follow where the money goes. Look at the history of where the Open Society Foundation invests its funding. It is invariably pro-abortion, pro-illegal immigration, pro-national health care, pro-drug legalization, pro-Big Government, anti-Israel and anti-America.

I'm thinking the white nationalists who are furious with him ("the Jew who escaped") are the ones who are "anti-American." We'll just have to disagree on that.

You're an intelligent man. How do you not see he is pushing an agenda?

Everyone has an agenda. Some just deny it. The agenda of those attacking him have dreams of a "Jew-free America."
Antisemitism forms the theoretical core of White nationalism. Let me explain.

To recognize that antisemitism is not a sideshow to racism within White nationalist thought is important for at least two reasons. First, it allows us to identify the fuel that White nationalist ideology uses to power its anti-Black racism, its contempt for other people of color, and its xenophobia—as well as the misogyny and other forms of hatred it holds dear. … What is this arch-nemesis of the White race, whose machinations have prevented the natural and inevitable imposition of White supremacy? It is, of course, the Jews. Jews function for today’s White nationalists as they often have for antisemites through the centuries: as the demons stirring an otherwise changing and heterogeneous pot of lesser evils...

The White nationalist movement that evolved from it in the 1970s was a revolutionary movement that saw itself as the vanguard of a new, Whites-only state. This latter movement, then and now, positions Jews as the absolute other, the driving force of White dispossession—which means the other channels of its hatred cannot be intercepted without directly taking on antisemitism.
A Brief History and Update on Antisemitism
 

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Why would we want even more of the rioting and destruction going on in this country in the future?
The answer is quite simple. Since the Leftists and Democrats have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to offer America, their only option is to tear it down and replace the Constitution with a Marxist-Leninist Manifesto, which includes a huge dose of Fascism. And that requires rioting and anarchy in the streets. Antifa has published a handbook to help people destroy America. But their tentacles extend throughout the Western world. They would be locked up in a hurry in Cuba or China or Russia.

Just take a close look at all the Democratic presidential candidates and what they had to offer. Absolutely nothing. Then look at an avowed Communist -- Bernie Sanders -- and the fact that he was actually allowed to run as a Democrat and would have been nominated if there had been no underhanded plot to remove him at the end.

Then look at pathetic Joe Biden -- who belongs in a nursing home -- but is being promoted for the highest office in the land. It should be obvious to the most stupid person that if indeed Biden were elected, he would be bumped off (one way or another) and evil Hillary Clinton would finally get her heart's desire. Which is to destroy America and enrich herself. And all of this is supported by the blatantly Leftist media, who also have the same agenda.

The whole Leftist conspiracy is a SATANIC CONSPIRACY to steal, kill, and destroy, and eventually send of these servants of the devil to Hell.
 

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Everyone has an agenda. Some just deny it. The agenda of those attacking him have dreams of a "Jew-free America."
Antisemitism forms the theoretical core of White nationalism. Let me explain.

To recognize that antisemitism is not a sideshow to racism within White nationalist thought is important for at least two reasons. First, it allows us to identify the fuel that White nationalist ideology uses to power its anti-Black racism, its contempt for other people of color, and its xenophobia—as well as the misogyny and other forms of hatred it holds dear. … What is this arch-nemesis of the White race, whose machinations have prevented the natural and inevitable imposition of White supremacy? It is, of course, the Jews. Jews function for today’s White nationalists as they often have for antisemites through the centuries: as the demons stirring an otherwise changing and heterogeneous pot of lesser evils...

The White nationalist movement that evolved from it in the 1970s was a revolutionary movement that saw itself as the vanguard of a new, Whites-only state. This latter movement, then and now, positions Jews as the absolute other, the driving force of White dispossession—which means the other channels of its hatred cannot be intercepted without directly taking on antisemitism.
A Brief History and Update on Antisemitism


Brother, don't take this the wrong way, but I think you're being intellectually dishonest at this point. 500,000 negative tweets are being made about the man daily right now. Surely it's not because all of them are anti-Semitic, White Nationals. I'm not anti-Semitic in the least, and if it weren't for the Lord I'd wanna drive over him with a truck... twice, LoL.
 

Hidden In Him

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evil Hillary Clinton would finally get her heart's desire.

Please don't say that. It's my deepest darkest fear, LoL. If she comes swooping in on her broomstick I think I'm gonna be sick...

And to avoid being continually sick I'm gonna have to throw the kitchen TV out the window cuz watching the news for the next 4 years will be absolutely intolerable for me.
 

Yehren

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Brother, don't take this the wrong way, but I think you're being intellectually dishonest at this point.

It's just a fact. Neo-nazis detest him.

500,000 negative tweets are being made about the man daily right now.

Yes, Surprisingly thousands of people. Lots of bot accounts. Mostly outraged by a wealthy Jewish-American. And there are some people who don't like him for political reasons, or because he advocates liberal ideas as millions of other Americans do. I suspect few of those are part of the craziness, though.

He's a Jewish multi-billionaire philanthropist who has given away $32bn. Why does the hard right from America to Australia and from Hungary to Honduras believe George Soros is at the heart of a global conspiracy, asks the BBC's Mike Rudin.

One quiet Monday afternoon last October in leafy upstate New York, a large manila envelope was placed in the mailbox of an exclusive country mansion belonging to multi-billionaire philanthropist George Soros.
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Inside the bubble-wrapped envelope was a photograph of Soros, marked with a red "X". Alongside it, a six-inch plastic pipe, a small clock, a battery, wiring and a black powder.

More than a dozen similar packages were sent to the homes of former President Barack Obama, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and other prominent Democrats.

\The FBI traced the bombs to a white van covered in pro-Trump and anti-Democrat stickers, parked in a supermarket car park in Florida.

Immediately the right-wing media claimed it was a "false-flag" operation intended to derail President Donald Trump and the Republican campaign, just two weeks before the crucial US mid-term elections.

Fox Business host Lou Dobbs tweeted: "Fake News - Fake Bombs. Who could possibly benefit by so much fakery?" Conservative talk radio host Rush Limbaugh added: "Republicans just don't do this kind of thing."
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Then a 56-year-old Florida man called Cesar Sayoc was arrested.

Conspiracy theories claimed he wasn't actually a Republican. But Luigi Marra, a former work colleague, told me how Sayoc used to deliver pizzas in his van plastered with pro-Trump stickers and argue with customers if they had Democratic posters at their homes.

"Everything for him was a conspiracy theory, everything. George Soros was the one behind everything, he was the one buying the whole Democratic Party, he was the epicentre of what is going wrong in the United States of America."

Sayoc's social media revealed more. On the day the pipe bomb was discovered at George Soros's house, Sayoc reposted a meme claiming, "The world is waking up to the horrors of George Soros."
Why is this billionaire a bogeyman for the hard right?

Crazy as all this sounds, there are thousands of white nationalists, and Trump supporters out there who believe all of it.


 

Yehren

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Who out there besides President Trump is going to put this economy back on it's feet?

Last time a republican made a mess of it, it was Barack Obama who got the economy going again. He's not available, but his VP is able to handle it. Trump can't even make a profit running a casino, so don't expect him to fix things. He's the one who got us in the mess.
 

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Last time a republican made a mess of it, it was Barack Obama who got the economy going again. He's not available, but his VP is able to handle it. Trump can't even make a profit running a casino, so don't expect him to fix things. He's the one who got us in the mess.
Wait and see.
 

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Nevertheless, the man who wrote the motto clearly understood the meaning and it's not what you thought it was.

Whether Jesus is Lord, people disagree. But the fact is, that motto is not "A New World Order."
News for you- its not about what I think it is or who thought up the motto, but rather HOW the Puppet Masters (banking elite) interpret it in their manifesting of the "Luciferian Doctrine" throughout the world.
We are now in the throes of the Latin words "ORDO AB CAO", meaning in English- "Order out of chaos".

Jesus is Lord!!
And surely, it will be a NWO, but on a global scale.
 

Yehren

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News for you- its not about what I think it is or who thought up the motto,

It matters what the man who wrote it, thought. Meaning comes from his intent.

but rather HOW the Puppet Masters (banking elite) interpret it in their manifesting of the "Luciferian Doctrine" throughout the world.

Show us your evidence for that, then.

We are now in the throes of the Latin words "ORDO AB CAO", meaning in English- "Order out of chaos".

The last few years are more like "chaos out of order."
 

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And there are some people who don't like him for political reasons, or because he advocates liberal ideas as millions of other Americans do.

Yes! There are millions of people who don't like his foundation funding policies that, as I stated earlier, are invariably pro-abortion, pro-illegal immigration, pro-national health care, pro-drug legalization, pro-Big Government, anti-Israel and anti-America. If you are not arguing with any of this, why are minimizing everyone who doesn't agree with such policies as being a Neo-NAZI? If you are arguing with this, what would be your reply regarding the link provided in Post #387?
 

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We are now in the throes of the Latin words "ORDO AB CAO", meaning in English- "Order out of chaos".

>Jesus is Lord!!
And surely, it will be a NWO, but on a global scale.<
Actually, in my words above, I mispoke.

My edit:
>And surely it will be a NWO (the Luciferian Doctrine), but on a global scale, instituted and manifested by the Banking Elite, aka Rothchild, Rockefeller, JP Morgan etc.
(Beware of their "Debt Jubilee").
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However, Jesus is Lord, and shall return from Heaven in all His Glory, in Firey vengeance, destroying all the kingdoms of man. 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10<
 

Yehren

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Yes! There are millions of people who don't like his foundation funding policies that, as I stated earlier, are invariably pro-abortion, pro-illegal immigration,

Abortion, I think yes. Which is why millions of Americans support him. Show me where he advocates illegal immigration. That seems to be a lie. But I'll see what you have before I say so. What do you have?

pro-national health care,

As are millions of Americans. Would you like to see that?

pro-drug legalization,

You think the "war on drugs" has been a success? Seriously? It's been a plague on America. And it hasn't reduced drug use, or made drugs harder to get. It's a complete failure.

pro-Big Government,

Like Donald Trump?

anti-Israel

Here's Soros on the difficulties Israel has in gaining security with regard to the Palestinians:

“There can be no settlement except with the organization that represents the people,” Soros writes. “I could see that my argument made an impression on [Rabin]. With this experience as background, I cannot help believing that an agreement reached with Hamas would be more enduring than one concluded with a Palestinian authority that does not enjoy the trust of the people. The agreement reached with Arafat did not last.”

Soros goes on to add that he realizes that this point stretches the imagination. “The chances of reaching an agreement with Hamas are practically nil. Hamas is not Solidarity: It is a militant Islamist organization and Israel is not in a mood to take chances. Yet I cannot help thinking that with skillful diplomacy there could be an opening to drive a wedge between the homegrown leaders of Hamas who won the election and have an obligation to the people of Palestine to improve their living conditions, and the expatriate leadership based in Syria and beholden to Iran.”
The Vilification of George Soros In Israel

Soros nails it here; to negotiate with Hamas has significant risks, but also an opportunity to drive a wedge between the Palestinians and their Iranian overlords by offering steps that could improve the living conditions of the Palestinians. It's exactly the best thing for Israel.


and anti-America.

Americans disagree with you. His ideas are essentially pro-American.

If you are not arguing with any of this, why are minimizing everyone who doesn't agree with such policies as being a Neo-NAZI?

Not everyone who mindlessly hates Soros is a neo-Nazi. I'm just pointing out that the hate campaign demonizing him was the work of neo-Nazis.

We—the panelists and moderator—stared at one another. We had disagreed about whether the threat of anti-Semitism was more serious from the left or the right, but the accusation that a Hungarian-born Jew who escaped the Holocaust was a Nazi was beyond reason. Whether or not they knew it, the people who applauded were echoing a vicious lie likely invented in the 1990s by known anti-Semite and conspiracy-spinner Lyndon LaRouche, Jr.
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If you are arguing with this, what would be your reply regarding the link provided in Post #387?

Soros is definitely liberal. But of course, that includes a lot of liberal supporters of Israel. None of it supports your claims.
 

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Wait and see.
The fact Obama destroyed the economy as an enemy of America, Jews and Christians, it is a miracle that this President corrected the Hell bound coarse. That is what happens with a Good led, God blessed, leader at the helm. It is also why Satanic Democrats on the Hill want to destroy all that was corrected, and send us plummeting down again. They will fail come November to unseat God's man and install that one aligned with the enemy. God blesses America and Donald Trump
 
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