Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

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Spiritual Israelite

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That word in the Hebrew simply means 'decreed'. But YOUR IDEA of what "determined" means is DIFFERENT than the Daniel Scripture, because YOU ADDED YOUR OWN IDEA INTO THE SCRIPTURE THAT IS NOT WRITTEN, SO WHAT'S THAT?

YOUR FALSE IDEA is that the whole symbolic 70 weeks MUST be CONTINUOUS, which no where in that Daniel 9 Scripture says that!!! That is YOUR SUPPOSITION you picked up from the Ellen White crowd.

So when I SHOWED YOU THE HUGE GAP between Lord Jesus' 1st coming, and His still future 2nd coming, you should have used your common sense to understand Christ's advents are directly TIED TO THAT SEVENTY WEEKS PROPHECY!

But NO, you'd rather be brainwashed by DEVILS and let them do your thinking for you instead.
Sure, go ahead and turn a determined/designated 490 year time period from beginning to end into at least a 2,500 year time period instead if you insist on ignoring what the prophecy itself indicates.
 
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Davy

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Sure, go ahead and turn a determined/designated 490 year time period from beginning to end into at least a 2,500 year time period instead if you insist on ignoring what the prophecy itself indicates.

There's that ADDING to Scripture again above folks!

Nowhere in the Book of Daniel does it say the 70 weeks prophecy must be fulfilled in a continuous fashion. That doctrine instead is one of the doctrines of SDA and Ellen White, a Cult.
 

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You've already been told the meaning, but you still reject it.
You've been shown how "cut off" clarifies and enhances the meaning, but you'd rather stay decapitated, orphaned, unfulfilled, and undetermined. :laughing:
 

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There's that ADDING to Scripture again above folks!

Nowhere in the Book of Daniel does it say the 70 weeks prophecy must be fulfilled in a continuous fashion. That doctrine instead is one of the doctrines of SDA and Ellen White, a Cult.
Keep those guffaws coming. :laughing:

Here is the understanding of the 70 weeks by the early Church.

It was only about 15 centuries before SDA. :laughing:

Clement of Alexandria

The Stromata, or Miscellanies

Book I

Chapter XXI.—The Jewish Institutions and Laws of Far Higher Antiquity Than the Philosophy of the Greeks.

From the captivity at Babylon, which took place in the time of Jeremiah the prophet, was fulfilled what was spoken by Daniel the prophet as follows: “Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people, and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to seal sins, and to wipe out and make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal the vision and the prophet, and to anoint the Holy of Holies. Know therefore, and understand, that from the going forth of the word commanding an answer to be given, and Jerusalem to be built, to Christ the Prince, are seven weeks and sixty-two weeks; and the street shall be again built, and the wall; and the times shall be expended. And after the sixty-two weeks the anointing shall be overthrown, and judgment shall not be in him; and he shall destroy the city and the sanctuary along with the coming Prince. And they shall be destroyed in a flood, and to the end of the war shall be cut off by desolations. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week; and in the middle of the week the sacrifice and oblation shall be taken away; and in the holy place shall be the abomination of desolations, and until the consummation of time shall the consummation be assigned for desolation. And in the midst of the week shall he make the incense of sacrifice cease, and of the wing of destruction, even till the consummation, like the destruction of the oblation.”