Who is this pagan catholic and christian 'jesus'?

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DISCLAIMER: The following testimony is given regarding the religious systems of this wicked world. Submitted for revelation, not condemnation of individuals held captive by the systems of religion that are of this world. Hope is there would be those who would "see" and "hear", for all who do so will take heed unto The Call of The ONE and Only True GOD to "Come Out of her, MY people"! Those who "see" and "hear" will "Come Out" of this evil world and it's systems of religion. No longer will they be of this wicked world(babylon) and it's systems of religion, for they will have "set their affections on Heavenly things" because they realize their "citizenship(Life) IS !NOW! in Heaven" and so it is they choose to remain but "aliens and pilgrims while on this earth" indeed and Truth.......

Who is this catholic/christian "jesus"?

Truth is that the name "jesus" is the transliteration of a name into english from the latin "iesus", latin being the language of pagan catholicism! And so it is that all biblical translations from pagan greek manuscripts are prejudiced in accordance with the will of christianity's pagan latin catholic mother.


Consider, those 'bibles' translated from the pagan greek manuscripts. Why is it that most all of those 'bibles' transliterate The Name of The Messiah as "jesus"? That question needs be asked because as stated previously the name "jesus" is the transliteration of The Messiah's GOD given birth name from the pagan catholic latin word "iesus", not the pagan greek "iesous" which is in all greek manuscripts! The correct and proper transliteration of The Messiah's GOD given birth name from the pagan greek manuscripts would be "jesous" in modern day english, which still would be in error because 'jesous' is a transliteration of the pagan greek version of The Messiah's GOD given Hebrew birth name.......

So it was that the name "iesous", pronounced (ee-aa-sous[yeah-zeus]), became the name of one head of pagan catholicism's "imag"ined three-headed pagan god(s), yet she chose to use the latin "iesus" as the name of one head of her "imag"ined three-headed pagan god. And that bastardized name later became the name of one head of her harlot christian daughter's god(s) as well ;-(

Who, or what, gave the translators the liberty, or the authority to use the pagan latin 'iesus', rather than the pagan greek 'iesous' in the transliteration of The Messiah's GOD given birth Name into the english language from pagan greek manuscripts?

Truth IS the name 'jesus' was first "imag"ined some six hundred years ago! Truth IS there was no 'j' sound in the english language prior to that time! Truth IS the name 'jesus' was not spoken for more than 1400 years after The Messiah ascended unto HIS HIS GOD and Father!

And The Messiah's GOD is The GOD of His Brethren and The Messiah's Father is The Father of His Brethren. The Messiah, "ascended to His GOD and Father" and was the "first-born of many Brethren".......

"Let There Be Light" and "there was Light"!

LIGHT Begot Light.......

The Messiah, "The Light which enlightens every man born......" (John1:9)

The Messiah, "The Beginning of The Creation of The Only True GOD"....... (Rev3:14)

The Messiah was "the mediator between The Only True GOD and man", and when Our Father "raised Him from among the dead", "The Kingdom of GOD's Dear Son in Heaven" DID "Come and Quickly!" Just as The Messiah promised!



Yet when the earthly, natural, temporal temple realm centered in old jerusalem was destroyed The Messiah delivered up The Kingdom unto Our Father and GOD so that HE might once again be ALL IN ALL, just as Paul had prophesied ! (1Cor15:24-28)

"The Kingdom of Our Father and GOD in Heaven" HAD "Come" and IS !NOW!


And so it is that we, "the brethren of The Messiah", and "sons of Our Father and GOD", can now commune with Our Father for our "citizenship(Life) IS !NOW! in Heaven" and we are but "aliens and pilgrims while on the earth"!


Father Help! and HE does.......

Simply, The Messiah's GOD given Hebrew birth Name when transliterated into today's english would be Joshua....... The greek word "iesous" used for the Name of The Messiah is the same pagan greek word first used in the greek septuagint translation of The Old Covenant for "Joshua the son of Nun"!

Should not The Begotten Son of The ONE and ONLY TRUE LIVING GOD(SPIRIT) and FATHER(CREATOR) of ALL be called by The Name given to Him by His Father and GOD?

The Messiah was, and is "The Begotten Son of The ONE and Only True Living GOD", and as there is Only ONE True GOD, so also there is only One True Begotten Messiah. And His GOD given Hebrew birth name was Yahshua(Joshua in modern day english).

Yahshua IS The Begotten Son of The ONE and Only True Living GOD(SPIRIT) and Father (CREATOR) of ALL!

And it was, and is as The Messiah testified, "I ascend to My GOD and your GOD, to My Father and your Father"! (John20:17)

"Our Father and GOD" indeed and TRUTH!

Truth also testifies that the name 'jesus' was first "imag"ined during a time "the god of this world(he who is "the father of lies")" and his 'catholic/christian' systems of religion have declared to be the "reformation". Prior to the "reformation" there was no 'j' sound in the english language and there never has been a 'j' sound or letter in the pagan greek or the Hebrew language!

"Reformation" is a right word indeed for 'catholicism' was re-formed, in the sense of being restructured and made to appear different outwardly. Yet the various "re-formed" systems of religion were, and are, her offspring! And they all bear the mark of catholicism's god 'jesus'! Either they name one head of their three headed pagan god 'jesus', or they make the the "imag"ined 'jesus' their god, or they declare their version of the "imag"ined 'jesus' to be but an angel or prophet ;-(

So it is that all of pagan catholicism's harlot christian daughters are but "imag"ined systems of religion fornicating with "the god of this world", he who is "the father of lies", he who is "the author of dis-order" and "every evil work"!

Pagan 'catholicism' and her harlot 'christian' daughters but fornicate with "the god of this world" because "they love his world and, it's things", and "they love their own lives in and of his evil, wicked world" ;-(


The Messiah testified that "the world was evil", and that His brethren were "in, yet not of, this world".

And The Messiah ascended to His GOD and Father.......

And The Messiah's GOD and Father is also The GOD and Father of His brethren.

And The Messiah's GOD and Father IS "The ONLY TRUE GOD", HE WHO has no 'god' or 'father', for HE IS "The ONE and ONLY TRUE LIVING GOD(SPIRIT) and FATHER(CREATOR) of ALL"!



Sadly, pagan catholic and christian folklore has bound multitudes in the chains of strong delusion for they have not received "a love of The Truth" ;-(

A partial list of their perverse beliefs and theo'ry'logical doctrinal heresies follow:

"Truth" Testifies: "The Messiah is The Son of The Living GOD!"
"catholic/christian" folklore:
'jesus' is 'god' or 1/3 of a 'god' or an angel or ????

"Truth" Testifies: "Love your enemies! Turn the other cheek"!
"catholic/christian" folklore:
alright to fight fleshly wars ;-( kill the infidels! ;-(

"Truth" Testifies: "The world is evil"! "Come Out of her, MY people"!
"catholic/christian" folklore:
we can change this world and make it a 'better' place ;-(

"Truth" Testifies: "The WHOLE world is under the control of the evil one"!
"catholic/christian" folklore:
there are righteous nations, the usa and others. ;-(

"Truth" Testifies: "Love not the world or the things of this world"!
"catholic/christian" folklore:
love this world and thank their 'god' for it's things ;-(

"Truth" Testifies: Pagans "observe days, months and years"!
"catholic/christian" folklore:
observe christmas, easter, halloween, 'good' friday, etc.

"Truth" Testifies: "Serve The Only True GOD and HIM alone"!
"catholic/christian" folklore:
serve family, country and their "imag"ined god(s) ;-(

"Truth" Testifies: GOD asks, "What building will you build unto ME"?
"catholic/christian" folklore:
various buildings dedicated to their "imag"ined 'god' ;-(

"Truth" Testifies: "As The Messiah suffered so His Brethren will suffer"!"
"catholic/christian" folklore:
eat, drink, be merry, especially during x-mass season.

"Truth" Testifies: "GOD helps those who cry unto HIM for help"!
"catholic/christian" folklore:
'god' helps those who help themselves ;-(

"Truth Testifies": "I can do nothing of mine own self"!
'catholic/christian" folklore:
"i do my best and leave the rest to god(s)" ;-(

"Truth" Testifies: "NO man has seen The Only True GOD"!
"catholic/christian" folklore:
many saw their "imag"ined 'god' 'jesus'.

"Truth" Testifies: "GOD is Spirit and a Spirit has not flesh and bones"!
"catholic/christian" folklore:
except for their "imag"ined 'god' 'jesus' that is.

"Truth" Testifies: "When you pray do so in private"!
"catholic/christian" folklore:
pray aloud so that others might hear.

"Truth" Testifies: "Swear not! Let your yes, be yes, your no, no"!
"catholic/christian" folklore:
put your hand on their 'bible' and swear to their 'god'.

"Truth" Testifies: "Believers are translated into The Kingdom"!
"catholic/christian" folklore:
after death they sleep till their "imag"ined 'jesus' comes ;-(

The Messiah testified, "That they might know YOU, The ONLY TRUE GOD, and The Messiah, Whom YOU have sent"! (John17:3)

And The Messiah testified, "Love Your Enemies"!



Yet multiplied billions have been killed and enslaved(by theo'ry'logical doctrinal heresies) in the name of the god(s) of this, or that religion )-;

islam, judaism, catholicism, christianity, buddhism, and all other religions but serve "the father of lies", he who is "the god of this wicked, evil world" )-;

Religious systems of this world and all alike they are,
for they have fought, killed and died both near and far;

And then once a week or multiples times a day they may pray,
yet then as hypocrites they begin each new day;

Days that are filled with deceit and lies,
for in their religious systems Truth cannot abide;

And so the fruit of death is bore of their religious ways,
because life is but a pawn in the wicked game they play!

"Pure religion and undefiled before GOD The Father is this, to visit the fatherless(children who know not Their Father[Creator] and GOD) and widows(those whose 'bridegroom' has died and not risen again) in their affliction and to keep oneself uncontaminated by the world......." (James 1:27)

Simply, all other religion is impure and defiled.......

And notice that "pure and undefiled" religion is personal("oneself"), a brother or sister doing The Will of Our Father, led of The Holy, Set Apart, Spirit.......

And "Brothers and Sisters" is not "religion", for what are Brothers and Sisters if not Family?


Would not The Family of The Only True GOD, Father(Creator) of ALL, of which those in "The Body of The Messiah" have their portion, be much closer than a natural, fleshly family?

Simply, The Faithful will not create a religion, for The Faithful ARE Family!

So it is that the BORN ANEW "sons of GOD" have their portion with The Messiah in The Family of "Our Father and GOD", "of WHOM the whole Family in Heaven and on earth is named"! (Eph3:15)

And NEW "Jerusalem which IS above IS free, and IS !NOW! the mother of us all(sons of Our Father and GOD)"! (Gal4:26)

What is declared to be "religion" today is truly the devil's playground.......


The multitudes have been seduced by " the commandments and doctrines of men" created by the devil's theo'ry'logical advocates whose self-made systems of religion but carry on the legacy of the pharisee's ;-(

Such theo'ry'logical systems of religion have bound the common people in the chains of "strong delusion" and so it is that they but serve 'time' in the prison that is this world ;-(

The Only True GOD has given HIS Call to "Come Out of her, MY people" unto all who are held captive by this wicked, evil world(babylon) and it's seductive religious systems, and especially the ones known as "catholicism" and "christianity", yet they all have their portion with the "many anti-messiah's" that John bore witness of in 1 John 2:18.......


Yet because of pagan catholicism and her harlot christian daughters, "The Way of Truth is evil spoken of" ;-( (2 Peter 2:2)

"The mother of harlots", "catholicism", and her "protesting" "christian" daughters, as well as today's "judaism" and "islam", are but seductive harlots fornicating with 'the god of this world'!

They believe in, and are authors of, death!

Yet The Messiah testified, "Whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die!"

And then He questioned, "Do you believe this?"

YES! And you? Do you believe?

The Only True GOD and Father of ALL, would have us "set our affections on things above", Heavenly things, just as The Messiah did.......

And the BORN ANEW children of "Our Father and GOD" have quit serving 'time' in the prison that is this wicked world, for their desires are no longer for that which is temporal, for they have realized that they have been translated into HIS Kingdom, and they seek and desire that which The Messiah desired above all else:

"Father, not my will. But THY Will Be Done".......

The children of The ONE and Only True GOD and Father(Creator) of ALL have taken heed unto HIS Call to "Come Out of her, MY people!"

They have "Come Out" of that which is of this wicked, evil world and especially it's systems of religion for they realize that "the WHOLE(not just a portion) world is under the control of the evil one"....... (I John 5:19)

Sadly, a wicked, worldly "christianity" and "catholicism" are reasons why "The Way of Truth is evil spoken of"! (2 Peter 2:2)

Yet there is Hope!

For Miracles do happen!

Hope is there would be those who would "set their affections on things above", Heavenly things, for all who do so will quit serving 'time' in the prison that is this world!

Worldly systems but feed "the lust of the eye, the lust of the flesh and the pride of life" and all such systems are of mankind's "imag"ination, and mankind's "imag"ination is under the dominion of "the father of lies", he who is "the god of this world", he who is "d"evil spirit of darkness that genders but death, destruction, perversion, fear, greed, lust, lies,,,,,"dis-order and every evil work" ;-(

Sadly, mankind's "imag"ination is destroying Creation(air, water, land, vegetation, creatures) and perverting that which is Spirit(Truth, Light, Life, Love, Peace, Mercy, Faith, Grace,,,,,, All that is Truly GOOD) ;-(



Repent and take heed unto The Only True GOD's Call to "Come Out of her, MY people"!

Come out of that which is of this perverse, destructive, evil world and especially it's systems of religion!

Once again, "Pure religion and undefiled before GOD The Father is this, to visit the fatherless(children who know not their Father[Creator] and GOD) and widows(those whose 'bridegroom' has died and not risen again]) in their affliction and to keep oneself uncontaminated by the world......." (James 1:27)

Simply, all other religion is impure and defiled!


So heed The Call of The Only True GOD and:

"Come Out of her(babel/dis-order/babylon\world\religion), MY people!"

Experience Peace in Truth, in spite of the dis-ease(no-peace) that is of this wicked world and it's systems of religion, for "the WHOLE world is under the control of the evil one" indeed and Truth.......(1John5:19)

Truth IS, a lie is not.......

Abide in Truth....... francis
 

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“YAHshua” is not a possible Hebrew name as there are no pointings in the Hebrew that would allow for such a pronunciation and it cannot be found anywhere in the OT. It is a made up name to reflect a theological agenda that Jesus came “in the Name of His Father, and therefore, must have part of “Yahweh” in His Name in order to be the true Messiah/Son of God. For those who know Hebrew, “coming in the name of” [Hebrew – HaShem] means coming in someone’s reputation, character, and authority. It is not a pronunciation, but that Jesus came in His Father’s authority. There are examples in both the OT and NT that show others who come in the name of the Lord but do not have part of the YHWH in their names.

This same errant teaching promotes that Yahshua means “Yahweh is our salvation”. However; we find that the long form of Yehoshua would translate as "YHVH is salvation" or "He who is (or will be) saves". Where the 'our' could possibly come from in their constructed name of YAHshua is not known.

Some of these same teachers have stated that they do not like to use the name Yeshua [Jesus], because it only means "salvation". This needs to be clarified, as it is an incorrect statement. Yeshuah (H3444) is a feminine noun that means "salvation" [note the “hey” [h] on the end]. Yeshua (H3442) is a masculine noun that means "He is salvation" or "He saves." It is the name that refers to Joshua in the TeNaKh (OT), and is the shortened form of Yehoshua which the name Jesus was derived from. In scripture we find in Matthew 1:21 "for He will save His people from their sins"’

The Name Yeshua was transliterated [not translated] into the Greek - Iesous, then into the Latin – Iesus which then became the same in old English. Eventually, the English “I” [pronounced like a German “Y”] took on the French “J” sound and was changed to Jesus.

Transliteration is a process of replacing letters to change a name for ease in pronunciation from one language to another. The Greek speaking people would not have been able to pronounce “Yeshua” as they were not able to vocalize the “yeh” sound. Nor could they vocalize the “sh” sound. The “yeh” was transliterated to “ee-ay” and the “sh” to the “s” sound. The ending sound of “ah” which would be a vowel sound is not allowed in Greek, therefore, an “s” was added which is how masculine names always end in Greek.. The final transliteration is “Iesous” [ee-ay-soose]. [Note: the middle “oo” sound is different also between Hebrew (“oo”) and Greek (ou)]

If everyone knew Him only as Yeshua, there would have been no need to write His Name in its other transliterated forms of Greek and Latin on the sign above Him when He was crucified.

John 19:19-20 And Pilate also wrote a title and put it on the cross. And having been written, it was: JESUS THE NAZARENE, THE KING OF THE JEWS. 20. Therefore, many of the Jews read this title, because the place where Jesus was crucified was near the city. And it had been written in Hebrew, in Greek, in Latin.[LITV]

John 19:19 And Pilate wrote a title, and put it on the cross. And the writing was, JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS. 20 This title then read many of the Jews: for the place where Jesus was crucified was nigh to the city: and it was written in Hebrew, and Greek, and Latin. [KJV]

Hebrew: Yeshua haNotzri Melech haYehudim

Greek: Iesous ho Nazoraios ho Basileus ton Ioudaion

Latin: Iesus Nazarenus Rex Iudaeorum

Philippians 2:5-11 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6. Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7. But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8. And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10. That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11. And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

By Vicki Dillen
 

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SilenceInMotion said:
Rotfl, someone signed up just to make a thread calling a language evil :lol:
This forum gets more than it's fair share of one time posters who dump and run.

They are a waste of time in my opinion.

Christian forums have more anonymous arseholys than any other.

It has always been that way.
 

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And so the point of this whole gibberish is . . . . oh, I get it. It was just a little decoy to waste some of my time. :p
 

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i hope everyone reading the op can see that its author's faith is grasping for security because it is driven by fear. he cannot even trust the very name of Christ! love drives out fear - unfortunately many Christians are never saved from death/fear and born again into love/new life. instead they continue to make idols out of everything they encounter - even language and doctrine and their puny image of God. their message is fear and death rather than life.