Why are there four Gospel accounts in the New Testament?

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Why four Gospel accounts?



It is no accident that the Holy Bible has four Gospel accounts. It certainly isn’t unnecessary. The Biblical law states: “A single witness shall not suffice against a person for any crime or for any wrong in connection with any offence that he has committed. Only on the evidence of two witnesses or of three witnesses shall a charge be established.” (Deut 19v15).

As the Lord Himself expressed this, “In your Law it is written that the testimony of two people is true.” (Jn 8v17).
This is paramount importance. It is also the nature of God.
God Himself exists in three Persons, means that His testimony is automatically based on three witnesses (Jn 8v18, 15v26, 16v13-15, Acts 5v32). He expects human beings act accordingly.

To be fair and to try to get to the truth of whether an event happened or not, it is better to have the evidence of more than one person. Good scientists do the same. They repeat their experiments to prove they have got the right results. Of-course, the implication is that each person like each experiment speaks independently of the others.

In Islam and in many Christian related cults, it is one person who gets everyone else to obey them. Whenever evidence is demanded that they prove their points, if these religious founders can ever be challenged, they can’t prove they speak from God, and it is quickly shown that they have no supporting witness, only followers

That is why John the Baptist is so significant. His role was prophesied by Malachi (3v1) and Isaiah (40v3) and declared by the Lord Jesus Christ Himself to have been the greatest human being ever lived born of woman (Mt 11v11). He was filled with Holy Spirit even from birth (Lk 1v15). John declared before the Lord Jesus’ mission began, that there was One to follow after him who would be greater than he was. All four Gospel accounts start their reports about Jesus speaking about John. Without John, the Gospel would have been much weaker in terms of testimony power.

There are four Gospel accounts, but only three is required. We have in effect abundance of witnesses so to speak. Mark translated from Matthew, repeating mainly the actions of Christ. Therefore the two read so similarly. But they are not identical. Mark added some incidents to his narrative. Luke used Mark’s account, especially the latter part to speak of the Passion of Christ. Therefore there is overlap between the three. These overlaps help to cement the testimony of what
the Lord Jesus Christ did in His earthly bodily ministry. John’s Gospel account is much more of an independent voice. As an eye witness, it should. Hence where the four accounts agree, it is tremendously significant. And they do agree.

All four speak of John the Baptist’s preparation ministry, the miracle of feeding of the 5000 from a few loaves and fishes, the last supper, the trials, suffering and crucifixion and burial of Christ Jesus, and the missing body of the Lord from the time when the women went to visit the body on the Sunday following the execution. The resurrection detail from Mark has been lost, otherwise I would have
included the supernatural raising of Christ from the dead. Nevertheless, others in the New Testament testify to it like Paul who referred to it more than once (1Cor 15v3-8, Rom 10v8). For Christ’s resurrection we have most assuredly enough witnesses to cover the legal requirement.

There is no need to include the Nag Hammadi writings as these were Gnostic writings and not Christian. These second and third century works have an immense use to show the knowledge of the Christian faith had spread abroad from ancient Israel, but have little in use for helping to act as authoritative sources for testimony purposes, as the writers do not have access to any first hand material. They are like the Christian writers of the late first and second century like Ignatius, Clement of Rome, Irenaeus and Justin Martyr, who wrote what they did based on the testimonies and letters of the New Testament.

The New Testament contains eye witness accounts and reports from those who spoke to the eye witnesses, like Luke who must have spoken to someone who knew Mary to have had the detailed miraculous accounts of John the Baptist and the Lord Jesus' birth accounts.
 

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I like some of what you say.

But, these comments (below) make the gospels seemingly be mere writings of men. When in fact these writing are inspired writings reveled from the Holy Spirit. The writers of the gospels, like Moses and the other inspired writers, did not rely on their own mind or the minds of others to gather information; the Holy Spirit gave them the information.

Mark translated from Matthew

No, Mark was inspired by God and wrote what was inspired to be written.

Mark added some incidents

Mark wrote only what God inspired him to write.

Luke who must have spoken to someone who knew Mary to have had the detailed miraculous accounts of John the Baptist and the Lord Jesus' birth accounts.

Luke was moved by the Holy Ghost!

For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.” (2 Peter 1:21)
 

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Why are there umpteen written accounts of anything from historians to today's media? Same facts different reporter.
 

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Why are there four gospel accounts? Because four men were moved to write accounts of the earthly ministry of Jesus. (Actually more than four, but only those we now know as Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were endowed by consensus -- centuries later -- with canonical status.) It's as simple as that. Don't look deeper for an explanation. Sometimes the simple explanation is the best one.

Did you ever notice that when birds fly together in a "V" formation to help reduce wind drag, one side of the chevron is typically longer than the other? Do you know why that is? Because there are more birds on that side! It's as simple as that. Don't look for a deeper explanation.

Now, if you want to get caught up in mystical explanations for why there are four gospels in your Bible, the musings of Ignatius may be a good starting point. But in the end, I suspect you'll wonder what he was smoking.
 
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Mark translated from Matthew, repeating mainly the actions of Christ. Therefore the two read so similarly. But they are not identical. Mark added some incidents to his narrative. Luke used Mark’s account, especially the latter part to speak of the Passion of Christ. Therefore there is overlap between the three. These overlaps help to cement the testimony of what
the Lord Jesus Christ did in His earthly bodily ministry.
The current textual criticism theory of the Synoptics is that Mark came first. Matthew used Mark's structure, added some speeches (such as the Sermon on the Mount) from an Aramaic source (the Apostle Matthew himself?) called "Quelle" or "Q", and then had a unique source for stories like the birth narrative. Luke, wishing to "write an orderly account" (Luke 1:3), researched all the available material. He also started with Mark, added some "Q" stuff (translating from the Aramaic original, not copying Matthew's Greek translation), and had his own unique sources (Mary?) for things like the Lukan birth narrative, the Parables of the Prodigal Son and the Good Samaritan, et. al.
 
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The New Testament contains eye witness accounts and reports from those who spoke to the eye witnesses, like Luke who must have spoken to someone who knew Mary to have had the detailed miraculous accounts of John the Baptist and the Lord Jesus' birth accounts.

This is an important observation. But as to particular witnesses, it's also a little speculative; we don't know who Luke interviewed. There is a hearsay issue lurking here. For instance, if he interviewed Mary (which would be a little surprising), and Mary told him what Elizabeth related to her, that would be hearsay. That doesn't make Luke's account false, of course. Just unattested by a direct witness.

Some will say (Michiah-Imla has already said) that Luke got the story directly from God. But Luke himself was quick to note the value of eyewitness testimony (Luke 1:2), and apparently steeped himself in it for years before putting pen to parchment (Luke 1:3). Why even bother mentioning this, if God was in effect moving his pen on the parchment?
 
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Why four Gospel accounts?



It is no accident that the Holy Bible has four Gospel accounts. It certainly isn’t unnecessary. The Biblical law states: “A single witness shall not suffice against a person for any crime or for any wrong in connection with any offence that he has committed. Only on the evidence of two witnesses or of three witnesses shall a charge be established.” (Deut 19v15).

As the Lord Himself expressed this, “In your Law it is written that the testimony of two people is true.” (Jn 8v17).
This is paramount importance. It is also the nature of God.
God Himself exists in three Persons, means that His testimony is automatically based on three witnesses (Jn 8v18, 15v26, 16v13-15, Acts 5v32). He expects human beings act accordingly.

To be fair and to try to get to the truth of whether an event happened or not, it is better to have the evidence of more than one person. Good scientists do the same. They repeat their experiments to prove they have got the right results. Of-course, the implication is that each person like each experiment speaks independently of the others.

In Islam and in many Christian related cults, it is one person who gets everyone else to obey them. Whenever evidence is demanded that they prove their points, if these religious founders can ever be challenged, they can’t prove they speak from God, and it is quickly shown that they have no supporting witness, only followers

That is why John the Baptist is so significant. His role was prophesied by Malachi (3v1) and Isaiah (40v3) and declared by the Lord Jesus Christ Himself to have been the greatest human being ever lived born of woman (Mt 11v11). He was filled with Holy Spirit even from birth (Lk 1v15). John declared before the Lord Jesus’ mission began, that there was One to follow after him who would be greater than he was. All four Gospel accounts start their reports about Jesus speaking about John. Without John, the Gospel would have been much weaker in terms of testimony power.

There are four Gospel accounts, but only three is required. We have in effect abundance of witnesses so to speak. Mark translated from Matthew, repeating mainly the actions of Christ. Therefore the two read so similarly. But they are not identical. Mark added some incidents to his narrative. Luke used Mark’s account, especially the latter part to speak of the Passion of Christ. Therefore there is overlap between the three. These overlaps help to cement the testimony of what
the Lord Jesus Christ did in His earthly bodily ministry. John’s Gospel account is much more of an independent voice. As an eye witness, it should. Hence where the four accounts agree, it is tremendously significant. And they do agree.

All four speak of John the Baptist’s preparation ministry, the miracle of feeding of the 5000 from a few loaves and fishes, the last supper, the trials, suffering and crucifixion and burial of Christ Jesus, and the missing body of the Lord from the time when the women went to visit the body on the Sunday following the execution. The resurrection detail from Mark has been lost, otherwise I would have
included the supernatural raising of Christ from the dead. Nevertheless, others in the New Testament testify to it like Paul who referred to it more than once (1Cor 15v3-8, Rom 10v8). For Christ’s resurrection we have most assuredly enough witnesses to cover the legal requirement.

There is no need to include the Nag Hammadi writings as these were Gnostic writings and not Christian. These second and third century works have an immense use to show the knowledge of the Christian faith had spread abroad from ancient Israel, but have little in use for helping to act as authoritative sources for testimony purposes, as the writers do not have access to any first hand material. They are like the Christian writers of the late first and second century like Ignatius, Clement of Rome, Irenaeus and Justin Martyr, who wrote what they did based on the testimonies and letters of the New Testament.

The New Testament contains eye witness accounts and reports from those who spoke to the eye witnesses, like Luke who must have spoken to someone who knew Mary to have had the detailed miraculous accounts of John the Baptist and the Lord Jesus' birth accounts.
I have to figure that it takes more than one witness to convince people who Jesus is.
 
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Why are there four Gospel accounts in the New Testament?
'Four' is an interesting number in scriptural language.
An example; four angels holding back the four winds of strife in Rev. 7:1
'Then I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds so they did not blow on the earth or the sea, or even on any tree.'

The earth does not have corners but its territory is designated by North, South, East and West. In other words, everywhere. Using this typology we can conclude that 'four' means all or complete, ie, all the angels everywhere on earth are holding back the winds of strife.

Could it be that 'four' Gospel accounts cover sufficient territory to give mankind the relevant information required to enlighten any searching individual?

By the scriptures own witness, if all the things Jesus said and did (in typical Jewish hyperbole) all the books in the world could not contain it. John 21:25
 

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I like some of what you say.

But, these comments (below) make the gospels seemingly be mere writings of men. When in fact these writing are inspired writings reveled from the Holy Spirit. The writers of the gospels, like Moses and the other inspired writers, did not rely on their own mind or the minds of others to gather information; the Holy Spirit gave them the information.



No, Mark was inspired by God and wrote what was inspired to be written.



Mark wrote only what God inspired him to write.



Luke was moved by the Holy Ghost!

For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.” (2 Peter 1:21)

Why "mere"? They are the writings of four men. Period. They relied on their own minds and the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.

Luke 1"1-4, "Now many have undertaken to compile an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, like the accounts passed on to us by those who were eyewitnesses and servants of the word from the beginning. So it seemed good to me as well, because I have followed all things carefully from the beginning, to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, so that you may know for certain the things you were taught."
 
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We know enough about the gospel-writers to be able to do a 'This is Your Life' on them..:)
This is a nice summary of the gospel-writers which I came across on the net-

Matthew the disciple, formerly Levi (Mark 2:14; Luke 5:27) son of Alpheus, was formerly a tax collector (Luke 5:29-30) one of the 12 apostles handpicked by Jesus (Matthew 9:9), he wrote his gospel between c.60 and 80 AD after Mark wrote his first.

Mark, a friend of Jesus's righthand man Peter (1 Peter 5:13), Mark was a cousin of Barnabas (Colossians 4:10), a helpful co-worker of Paul (2 Timothy 4:11), and wrote his gospel c.60AD not long after some Apostolic Letters were written: i.e., James, Galatians, 1 and 2 Thessalonians, 1 & 2 Corinthians, and Romans.
His mother was one of the Marys (Acts of the Apostles 12:12) from an influential and probably wealthy family, so some speculate that the last supper was held in their home.

Luke, a doctor (Colossians 4:14) and a gentile convert (Luke 1:2) was a traveling companion of Paul (Acts of the Apostles 17:1; 20:5, 6-21:18).
He wrote his gospel c.65 AD.


John the disciple, (John 13:23) son of Zebedee, the brother of James the "greater" (Matthew 4:21; 10:2; Mark 1:19; 3:17; 10:35) wrote his gospel c.95AD, the last to be written before Revelation.
From a wealthy family (Mark 1:20; Luke 5:3; John 19:27). His mother was probably Salome (Matthew 27:56; Mark 15:40). He was one of the closest disciples to Jesus among the twelve (Matthew 17:1; 26:37; Mark 5:37; 13:3).
He was zealous (Matthew 20:20-24; Mark 3:17; 10:35-41; Luke 9:49-54).
He became one of the leaders of the Jerusalem Church (Acts of the Apostles 15:6; Galatians 2:9) and of the seven churches in Asia (Revelation 1:11). He was banished to the island of Patmos where he wrote Revelation.
 

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“And Moses said, Hereby ye shall know that the LORD hath sent me to do all these works; for I have not done them of mine own mind.” (Numbers 16:28)

That is totally irrelevant to the subject. Moses didn't write any of the gospels.
 

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All inspired by the Holy Spirit.

Like this:

“The Spirit of the LORD spake by me, and his word was in my tongue.” (2 Samuel 23:2)

These are David's words. Also totally irrelevant to the subject.

As I wrote earlier, the gospels are the writings of four men. Period. They relied on their own minds and the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.

Did you get out of bed on the wrong side this morning, or just being argumentative for argument's sake?
 

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That is totally irrelevant to the subject. Moses didn't write any of the gospels.

“And for this cause we thank God without ceasing, that when you received the Word of hearing, of God, you welcomed it as the Word of God, not as a word of men, but as it is, truly the Word of God, which also effectually works in you who believe.” (1 Thessalonians 2:13)

Go ahead and receive the gospels as the word of men if you choose.

I choose to receive them as the word of God!
 
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“And for this cause we thank God without ceasing, that when you received the Word of hearing, of God, you welcomed it as the Word of God, not as a word of men, but as it is, truly the Word of God, which also effectually works in you who believe.” (1 Thessalonians 2:13)

Go ahead and receive the gospels as the word of men if you choose.

I choose to receive them as the word of God!

Who/what do you think wrote the gospels? Men? Sheep? Horses?

Why are you deliberately twisting what I wrote? Are you that desperate?
 

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As I wrote earlier, the gospels are the writings of four men. Period.

“…the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.” (1 Peter 1:25)

The four gospels are the word of the Lord that endure for ever.

Also:

“And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power: That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.” (1 Corinthians 2:4-5)

If the gospel writers minds were involved in any way then those gospels are not the infallible word of God.
 

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“…the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.” (1 Peter 1:25)

The four gospels are the word of the Lord that endure for ever.

Also:

“And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power: That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.” (1 Corinthians 2:4-5)

If the gospel writers minds were involved in any way then those gospels are not the infallible word of God.

I won't discuss this with you any longer. You're just being argumentative.

I can act in a similar manner. For example, the verse above in 1 Peter shows that the gospel is preached, therefore not written. The same rule applies to the quote from 1 Corinthians. It discusses speech and preaching, nothing written. So again, the gospel is preached, therefore not written.

I'm putting you on ignore until you have something worthwhile to say. Adios.
 
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