Why Are You A Christian?

[Johann]

I was an elder in my church and was admired by everyone until I retired. Unlike yourself, I know how to love others as myself. Clearly you do not.

Your flawed politics are painfully apparent in this second rant. IMHO you are really "losing it".

You were "admired" @Jim B and unlike @amigo de christo you know how to love others?
But you can't love your brother and his "rantings" on this Forum?
Shalom
Johann.

 

[Johann]

They were first called christians in antioch . Go read chapter twelve in acts . I think its twelve .

Act 11:26

Shalom dear brother.
Johann.

 

[Johann]

Matthew 7:1, “Do not judge, so that you may not be judged." That applies to everyone in church or not. And what is this "sensual love" stuff? Where did that come from?

Eros love-and I concur with @amigo de christo
Johann.

 

[Johann]

Yes, there's the trap so many fall into, including myself in the past, of explaining where we came from with such zeal and fervor, it came across like a longing for the good old days, like blissful reminiscing, with Jesus entering into the picture as a late after thought, like a reluctant interloper who redirects traffic around an accident.
I dread to consider this, but I wonder if at times I would embellish the tale somewhat in order to make it sound more 'epic'. Shameful really. Taking the glory from Jesus and coveting it for myself.

Correct-that is why I don't go on peoples testimonies-there is a certain "embellishment" and as you rightly say-taking the glory that rightfully belongs to Christ Jesus.
Shalom
Johann.

 

[Johann]

how long should it take for a person to get saved once God calls them?

Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Eph 1:14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.


Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Rom 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

Immediately-why delay?
Johann.

 

[Johann]

ABSOLUTELY!!! It's the only REAL reason that under CONVICTION OF SIN that I surrendered, Repented and cried out to God (in the FAITH that HE Gifted).

Nothing "Sad" about it. I'm HUMAN and as a human I wanted nothing to do with God, until I was out of choices, and simple SURVIVAL (Eternal) was all that was left.

God is the divine Initiator-and until then- we are still dead in our trespasses and sins.

Psa_119:50 This is my comfort in my affliction: for thy word hath quickened me.

Psa_119:93 I will never forget thy precepts: for with them thou hast quickened me.

1Co_15:36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:

Eph_2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

Eph_2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved

Col_2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

1Pe_3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

-and this is NOT saying a "sinners prayer and you are saved"

Shalom
Johann

 

[Johann]

I'd have to say that for 50 years Jesus has been chasing me down relentlessly,

Like this Barn'

The Hound Of Heaven
By Francis Thompson (1890)
I fled Him, down the nights and down the days;

I fled Him, down the arches of the years;

I fled Him, down the labyrinthine ways

Of my own mind; and in the mist of tears

I hid from Him, and under running laughter.

Up vistaed hopes I sped;

And shot, precipitated,

Adown Titanic glooms of chasmèd fears,

From those strong Feet that followed, followed after.

But with unhurrying chase,

And unperturbèd pace,

Deliberate speed, majestic instancy,

They beat—and a Voice beat

More instant than the Feet—

‘All things betray thee, who betrayest Me.’

I pleaded, outlaw-wise,

By many a hearted casement, curtained red,

Trellised with intertwining charities;

(For, though I knew His love Who followèd,

Yet was I sore adread

Lest having Him, I must have naught beside).

But, if one little casement parted wide,

The gust of His approach would clash it to.

Fear wist not to evade, as Love wist to pursue.

Across the margent of the world I fled,

And troubled the gold gateways of the stars,

Smiting for shelter on their clangèd bars;

Fretted to dulcet jars

And silvern chatter the pale ports o’ the moon.

I said to Dawn: Be sudden—to Eve: Be soon;

With thy young skiey blossoms heap me over

From this tremendous Lover—

Float thy vague veil about me, lest He see!

I tempted all His servitors, but to find

My own betrayal in their constancy,

In faith to Him their fickleness to me,

Their traitorous trueness, and their loyal deceit.

To all swift things for swiftness did I sue;

Clung to the whistling mane of every wind.

But whether they swept, smoothly fleet,

The long savannahs of the blue;

Or whether, Thunder-driven,

They clanged his chariot ’thwart a heaven,

Plashy with flying lightnings round the spurn o’ their

feet:—

Fear wist not to evade as Love wist to pursue.

Still with unhurrying chase,

And unperturbèd pace,

Deliberate speed, majestic instancy,

Came on the following Feet,

And a Voice above their beat—

‘Naught shelters thee, who wilt not shelter Me.’


I sought no more that after which I strayed

In face of man or maid;

But still within the little children’s eyes

Seems something, something that replies;

They at least are for me, surely for me!

I turned me to them very wistfully;

But just as their young eyes grew sudden fair

With dawning answers there,

Their angel plucked them from me by the hair.

‘Come then, ye other children, Nature’s—share

With me’ (said I) ‘your delicate fellowship;

Let me greet you lip to lip,

Let me twine with you caresses,

Wantoning

With our Lady-Mother’s vagrant tresses,

Banqueting

With her in her wind-walled palace,

Underneath her azured daïs,

Quaffing, as your taintless way is,

From a chalice

Lucent-weeping out of the dayspring.’

So it was done:

I in their delicate fellowship was one—

Drew the bolt of Nature’s secrecies.

I knew all the swift importings

On the wilful face of skies;

I knew how the clouds arise

Spumèd of the wild sea-snortings;

All that’s born or dies

Rose and drooped with; made them shapers

Of mine own moods, or wailful or divine;

With them joyed and was bereaven.

I was heavy with the even,

When she lit her glimmering tapers

Round the day’s dead sanctities.

I laughed in the morning’s eyes.


I triumphed and I saddened with all weather,

Heaven and I wept together,

And its sweet tears were salt with mortal mine;

Against the red throb of its sunset-heart

I laid my own to beat,

And share commingling heat;

But not by that, by that, was eased my human smart.

In vain my tears were wet on Heaven’s gray cheek.

For ah! we know not what each other says,

These things and I; in sound I speak—

Their sound is but their stir, they speak by silences.

Nature, poor stepdame, cannot slake my drouth;

Let her, if she would owe me,

Drop yon blue bosom-veil of sky, and show me

The breasts o’ her tenderness:

Never did any milk of hers once bless

My thirsting mouth.

Nigh and nigh draws the chase,

With unperturbèd pace,

Deliberate speed, majestic instancy;

And past those noisèd Feet

A voice comes yet more fleet—

‘Lo! naught contents thee, who content’st

not Me.’


Naked I wait Thy love’s uplifted stroke!

My harness piece by piece Thou hast hewn from me,

And smitten me to my knee;

I am defenceless utterly.

I slept, methinks, and woke,

And, slowly gazing, find me stripped in sleep.

In the rash lustihead of my young powers,

I shook the pillaring hours

And pulled my life upon me; grimed with smears,

I stand amid the dust o’ the mounded years—

My mangled youth lies dead beneath the heap.

My days have crackled and gone up in smoke,

Have puffed and burst as sun-starts on a stream.

Yea, faileth now even dream

The dreamer, and the lute the lutanist;

Even the linked fantasies, in whose blossomy twist

I swung the earth a trinket at my wrist,

Are yielding; cords of all too weak account

For earth with heavy griefs so overplussed.

Ah! is Thy love indeed

A weed, albeit an amaranthine weed,

Suffering no flowers except its own to mount?

Ah! must—

Designer infinite!—

Ah! must Thou char the wood ere Thou canst limn

with it?

My freshness spent its wavering shower i’ the dust;

And now my heart is as a broken fount,

Wherein tear-drippings stagnate, spilt down ever

From the dank thoughts that shiver

Upon the sighful branches of my mind.

Such is; what is to be?

The pulp so bitter, how shall taste the rind?

I dimly guess what Time in mists confounds;

Yet ever and anon a trumpet sounds

From the hid battlements of Eternity;

Those shaken mists a space unsettle, then

Round the half-glimpsèd turrets slowly wash again.

But not ere him who summoneth

I first have seen, enwound

With glooming robes purpureal, cypress-crowned;

His name I know, and what his trumpet saith.

Whether man’s heart or life it be which yields

Thee harvest, must Thy harvest-fields

Be dunged with rotten death?


Now of that long pursuit

Comes on at hand the bruit;

That Voice is round me like a bursting sea:

‘And is thy earth so marred,

Shattered in shard on shard?

Lo, all things fly thee, for thou fliest Me!

Strange, piteous, futile thing!

Wherefore should any set thee love apart?

Seeing none but I makes much of naught’ (He said),

‘And human love needs human meriting:

How hast thou merited—

Of all man’s clotted clay the dingiest clot?

Alack, thou knowest not

How little worthy of any love thou art!

Whom wilt thou find to love ignoble thee,

Save Me, save only Me?

All which I took from thee I did but take,

Not for thy harms,

But just that thou might’st seek it in My arms.

All which thy child’s mistake

Fancies as lost, I have stored for thee at home:

Rise, clasp My hand, and come!’

Halts by me that footfall:

Is my gloom, after all,

Shade of His hand, outstretched caressingly?

‘Ah, fondest, blindest, weakest,

I am He Whom thou seekest!

Thou dravest love from thee, who dravest Me.’

— Francis Thompson (1859–1907)

 

[Johann]

@amadeus @JunChosen @robert derrick @CharismaticLady @charity @Nancy @Backlit @Tong2020 @marks @Hidden In Him @Christophany @GEN2REV @ReChoired @Ziggy @An Apologetic Sheepdog

I think it is taken for granted that most Christians have basically the same reason for being so. But I also think it's worth exploring. What if you were tried for your faith by a system that was hostile toward it? What would your testimony be if you were faced with this seemingly simple question? I may add or change answers to the poll as requested within reason. Please don't be offended if I haven't included yours. And don't be afraid to make your responses very personal.

It is well with my soul-because when God's call found me I didn't resist.

As a rule-I don't go by peoples testimonies dear brother.
Shalom
Johann.

 

[Johann]

the law of men says i am a christian but for me the only one who can truly judge me if i am or i am not is God i should not call myself a christian cause i truly am not worthy to be one

I have read through the numerous testimonies on this thread-but your two liner says it all-to me.
From that precious heart-simple, yet so profound.
Stay strong in Christ Jesus.
Johann.

 

[BarneyFife]

As a rule-I don't go by peoples testimonies dear brother.

In terms of "going by," as you say, I would have to say that I agree, in principle. But I do so love to observe as people overcome by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony.

 

[Johann]

In terms of "going by," as you say, I would have to say that I agree, in principle. But I do so love to observe as people overcome by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony.

I concur-in real time, face to face-not on a online Internet Forum.
Speaking from experience.
Johann.

 

[BarneyFife]

I concur-in real time, face to face-not on a online Internet Forum.
Speaking from experience.
Johann.

True, it would not be adequate for most folks, but we have many shut-ins here. And some are shut in for mental health reasons. "Let every man wherein he is called..."

 

[Johann]

True, it would not be adequate for most folks, but we have many shut-ins here. And some are shut in for mental health reasons. "Let every man wherein he is called..."

That is who I am looking for-the "shut-ins" not the intellectuals-who I can help in a practical sense, not just talk the walk, but walk the talk.
No offense my brother-don't take it personally.
Johann.

 

[Johann]

"Let every man wherein he is called..."

Let every man abide in the same calling wherein he was called. Art thou called being a servant? care not for it: but if thou mayest be made free, use it rather. For he that is called in the Lord, being a servant, is the Lord's freeman: likewise also he that is called, being free, is Christ's servant.

 

[amigo de christo]

Eros love-and I concur with @amigo de christo
Johann.

This is what happens when we sit under men who present another gospel .
As i said in another post.
Notice they can quoate scrips . LIKE love your nieghbor as yourself
OR judge not lest ye be judged . AND YET , oh yes , and YET
they use it out of text to shut down correction .
JUDGE NOT was never about us not judging , aka correcting the church and exposing its error .
JUDGE NOT is about CONDEMNING someone .
JESUS HIMSELF corrected
Paul and the other apostels also made mention of how we are to take care of the church .
That we are TO JUDGE those within . MEANING we DO CORRECT ERROR .
but when i try to do this , JIM comes after me like i be a judgmental hater who knows not love .
YET does not the GOD LOVE and CORRECTS THOSE HE LOVES .
DID not the apostels love and CORRECT THOSE they loved .
This other social inclusive gospel , IS TRULY FALSE .
YES , YES it can preach truths . SO DID SATAN . But it will also use scrips OUT OF TEXT
to present a LIE . I have watched the pattern of all who do this .
ITS IDENTICAL TO THE PATTERN of the serpent at the tree , the devil when he tempted JESUS .
IT always comes with a scripture , and it will quoate it verbatum .
BUT ITS GOAL IS to cause DISOBEDIANCE TO GOD .
GO ahead , CAST THYSELF OFF THIS CLIFF , said the devil to JESUS
IT IS WRITTEN HE WILL GIVE HIS ANGELS CHARGE OVER THEE .
BUT the devil said this reminder mixed in with the lie to cast yourself off
WHICH WOULD HAVE MEANT TO TEMPT GOD . JESUS KNEW BETTER
and by grace the lambs do too .
THEY USE the scripture that says GOD IS LOVE .
Now watch this my friend .
Notice how they use it and then you TELL ME who YOU THINK IS BEHIND THIS MINDSET .
VISUALIZE THE SERPENT at the TREE .
HAS CHRIST, GOD , really said That if one beleives on CHRIST he will be saved.
WHy yes sayeth the church , GOD did say that and that if one believeth not they will be damned .
NAY , NAY sayeth the serpent , GOD IS LOVE , HIS LOVE IS BROAD , YE SHALL NOT BE DAMNED
all ye need is love and do good to one another .
THE DEVIL IS SLICK JOHANN .
WHAT IS THE ONE GOAL OF SATAN . WHAT DOES HE COME TO DO . AND WHAT CAN HE NEVER DO .
The goal of satan is to cause UNBELIEF in GOD , in what HE has said . TO cause disobediance .
HE cometh to steal , to kill and to destroy . AND HE WILL NEVER and can never SET THE CAPTIVES FREE .
Satan will preach an ideal that allows folks to feel FREE TO SIN and IN SIN . BUT again HE cant set the captives free .
ONLY THE TRUTH can . JESUS can set one free from the power of sin and of the devil . But satan
DOES NOT want folks to know that or believe it
SO he preaches , GOD IS LOVE , JUDGE NOT YE HATERS , GOD IS LOVE HE accepts them all .

 

[amigo de christo]

Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Eph 1:14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.


Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Rom 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

Immediately-why delay?
Johann.

Spot on right my friend . I was saved the INSTANT GOD DREW ME TO CHRIST .
Let the LORD be praised .
In fact , let all that has breath both praise and thank the LORD .
Our saving CAME FROM GOD , IN CHRIST JESUS ALONE . By the grace of GOD ye have been saved and not that of yourselves .
IT IS THE GIFT OF GOD .
Lift those hands up , johann . TO THE LORD be all the glory .

 

[Jim B]

This is what happens when we sit under men who present another gospel .
As i said in another post.
Notice they can quoate scrips . LIKE love your nieghbor as yourself
OR judge not lest ye be judged . AND YET , oh yes , and YET
they use it out of text to shut down correction .
JUDGE NOT was never about us not judging , aka correcting the church and exposing its error .
JUDGE NOT is about CONDEMNING someone .
JESUS HIMSELF corrected
Paul and the other apostels also made mention of how we are to take care of the church .
That we are TO JUDGE those within . MEANING we DO CORRECT ERROR .
but when i try to do this , JIM comes after me like i be a judgmental hater who knows not love .
YET does not the GOD LOVE and CORRECTS THOSE HE LOVES .
DID not the apostels love and CORRECT THOSE they loved .
This other social inclusive gospel , IS TRULY FALSE .
YES , YES it can preach truths . SO DID SATAN . But it will also use scrips OUT OF TEXT
to present a LIE . I have watched the pattern of all who do this .
ITS IDENTICAL TO THE PATTERN of the serpent at the tree , the devil when he tempted JESUS .
IT always comes with a scripture , and it will quoate it verbatum .
BUT ITS GOAL IS to cause DISOBEDIANCE TO GOD .
GO ahead , CAST THYSELF OFF THIS CLIFF , said the devil to JESUS
IT IS WRITTEN HE WILL GIVE HIS ANGELS CHARGE OVER THEE .
BUT the devil said this reminder mixed in with the lie to cast yourself off
WHICH WOULD HAVE MEANT TO TEMPT GOD . JESUS KNEW BETTER
and by grace the lambs do too .
THEY USE the scripture that says GOD IS LOVE .
Now watch this my friend .
Notice how they use it and then you TELL ME who YOU THINK IS BEHIND THIS MINDSET .
VISUALIZE THE SERPENT at the TREE .
HAS CHRIST, GOD , really said That if one beleives on CHRIST he will be saved.
WHy yes sayeth the church , GOD did say that and that if one believeth not they will be damned .
NAY , NAY sayeth the serpent , GOD IS LOVE , HIS LOVE IS BROAD , YE SHALL NOT BE DAMNED
all ye need is love and do good to one another .
THE DEVIL IS SLICK JOHANN .
WHAT IS THE ONE GOAL OF SATAN . WHAT DOES HE COME TO DO . AND WHAT CAN HE NEVER DO .
The goal of satan is to cause UNBELIEF in GOD , in what HE has said . TO cause disobediance .
HE cometh to steal , to kill and to destroy . AND HE WILL NEVER and can never SET THE CAPTIVES FREE .
Satan will preach an ideal that allows folks to feel FREE TO SIN and IN SIN . BUT again HE cant set the captives free .
ONLY THE TRUTH can . JESUS can set one free from the power of sin and of the devil . But satan
DOES NOT want folks to know that or believe it
SO he preaches , GOD IS LOVE , JUDGE NOT YE HATERS , GOD IS LOVE HE accepts them all .

What does "Notice they can quoate scrips . LIKE love your nieghbor as yourself OR judge not lest ye be judged" and "they use it out of text to shut down correction" mean in English? Your excuse -- I type fast -- is nonsense.

"JUDGE NOT was never about us not judging" is totally absurd. It's basic English. And "JUDGE NOT is about CONDEMNING someone" is meaningless.

"JIM comes after me like i be a judgmental hater who knows not love" with good reason.

"This other social inclusive gospel , IS TRULY FALSE", yet you have never defined what you mean by "social inclusive gospel". Ever!

"YES it can preach truths . SO DID SATAN". So according to you, the father of lies preaches truths? LOL!!!

"But it will also use scrips OUT OF TEXT to present a LIE" means absolutely nothing.

"THEY USE the scripture that says GOD IS LOVE." Well, I have shocking news for you: God IS love. 1 John 4:8, "Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love. I know you don't understand that fundamental truth, but it's both basic Christian and Biblical.

"NAY , NAY sayeth the serpent , GOD IS LOVE" is total, unScriptural, warped nonsense! The serpent never said that!!!

But satan DOES NOT want folks to know that or believe it SO he preaches , GOD IS LOVE is a repeat of the same lie. No wonder you're so confused!!!

Again (and again and again): GOD IS LOVE! You can deny it all you want, but that is a fundamental, Biblical characteristic of God. John was right; you are wrong!

 

[amigo de christo]

What does "Notice they can quoate scrips . LIKE love your nieghbor as yourself OR judge not lest ye be judged" and "they use it out of text to shut down correction" mean in English? Your excuse -- I type fast -- is nonsense.

"JUDGE NOT was never about us not judging" is totally absurd. It's basic English. And "JUDGE NOT is about CONDEMNING someone" is meaningless.

"JIM comes after me like i be a judgmental hater who knows not love" with good reason.

"This other social inclusive gospel , IS TRULY FALSE", yet you have never defined what you mean by "social inclusive gospel". Ever!

"YES it can preach truths . SO DID SATAN". So according to you, the father of lies preaches truths? LOL!!!

"But it will also use scrips OUT OF TEXT to present a LIE" means absolutely nothing.

"THEY USE the scripture that says GOD IS LOVE." Well, I have shocking news for you: God IS love. 1 John 4:8, "Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love. I know you don't understand that fundamental truth, but it's both basic Christian and Biblical.

"NAY , NAY sayeth the serpent , GOD IS LOVE" is total, unScriptural, warped nonsense! The serpent never said that!!!

But satan DOES NOT want folks to know that or believe it SO he preaches , GOD IS LOVE is a repeat of the same lie. No wonder you're so confused!!!

Again (and again and again): GOD IS LOVE! You can deny it all you want, but that is a fundamental, Biblical characteristic of God. John was right; you are wrong!

GOD IS LOVE . the problem is , however , that men as well as satan can quoate the scrips and also say GOD is LOVE .
But rest assured they know neither GOD NOR HIS LOVE .
HEY jim since we are back on the subject of GOD IS LOVE .
You know the one we were on YESTERDAY .
Remember when i said SATAN can say GOD IS LOVE .
THEN YOU ACCUSED ME of saying unscriptural truths .
THEN I reminded YOU that SATAN HIMSELF SURE CAN QUAOTE SCRIPS .
YOU MIND proving me wrong through scrips .
OH wait , DONT you remember our conversation . And you accused me of being drunk
and yet i sure can remember it well .
So JIM , WILL YOU show me where i was wrong when i said SATAN SURE CAN QUOATE the scrips VERBATUM
yeah i actually said verbatum yesterday . YOU DO REMEMBER that conversation right .
YET i was the drunk one .

 

[BarneyFife]

What does "Notice they can quoate scrips . LIKE love your nieghbor as yourself OR judge not lest ye be judged" and "they use it out of text to shut down correction" mean in English? Your excuse -- I type fast -- is nonsense.

"JUDGE NOT was never about us not judging" is totally absurd. It's basic English. And "JUDGE NOT is about CONDEMNING someone" is meaningless.

"JIM comes after me like i be a judgmental hater who knows not love" with good reason.

"This other social inclusive gospel , IS TRULY FALSE", yet you have never defined what you mean by "social inclusive gospel". Ever!

"YES it can preach truths . SO DID SATAN". So according to you, the father of lies preaches truths? LOL!!!

"But it will also use scrips OUT OF TEXT to present a LIE" means absolutely nothing.

"THEY USE the scripture that says GOD IS LOVE." Well, I have shocking news for you: God IS love. 1 John 4:8, "Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love. I know you don't understand that fundamental truth, but it's both basic Christian and Biblical.

"NAY , NAY sayeth the serpent , GOD IS LOVE" is total, unScriptural, warped nonsense! The serpent never said that!!!

But satan DOES NOT want folks to know that or believe it SO he preaches , GOD IS LOVE is a repeat of the same lie. No wonder you're so confused!!!

Again (and again and again): GOD IS LOVE! You can deny it all you want, but that is a fundamental, Biblical characteristic of God. John was right; you are wrong!

If the type of communication exhibited here is what comes from the love that is God:

I'll take a heaping helping of the devil, please.

 

[Jim B]

GOD IS LOVE . the problem is , however , that men as well as satan can quoate the scrips and also say GOD is LOVE .
But rest assured they know neither GOD NOR HIS LOVE .
HEY jim since we are back on the subject of GOD IS LOVE .
You know the one we were on YESTERDAY .
Remember when i said SATAN can say GOD IS LOVE .
THEN YOU ACCUSED ME of saying unscriptural truths .
THEN I reminded YOU that SATAN HIMSELF SURE CAN QUAOTE SCRIPS .
YOU MIND proving me wrong through scrips .
OH wait , DONT you remember our conversation . And you accused me of being drunk
and yet i sure can remember it well .
So JIM , WILL YOU show me where i was wrong when i said SATAN SURE CAN QUOATE the scrips VERBATUM
yeah i actually said verbatum yesterday . YOU DO REMEMBER that conversation right .
YET i was the drunk one .

You have gone totally mad!

Men can quote the "scrips" and say "God is love" "But rest assured they know neither GOD NOR HIS LOVE". So you're saying that men (and women?) quote Scripture and don't know God or His love". You're including yourself, of course, in this truly bizarre statement. Are you saying that when you quote Scripture, you don't know God?

Satan never said "God is love"! John wrote that, so is John "Satan to you?

I bet that Satan, unlike yourself, can clearly express himself in English. Here is an example of your horrendous English: "SATAN [capitalized] SURE CAN QUOATE [misspelled] the scrips [a form of money] VERBATUM [misspelled] yeah i actually said verbatum [misspelled again] yesterday ."

And you claim that you can read and understand the King James Bible? Why do I doubt that? Gee, I wonder! It's like a second grader claiming to understand calculus.