Why Do Christians Not Honor The Sabbath?

[Rex]

Why Do Christians Not Honor The Sabbath?
Why didn't Jesus keep the sabbath according to the law?

Mark 7:6-8

John 5:8-9


John 9:14-16

 

[JB_Reformed Baptist]

Well, I typed in The Sabbath and the Sunday in the Christian Church by A.H.Lewis and came up with ...nothing. You do imply - actually you more than imply - ignorance when it comes to this topic. I had years of study with the SDA Church and I can assure you that they have done their homework re the Sabbath and Sunday. I really don't know what A.H.Lewis can add to what the SDAs (and I) already know. The thing is ...what do we really NEED to know other than THE FACT that the huge majority of Christians only adhere to NINE of the TEN commandments ...? Case pretty well closed, don't you think? And yet, if asked, they would claim that there are indeed TEN commandments! So, what gives here ...? Are there ten or are there nine?

SDA's are children in knowledge compared to SDB's when it comes to the sabbath. The SDB's history starts early 1600s and not to mention introduced it to the SDA's now called, back then. I too am familiar with SDA doctrine on the sabbath etc and my question is why go to a CULT to receive the TRUTH when there's a perfectly informed Baptist church who worships on the sabbath and has done so much longer than the SDA cult.

Since you're to incompetent to locate a link to Abram Lewis work I'll hunt it down, just to silence you.

 

[Rex]

Nothing to worry about JB KCKID is just establishing his own law and expects everyone to dance to his tune

 

[KCKID]

SDA's are children in knowledge compared to SDB's when it comes to the sabbath. The SDB's history starts early 1600s and not to mention introduced it to the SDA's now called, back then. I too am familiar with SDA doctrine on the sabbath etc and my question is why go to a CULT to receive the TRUTH when there's a perfectly informed Baptist church who worships on the sabbath and has done so much longer than the SDA cult.

I'm willing to listen to what the Seventh-day Baptists have to say about the Sabbath. Incidentally, the SDA Church is not considered a cult any more than ANY Christian denomination.

Since you're to incompetent to locate a link to Abram Lewis work I'll hunt it down, just to silence you.

Typing in the book title and author you gave and coming up with nothing has nothing to do with incompetence. Why are you such a nasty little man?

Nothing to worry about JB KCKID is just establishing his own law and expects everyone to dance to his tune

Such nonsense. Did "I" initiate the 7th-day Sabbath at Creation? Did "I" include the Sabbath command in the Ten Commandments? Again, nonsense. JB is, as far as I know, supporting the stance of the 7th-day Baptists and their 7th-day Sabbath-keeping. Perhaps he's not as 'onside' with you as you think except in regard to mocking and nastiness. The facts are, Rex, is that you are not as obedient to 'God's word' as you would have us believe . . .!

Tsk, tsk . . .

Why Do Christians Not Honor The Sabbath?
Why didn't Jesus keep the sabbath according to the law?

Mark 7:6-8

John 5:8-9


John 9:14-16

Because the Sabbath is not 'a law' per se but a 'delight' (Isaiah 58:13). We see Jesus comparing 'true' Sabbath-keeping to that of the legalistic Pharisees. But, we DO see Jesus honoring the Sabbath!

 

[Rex]

So you don't have an answer to my question you skipped over?
You sound very much like the self righteous, with your OP.

You suffer the same disease the Pharisees suffered from, making their own version of the law.
Straining at gnats yet swallowing camels

Why Do Christians Not Honor The Sabbath?
Why didn't Jesus keep the sabbath according to the law?

Mark 7:6-8

John 5:8-9


John 9:14-16

 

[JB_Reformed Baptist]

I'm willing to listen to what the Seventh-day Baptists have to say about the Sabbath. Incidentally, the SDA Church is not considered a cult any more than ANY Christian denomination.


Typing in the book title and author you gave and coming up with nothing has nothing to do with incompetence. Why are you such a nasty little man?



Such nonsense. Did "I" initiate the 7th-day Sabbath at Creation? Did "I" include the Sabbath command in the Ten Commandments? Again, nonsense. JB is, as far as I know, supporting the stance of the 7th-day Baptists and their 7th-day Sabbath-keeping. Perhaps he's not as 'onside' with you as you think except in regard to mocking and nastiness. The facts are, Rex, is that you are not as obedient to 'God's word' as you would have us believe . . .!

Tsk, tsk . . .



Because the Sabbath is not 'a law' per se but a 'delight' (Isaiah 58:13). We see Jesus comparing 'true' Sabbath-keeping to that of the legalistic Pharisees. But, we DO see Jesus honoring the Sabbath!

SDA's are a cult. No matter what anyone may say. They bring a completely other jesus to the table, so to speak. By the way how did you know that I am a little man. LOL

Finally, you want to learn from SDB's but I thought it was the SDA's that had all the answer's, at least according to them.

 

[KCKID]

So you don't have an answer to my question you skipped over?
You sound very much like the self righteous, with your OP.

You suffer the same disease the Pharisees suffered from, making their own version of the law.
Straining at gnats yet swallowing camels

I DID answer it above. How much more do you want . . .??

Rex, I really do feel the need to ignore you and your nastiness but I also feel obliged to answer questions when I'm asked/able to do so. You have alluded over and over again to the notion that YOU are obedient to God and are therefore a mouth-piece for God ...is that correct? Not only you but a few others on this forum. "I" on the other hand have stated any number of times that I am NOT obedient to Jesus (certainly not God!) as much as I should be and I'm also sometimes a hypocrite. In other words, I'm a 'sinner'. All I get from you, however, is self-piety and the innate tendency to mock me (and others) simply because I'm not you ...to which I say, thank God! I have always had a fascination for Arizona, however, so I'm a tad envious of your location. With regard to this topic ...the way I see it is that if you don't honor the 7th-day Sabbath then you are in violation of one of the Ten Commandments and therefore cannot claim to be obedient to God. Just admit to that, then we can be done with it.

 

[JB_Reformed Baptist]

I DID answer it above. How much more do you want . . .??

Rex, I really do feel the need to ignore you and your nastiness but I also feel obliged to answer questions when I'm asked/able to do so. You have alluded over and over again to the notion that YOU are obedient to God and are therefore a mouth-piece for God ...is that correct? Not only you but a few others on this forum. "I" on the other hand have stated any number of times that I am NOT obedient to Jesus (certainly not God!) as much as I should be and I'm also sometimes a hypocrite. In other words, I'm a 'sinner'. All I get from you, however, is self-piety and the innate tendency to mock me (and others) simply because I'm not you ...to which I say, thank God! I have always had a fascination for Arizona, however, so I'm a tad envious of your location. With regard to this topic ...the way I see it is that if you don't honor the 7th-day Sabbath then you are in violation of one of the Ten Commandments and therefore cannot claim to be obedient to God. Just admit to that, then we can be done with it.

You're a mischievous devil, aren't you. :mellow:

 

[KCKID]

SDA's are a cult. No matter what anyone may say. They bring a completely other jesus to the table, so to speak. By the way how did you know that I am a little man. LOL

ALL Christian denominations are a cult. Check it out.

You just sound like a little man ...actually, a tiny, tiny man . . .

Finally, you want to learn from SDB's but I thought it was the SDA's that had all the answer's, at least according to them.

I'm not above learning something new and I guess I am curious as to what the SDB's believe. I do realize that the SDBs have been around a lot longer than the SDAs so they obviously have credentials. You didn't mention that the book you endorsed was written by a Seventh-day Baptist and that's why I questioned its veracity.

You're a mischievous devil, aren't you. :mellow:

Um ...are you the alter-ego of Rex ...?

 

[JB_Reformed Baptist]

ALL Christian denominations are a cult. Check it out.

You just sound like a little man ...actually, a tiny, tiny man . . .


I'm not above learning something new and I guess I am curious as to what the SDB's believe. I do realize that the SDBs have been around a lot longer than the SDAs so they obviously have credentials. You didn't mention that the book you endorsed was written by a Seventh-day Baptist and that's why I questioned its veracity.



Um ...are you the alter-ego of Rex ...?

ALL Christian denominations are a cult. Check it out.

You just sound like a little man ...actually, a tiny, tiny man . . .


I'm not above learning something new and I guess I am curious as to what the SDB's believe. I do realize that the SDBs have been around a lot longer than the SDAs so they obviously have credentials. You didn't mention that the book you endorsed was written by a Seventh-day Baptist and that's why I questioned its veracity.



Um ...are you the alter-ego of Rex ...?

Try this link and grab the PDF version unless another suit's you. I received my material from another site run by SDB's but is no longer available. So I cannot verify the accuracy or quality of this sight. By the way it may take a little while to download due to size.

http://www.ebooksread.com/authors-eng/abram-herbert-lewis/a-critical-history-of-the-sabbath-and-the-sunday-in-the-christian-church-iwe.shtml

 

[bytheway]

What does the above have to do with the abrogation of the 7th-day Sabbath and the 'replacement Sabbath' of Sunday? Are there ten commandments or are there nine?

I'm not interested in days, not interested in religion either.I keep the Spirit of the whole law. Rest Bro. cease from your labors!

 

[JB_Reformed Baptist]

I'm not interested in days, not interested in religion either.I keep the Spirit of the whole law. Rest Bro. cease from your labors!

What's the spirit of the law?

 

[KCKID]

You're a mischievous devil, aren't you. :mellow:

I'm mischievous because I point out that someone who claims to be obedient to God and insists that others be obdeient to God is, in fact, NOT obedient to God? Do 'Bible-dwellers' have the monopoly on finger pointing? Sorry, there is such inconsistency involved within Christianity that I sometimes get confused and forget what the rules are . . .

 

[Rex]

I DID answer it above. How much more do you want . . .??

Rex, I really do feel the need to ignore you and your nastiness but I also feel obliged to answer questions when I'm asked/able to do so. You have alluded over and over again to the notion that YOU are obedient to God and are therefore a mouth-piece for God ...is that correct? Not only you but a few others on this forum. "I" on the other hand have stated any number of times that I am NOT obedient to Jesus (certainly not God!) as much as I should be and I'm also sometimes a hypocrite. In other words, I'm a 'sinner'. All I get from you, however, is self-piety and the innate tendency to mock me (and others) simply because I'm not you ...to which I say, thank God! I have always had a fascination for Arizona, however, so I'm a tad envious of your location. With regard to this topic ...the way I see it is that if you don't honor the 7th-day Sabbath then you are in violation of one of the Ten Commandments and therefore cannot claim to be obedient to God. Just admit to that, then we can be done with it.

Nice spin the table trick, I believe it was you that was in denial about homosexuality being a sin, and today as well. It was me that pointed out the difference between you and I was, I know my sins and repent and confess them. You on the other hand choose to relabel them as acceptable behavior. Your thread here is nothing but a vain attempt to persecute, I find noting in the bible that states that the Sabbath day was changed.


It would seem you're taking some liberty in your presumed personal knowledge of me as well, I have only pointed out the facts that you have stated openly.
It's called presumption, your hoping to find a weakness, your venomous remarks around these statements "below" only proves your pawing at thin air.

Though I have never made such statements I'm flattered you think so.

You have alluded over and over again
to the notion that YOU are obedient to God and are therefore a
mouth-piece for God ...is that correct?

The facts are, Rex, is that you are not as obedient to 'God's word' as you would have us believe . . .!


Tsk, tsk . . .

 

[JB_Reformed Baptist]

Nice spin the table trick, I believe it was you that was in denial about homosexuality being a sin, and today as well. It was me that pointed out the difference between you and I was, I know my sins and repent and confess them. You on the other hand choose to relabel them as acceptable behavior. Your thread here is nothing but a vain attempt to persecute, I find noting in the bible that states that the Sabbath day was changed.


It would seem you're taking some liberty in your presumed personal knowledge of me as well, I have only pointed out the facts that you have stated openly.
It's called presumption, your hoping to find a weakness, your venomous remarks around these statements "below" only proves your pawing at thin air.

Though I have never made such statements I'm flattered you think so.

Brother, his whole objective here was to stir, not edify. He received no satisfaction on the homosexual thread so he turned his attention to something provocative. Such is the spite of this HYPOCRITE.

 

[KCKID]

Nice spin the table trick, I believe it was you that was in denial about homosexuality being a sin, and today as well. It was me that pointed out the difference between you and I was, I know my sins and repent and confess them. You on the other hand choose to relabel them as acceptable behavior. Your thread here is nothing but a vain attempt to persecute, I find nothing in the bible that states that the Sabbath day was changed.

Please stay on topic. THIS is a thread about the Sabbath. AND, you say that you can find nothing in the Bible that states that the Sabbath day was changed. Bingo! That's what I've been saying all along. The thing is, we DO know that most Evangelical Christians don't honor the 7th-day Sabbath (as per the 4th-commandment), don't we? So, we're back to my original question: Why do Christians not honor the Sabbath thereby DIShonoring the 4th-commandment?

It would seem you're taking some liberty in your presumed personal knowledge of me as well, I have only pointed out the facts that you have stated openly.
It's called presumption, your hoping to find a weakness, your venomous remarks around these statements "below" only proves your pawing at thin air.

Well, I would hardly call my remarks 'venomous'. That's somewhat a stretch. You most certainly DO demean those who you say are not obedient to God's word so one might assume (or is that PREsume?) that you ARE obedient to God's word ...is that understandable? Incidentally, no one knows anyone personally on these forums ...we're just words on a screen and it's these words on the screen that I/we respond to. In real life you and I might be as close as brothers . . . :)

Though I have never made such statements I'm flattered you think so.

You HAVE strongly implied by your demanding that others be obededient to God that YOU are obedient to God. That said, are you going to honor the 7th-day Sabbath now that you know the Bible never said anything about its being changed to Sunday?

Brother, his whole objective here was to stir, not edify. He received no satisfaction on the homosexual thread so he turned his attention to something provocative. Such is the spite of this HYPOCRITE.

No fair ...you're wanting to take credit for something that I've already admitted to several times. One more time, I AM a hypocrite. It's because I am that I have need for a Savior.

Now, I know that I previously called you a tiny, tiny man (but I forgot to add, "with a whiny voice" ;) ) but are YOU big enough to come as clean as I have . . .?

 

[JB_Reformed Baptist]

Please stay on topic. THIS is a thread about the Sabbath. AND, you say that you can find nothing in the Bible that states that the Sabbath day was changed. Bingo! That's what I've been saying all along. The thing is, we DO know that most Evangelical Christians don't honor the 7th-day Sabbath (as per the 4th-commandment), don't we? So, we're back to my original question: Why do Christians not honor the Sabbath thereby DIShonoring the 4th-commandment?


Well, I would hardly call my remarks 'venomous'. That's somewhat a stretch. You most certainly DO demean those who you say are not obedient to God's word so one might assume (or is that PREsume?) that you ARE obedient to God's word ...is that understandable? Incidentally, no one knows anyone personally on these forums ...we're just words on a screen and it's these words on the screen that I/we respond to. In real life you and I might be as close as brothers . . . :)


You HAVE strongly implied by your demanding that others be obededient to God that YOU are obedient to God. That said, are you going to honor the 7th-day Sabbath now that you know the Bible never said anything about its being changed to Sunday?



No fair ...you're wanting to take credit for something that I've already admitted to several times. One more time, I AM a hypocrite. It's because I am that I have need for a Savior.

Now, I know that I previously called you a tiny, tiny man (but I forgot to add, "with a whiny voice" ;) ) but are YOU big enough to come as clean as I have . . .?

LOL! You're a sick puppy. :blink: I on the other hand, I am a SINNER SAVED BY GRACE.

 

[KCKID]

LOL! You're a sick puppy. :blink: I on the other hand, I am a SINNER SAVED BY GRACE.

You are a bane to Christianity, JB. Rex, I can handle. But you ...you are just plain nasty and I'll ignore you from now on.

 

[Trumpeter]

I'm not sure if the issue is irrelevant or really amounts to nothing as you say. I guess, when it all comes down to truths, it hardly matters what you or I think. Trumpeter certainly disagrees with you. So do the many Sabbath-keepers throughout the world. They also use the scriptures to support their belief that the Sabbath is a day to be honored for all eternity. I think one might run into problems when they use Paul's writings as a means to abrogate the Sabbath and substitute Sunday which many do when pressed for answers. Or they might otherwise apply (ambiguous) scriptures in a subjective sense such as "Jesus is our Sabbath rest" that I would wager no one really knows what that actually means. It just sounds meaningful. The Sabbath day was an actual 24-hour period (nothing subjective about it) that was blessed and sanctified at Creation ...LONG before the first Jew came along. Sure, it was later given to the Jews to observe because they were God's chosen people. And, they were to physically honor this day ...again, nothing subjective about it. But, does this really mean that once 'the chosen people' became/included the Gentiles that the blessed and sanctified day of Creation was no longer important?

Amen

 

[JB_Reformed Baptist]

You are a bane to Christianity, JB. Rex, I can handle. But you ...you are just plain nasty and I'll ignore you from now on.

Don't be like that pumpkin. Can't you take as good as you give. You come here with your homosexual agenda and from my knowledge ONLY frequent subjects around such a topic unless you're stirring up some trouble and you have the hide to suggest I'm the bane of Christianity.

You're delusional to say the least but I think more appropriately your disgustingly diabolical and you appeal is to the flesh and you have no business here. :mellow: