why God did it

[CoreIssue]

Why did God go through all of creation in so many layers instead of just creating the end result?

I believe that God covered every potential situation so in the end he could justly say no one is with excuse.

He created Adam and Eve perfect, but they were rebelled.

He left man on their own to get it right, but they failed, hence he flooded the world.

He shortened man's life and gave him a second chance, but man failed again. So he gave man law to guide them. But man fails again.

He gave man Christ, but man has failed again.

He will return to law with knowledge of Christ and his direct rule. But man will fail again.

So he will say enough and salvage those who did not fail to live with him for eternity.

Now for a bit of controversy, God created the Angels and they watched him create the earth. And I firmly believe in this biblical he did a pre-Adamic creation. Lucifer led them astray, so God destroyed all life on the earth and then started over with Adam and Eve.

Two thirds of the Angel's stayed with God and the four living creatures represent the pre-Adamics that stayed with God.

So God did flesh beings, spirit beings, beings that reproduced and those that did not reproduce. Every conceivable scenario. And he gave them all free will, so that they could freely love him or rebel. Thus, everything can stand before God at the end and not have an excuse claiming God was unjust, if only he had........

Think about it.

 

[Keraz]

Long ago, God, who has existed forever, formed the angelic beings, in order to serve Him in the Heavenly realms. There are a great number of angels and they have varying degrees of powers. The most powerful of these is Lucifer. [the light bearer]

It was a sad day for God when Lucifer began to aspire to take over God’s kingship. Lucifer said; “I will be like the Most High.” Isaiah 14:12-14. Then he convinced a third of the other angels to go with him in rebellion against God.


God had a dilemma. He couldn’t simply wipe out those beings that He had created, because as a perfect and righteous God, to arbitrarily destroy them would not prove His just sentence against them.

What was required were witnesses – intelligent, unbiased and independent jurors to sit at this trial of Lucifer and his followers, so that the defendants could not say to God- you are unjust. Job 34:10-12

So God thought about that universe that He had created in another dimension and tidied up a suitable planet in it. He prepared a beautiful garden, and then formed a man and a woman in His likeness. They were given free will over their actions.

God may have been quite happy had Adam and Eve continued in obedience to Him. However, I guess God knew that they wouldn’t and sin came into this world, which does give humans the choice between good and evil.

And so, the first civilization gradually fell into worse and worse sin, until God wiped them out with a great flood, saving only one family.

Once again, the population increased and God decided that one righteous man would father a nation that would become “a light to all nations” in order to show the world His ways and be a people who would become His jurors and His friends. Isaiah 43:10-11

God showed His love for these people by rescuing them from bondage in Egypt, giving them His laws and settling them into the Promised Land. According to His plan, they divided into two Kingdoms - the House of Judah and the House of Israel. 1 Kings 12:24

Sadly, even these peoples backslid into apostasy and idolatry. So, ‘God flung them out of His presence.’ Jeremiah 23:39 They went into exile among the nations of the world. The House of Judah remains a visible entity, but the House of Israel is lost to our knowledge – only to be identified when all twelve tribes are gathered into the Land.


Into Judah, God sent His Son, Jesus, to clearly tell all who would listen how to live righteously in God’s sight. In order to atone for men’s sins, there has to be a sacrifice.

Jesus made that sacrifice for all those who accept Him as savior, by His death on the Cross. He also demonstrated God’s power over death and Lucifer by rising to life again.


Now, nearly two thousand years later, most of Judah still refuse to recognize the Messiah, but Righteous Israel – those who love God and follow in His ways – await their redemption. Soon the Promised Land will be cleared of all wicked peoples, Jer. 12:14, and His Christian people will gather in it with great joy and gladness. Isaiah 35:10.
Ref: logostelos.info

 

[Timtofly]

This is all part of human's understanding called a gap theory. There was no gap. The 7th Day was 1000 years on earth, while God rested, before God created the Garden of Eden. Stars are the angels and created on the 4th day. The morning stars are the angels. The sons of God were created on Day 6. Satan watched for 1000 years down upon the sons of God and thinking the grass was greener on earth. Satan wanted to do creation his way.

 

[Naomi25]

Why did God go through all of creation in so many layers instead of just creating the end result?

I believe that God covered every potential situation so in the end he could justly say no one is with excuse.

He created Adam and Eve perfect, but they were rebelled.

He left man on their own to get it right, but they failed, hence he flooded the world.

He shortened man's life and gave him a second chance, but man failed again. So he gave man law to guide them. But man fails again.

He gave man Christ, but man has failed again.

He will return to law with knowledge of Christ and his direct rule. But man will fail again.

So he will say enough and salvage those who did not fail to live with him for eternity.

Now for a bit of controversy, God created the Angels and they watched him create the earth. And I firmly believe in this biblical he did a pre-Adamic creation. Lucifer led them astray, so God destroyed all life on the earth and then started over with Adam and Eve.

Two thirds of the Angel's stayed with God and the four living creatures represent the pre-Adamics that stayed with God.

So God did flesh beings, spirit beings, beings that reproduced and those that did not reproduce. Every conceivable scenario. And he gave them all free will, so that they could freely love him or rebel. Thus, everything can stand before God at the end and not have an excuse claiming God was unjust, if only he had........

Think about it.

It could be as you suggest, that God rolled things out the way they played in order than no man, or angel, or created thing, would have an excuse. Because it’s true, we don’t.

However, I think it more a matter of glory.

Ephesians 1:4-12
[4] For he chose us in him, before the foundation of the world, to be holy and blameless in love before him. [5] He predestined us to be adopted as sons through Jesus Christ for himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, [6] to the praise of his glorious grace that he lavished on us in the Beloved One. [7] In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace [8] that he richly poured out on us with all wisdom and understanding. [9] He made known to us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure that he purposed in Christ [10] as a plan for the right time -to bring everything together in Christ, both things in heaven and things on earth in him. [11] In him we have also received an inheritance, because we were predestined according to the plan of the one who works out everything in agreement with the purpose of his will, [12] so that we who had already put our hope in Christ might bring praise to his glory. …

Before the foundation of the world, God laid out his plan, for us, and we may suppose for everything else as well! That plan centred around Christ. Why? For his glory! A God who purposes all things to be good, and all remains good...is all very well, I suppose. But a God who begets free will, and then extends himself to ransom his creation...a loving outreach to those who accept...shows his glory and grace, his majesty.
I’ve heard it put before....every creature in creation will give glory to God, be it in their redemption or damnation...each giving acknowledgement to a God of justice and mercy. Some of us say to him “as you will”, giving him glory. And to some, God will say “as you will”, giving him glory. But in the end, glory will be on the author of all, where it belongs.

 

[Stumpmaster]

Why did God go through all of creation in so many layers instead of just creating the end result?

Because then it wouldn't be the end result.

When I contemplate the whole panorama of what exists in the past, present, and future, it proves to me what is possible. Everything that exists in nature proves what is possible. Within the parenthetical bookends of Divine Foreknowledge and Divine Intervention there are predetermined elements that make it possible for things to be the way they are, including the possibility for choices to be made, and so this finite reality is a sorting, processing milieu or environment that has a determining influence on the infinite reality to come. The interesting thing is that the END RESULT includes the obliteration from memory of this temporal reality.

Isa 65:16-17 That he who blesses himself in the earth shall bless himself in the God of truth; and he that swears in the earth shall swear by the God of truth; because the former troubles are forgotten, and because they are hid from mine eyes. (17) For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.