so even the Bible alone is not good enough you need your own personal interpretation or re-write of scripture
Why The Apostles Repeatedly Disobeyed the Risen Lord
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so even the Bible alone is not good enough you need your own personal interpretation or re-write of scripture
And have been in one as long as I've known you on this site. I pray for the likes of you.
BARNEY BRIGHT
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Everything that we need to know about God and the truth is in the scriptures. No matter what you think everything you need to know and be a complete servant of God is in the Bible. Timothy 3:16,17. I believe that scripture at 2 Timothy 3:16,17, it seems you don't. It is true that Jesus is working through that anointed church but as I said in another post that anointed church founded on Jesus Christ and who is the head of that church isn't and never has been the Roman Catholic or any Catholic church for that matter neither has it been any of the Protestant churches. These church's have taught many false ideas concerning the Only True God and his Only Begotten Son. I know you don't believe that and you certainly have the right to believe what you believe to be the truth, but I disagree with you.
BARNEY BRIGHT
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The apostle Peter was an imperfect human being who had inherited sin like the rest of us Just because he was called to be an apostle and was baptized with Holy Spirit doesn't mean he was more than a imperfect man. He was still an imperfect man who had inherited sin just like any other human. To try and teach people that Peter was a sinless man would be incorrect.
BARNEY BRIGHT
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Well, theefaith has been brainwashed to believe that these councils of men he admires are greater than Jesus and what he taught.
BARNEY BRIGHT
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I believe the scriptures you believe in the councils of men to be above scripture.
BARNEY BRIGHT
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Well, God's Holy Spirit is impeccable and not once did God inspire any man to write down any Trinity doctrine or hellfire doctrine or any doctrine of the immortality of the soul.
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1 Thessalonians 2:23 ---> And we also thank God constantly for this, that when you received the word of God, which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men but as what it really is, the word of God, which is at work in you believers.
2 Thessalonians 2:15 ---> So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught, whether by word of mouth or by letterfrom us.
Luke 10:16 ---> Whoever listens to you listens to me, and whoever rejects you rejects me, and whoever rejects me rejects the one who sent me.
Hebrews 13:7 ---> Remember your leaders, those who spoke the word of God to you..
just words of men
1 Thessalonians 2:23 ---> And we also thank God constantly for this, that when you received the word of God, which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men but as what it really is, the word of God, which is at work in you believers.
2 Thessalonians 2:15 ---> So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught, whether by word of mouth or by letterfrom us.
Luke 10:16 ---> Whoever listens to you listens to me, and whoever rejects you rejects me, and whoever rejects me rejects the one who sent me.
Hebrews 13:7 ---> Remember your leaders, those who spoke the word of God to you..
just words of men
BARNEY BRIGHT
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Everything that Jesus said and everything God inspired men to write down by his Holy Spirit is in the Bible. 2 Timothy 3:16,17 is true. You don't go beyond what is written in the scriptures. So you can think these councils of men are greater than Jesus Christ all you want but they're not, and I know you don't think you're seeing these councils of men as being greater than Jesus Christ but the fact that these councils are stating things that are not in the scriptures they are going beyond what is written down in the scriptures. No councils of men have more authority than Jesus so if they state things or issue commands that go beyond what scripture says, those councils of men are wrong, not the scriptures.
At Luke 10:16 These 70 people Jesus sent out by twos were not going beyond what Jesus had taught them, nor was he telling them to.
the apostles have the same Authority as Christ yes?
Scripture alone is not enough
Lk 24:32 And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?
Acts 1:15 peter stood up and opened the scripture to them
acts 8 the eunuch had scripture God sent an apostle to teach him
not Bible alone and a personal interpretation!
BARNEY BRIGHT
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All authorities are subject to Jesus. The apostle's authority isn't equal to Jesus' authority, the apostles are subject to him Jesus isn't subject to them.
The apostles themselves told people to not go beyond what is written. Everything that Jesus taught and everything the Holy Spirit inspired men to write down is in the scriptures. Everything you need to know or learn about God his Only Begotten Son and salvation eternal life is in the scriptures.
2 Timothy 3:16,17 as I said is true, it's obvious you don't believe that.
In Acts 1:15 the apostle Peter was simply quoting scripture that spoke of judas betrayal. Peter stayed within what was written he didn't go beyond what was written.
At Acts 8:26-36, Phillip asked the eunuch if he understood the scripture he was reading and the eunuch didn't so Phillip explain it to him, but there again, Phillip didn't go beyond what was written in the scriptures nor what Jesus had taught him. I also said I understand that with regard to the True Church, that Jesus is its foundation and that Jesus is the head of this Church which obviously would have Gods Holy Spirit and yes this is the way that Jesus is teaching his people, but as I said I don't believe the Roman Catholic Church or any Catholic church or protestant church is the church that Jesus is working through. If people, such as councils of men, say something that is within scripture that doesn't go beyond what is written down, I will agree with it if not I will not agree with it
Luke 24:32 these men were simply stating they were loving what this person was saying, who was actually Jesus Christ although at the time they didn't know that, until Jesus broke bread with them, then he disappeared. Here again, this person who was Jesus didn't go beyond what he had already taught before his death. In none of these scriptures did anyone go beyond what was written or what Jesus had already taught.
Bible alone is enough, scriptures such as 2 Timothy 3:16,17 and others is proof of that.
BARNEY BRIGHT
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Jesus Christ occupies an elevated position in the heavens, and much authority has been given to him. His authority is above the authority of his Apostles. The apostles didn't go beyond what is written in the scriptures. God “subjected all things under Jesus feet and made him head over all things with regard to the congregation.” Ephesians 1:22. The apostle Paul said of Jesus: “God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every other name, so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend, of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the ground, and every tongue should openly acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.” Philippians 2:9-11
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