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Discussion in 'Eschatology & Prophecy Forum' started by Enoch111, May 24, 2020.

  1. Jay Ross

    Jay Ross Well-Known Member

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    The problem is that your matching of history to the scriptures is flawed as is your understanding of who or what the five beasts of Daniel 7:1-12 are.

    In the Statue prophecy in Daniel 2 your historical reference that the Roman Empire had dominion over the Lands of the Chaldeans is also flawed. Nor do you acknowledge that Jeremiah 50-51 has significant prophetical insight into the events that will occur in the Land of the Chaldeans, and which Daniel glosses over, although there is a hint of his surprise about the fourth segment of the statue, but he give no indication of when that will occur. His words of "and the fourth kingdom" gives no indication of when it will appear within the history of the earth. Revelation 16:17-21 does indicate when the fourth kingdom over the land of the Chaldeans will occur. Jeremiah 50 also gives an indication of when the fourth kingdom in the Land of the Chaldeans will be. Our modern history over the last 100 plus years does confirm this fact with respect to the fourth kingdom in the statue prophecy. Jeremiah 50-51 also reveals the fifth kingdom that will have dominion over the Land of the Chaldeans and our history of the present times also confirm for us the make up of the nations associated with the fifth kingdom.

    But you have your theory as to the truth of the matter, and you defend your understanding through ridicule and bullying without providing conclusive evidence to back it up.

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  2. Bobby Jo

    Bobby Jo Well-Known Member

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    You don't know what Scripture says and what History documents, and don't care. So why waste both of our time when you don't want to be confused by the FACTS?!?

    Furthermore, your bizarre doctrines assert a Dan. 2 "coalition of the willing" but can't specify which nations; then assert that Dan. 7 is magically "spiritual" because your "coalition" contradicts those depictions. But adherence to FALSE religious teaching REQUIRE a dishonest/disreputable/disingenuous parrot.

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  3. Bobby Jo

    Bobby Jo Well-Known Member

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    If you examine historical maps, you should find that Rome conquered vast amounts of land previously occupied by both the Babylonian and Medo/Persian Empires.

    Do you have access to historical maps?

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    Bobby, we have not exchanged much dialogue on the bases of scripture, so your above statement is absorbed. Your claim is a false argument and an attempted put down of the person rather than present a useful argument to advance the discussion.
     
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    Your quoted generalised statement above is true but maps are a pictorial representation of what the truth may be claimed to be. It is not a fact.

    The works of Josephus suggests that Rome did send an army to the land of the Chaldeans, but they returned empty handed from that expedition as the the land had been devastated and desolated because the Grecian Empire that had initially captured the Land of the Chaldeans from the Medes and Persians, had stripped the land of the Chaldeans of the utilities and the people and transported them to another part of their empire. The Roman Army returned without establishing even an outpost in the land of the Chaldeans. As such they had no dominion over the Land of the Chaldeans which tells me that your theories are flawed..

    This fact of the Land of the Chaldeans being devastated and desolated is recorded in both the scriptures and history, with the historical record confirming the biblical prophecy that the land would not be inhabited for a period of some 2,000 years.

    I have previously present facts about the resent establishment of a kingdom in the Land of the Chaldeans within the last 100 years from both the scriptures and our modern history that covers this time period.

    You have not presented any argument to discount what I have previously posted.

    The usual argument that the Roman Empire is the fourth segment of the Statue Prophecy in Daniel 2 is that the Roman Empire was a world power that also had dominion over the land occupied by the nation of Israel during the time of Christ and that the Roman Empire also devastated and desolated the Land occupied by the Jews some 2,000 years ago. Neither have you presented and scripture that spoke about the return to the Land of Abraham's sojourn after he was called by God to wall in God's Earth.

    You claim that your historical evidence supports your theories, but unfortunately the scriptural evidence does not.
     
  6. Bobby Jo

    Bobby Jo Well-Known Member

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    JR, you are MAGICAL. You can REFUTE World History; you can cite IMAGINARY nation alliances; you can "explain" one Chapter, but DISMISS another Chapter; -- your imagination can create a completely different world than the one that exists.
    And it's all because you're so INDOCTRINATED INTO YOUR RELIGION, that you parrot their lies without any conscience.

    And so while you were still on IGNORE I attempted to communicate, but no more.
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