Why was there a reformation?

[theefaith]

One I know who makes such claims has a list, and he himself can make one born again.

But as for me, I just seek for many years and then he just turned up out of the blue and bingo I was Saved, just like that, 100% faith in Jesus Christ ! not 99% faith.
It was because I knew who he truly was.

Now I thought I knew who he was due to others and etc, all the worldly point's of views, but This one can not explain into words so much, you have to experience such to truly understand.
True Christianity is a relationship with Jesus Christ himself. he is with you and will never leave one who is truly born again.
It's just like the second coming will be to all who are alive at the Coming.

Now I had much faith as anyone I ever knew before hand in Jesus being the Christ, but I was filled with the Holy Spirit with no doubt from that point on, I could not turn back, I was Saved !
You know I read the Bible everyday for years before that day.
I was raised to be a Christian from my family, so I do not remember not being a Christian and I went to Church and Bible study and Loved that ! But when I was truly Saved then I had to come out from them. Only Jesus Christ was my Salvation from then on, I did not need them and their worldly religion dribble anymore. such as them only made me feel ill, for they are so wrapped up in worldly works, not to mention them who preach about worldly works in fact do so themselves, only they do not understand that they are doing so.

Look, as to our regards the only thing worthy of God is to do his will. abide in him and the works done are in his Name only, it's not of ourselves at all but is from him. we do not abide in Mans works, such things can be burnt up, because they are not worthy of God in fact they don't cut it.

No one can burn up what is Christ Jesus at all, it stands forever regardless. It's the power of the Holy Spirit.
No one can take on the Holy Spirit ! No one not even the Devil himself could, the poor tempting bastard lost directly ! Jesus wiped the floor with him.

Explain please how you’re saved!

past tense over and done!

matt 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Matthew 10:22
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

Mark 13:13
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Rev 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

Heb 3:14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;

Heb 6:11 And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the end:

1. Romans 11:22 – God’s kindness, if you continue in His kindness

2. Colossians 1:21-23 – holy and blameless, if you continue in the faith"

3. The race of faith: the example of Paul

4. Hebrews 12:22-25: "we shall not escape if we turn away from Him"

5. Hebrews 4:1-3, 9-12: "strive to enter the rest of God"

6.Hebrews 6:4-9 – those who became partakers of the holy spirit and fell away

7. Hebrews 10:23-29, 35-39: "if we sin willfully", "if anyone draws back".

8. Matthew 24:13: He that endures to the end, the same shall be saved

9. Hebrews 3:4-6: Holding fast our confidence firm until the end

10. Matthew 24:13: "But the one who endures to the end will be saved"

11. 1 John 2:24-25 – "if what you heard from the beginning abides in you"

12. 2 John 8-9 : to "everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ

13. 2 Peter 1:5-11 : "Make every effort to supplement your faith"

14. Philippians 2:12-16: "work out your salvation with fear and trembling"

15. 1 Timothy 6:10-16: the love of money

16. Galatians 5:2-4 "Severed from Christ"

17. 2 Timothy 2:11-13: "if we deny him, he will also deny us"

18. James 5:19-20: the wandered brother

19. Some will abandon the faith

20. 1 Timothy 5:8: "he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever"

22. The real family of Jesus: "Those who hear the Word of God and do it"

23. 1 Corinthians 5:5: "so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord"

24. Peter 2: "It would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness"

25. Jude: "Turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness" - a much relevant warning

26. 1 Cor. 9:27 ....Lest I myself might become a castaway

Romans 13:11
And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.

So salvation by “faith alone” is completely false and impossible!

 

[Bobby Jo]

...

Hey Reggie,

"Truman" tried to open a "Conversation" with you expressing his appreciation for having known you here on-line, but was unsuccessful (apparently your setting block "Conversations"), and he asked me to convey his message to you!

With Very Best Regards,
Bobby Jo & ELAM

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[Reggie Belafonte]

Hey Reggie,

"Truman" tried to open a "Conversation" with you expressing his appreciation for having known you here on-line, but was unsuccessful (apparently your setting block "Conversations"), and he asked me to convey his message to you!

With Very Best Regards,
Bobby Jo & ELAM

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Yes I would be open to such conversations to all on this forum, but my wife forbids such. so I had to close such.

 

[Bobby Jo]

Yes I would be open to such conversations to all on this forum, but my wife forbids such. so I had to close such.

Yeah, I actually have a similar problem. ELAM wants to PERSONALLY invite people up to the cabin, and it's ME who has to temper his communications.

With VERY Best Regards,
Bobby Jo & ELAM

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[Reggie Belafonte]

Explain please how you’re saved!

past tense over and done!

matt 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Matthew 10:22
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

Mark 13:13
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Rev 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

Heb 3:14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;

Heb 6:11 And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the end:

1. Romans 11:22 – God’s kindness, if you continue in His kindness

2. Colossians 1:21-23 – holy and blameless, if you continue in the faith"

3. The race of faith: the example of Paul

4. Hebrews 12:22-25: "we shall not escape if we turn away from Him"

5. Hebrews 4:1-3, 9-12: "strive to enter the rest of God"

6.Hebrews 6:4-9 – those who became partakers of the holy spirit and fell away

7. Hebrews 10:23-29, 35-39: "if we sin willfully", "if anyone draws back".

8. Matthew 24:13: He that endures to the end, the same shall be saved

9. Hebrews 3:4-6: Holding fast our confidence firm until the end

10. Matthew 24:13: "But the one who endures to the end will be saved"

11. 1 John 2:24-25 – "if what you heard from the beginning abides in you"

12. 2 John 8-9 : to "everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ

13. 2 Peter 1:5-11 : "Make every effort to supplement your faith"

14. Philippians 2:12-16: "work out your salvation with fear and trembling"

15. 1 Timothy 6:10-16: the love of money

16. Galatians 5:2-4 "Severed from Christ"

17. 2 Timothy 2:11-13: "if we deny him, he will also deny us"

18. James 5:19-20: the wandered brother

19. Some will abandon the faith

20. 1 Timothy 5:8: "he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever"

22. The real family of Jesus: "Those who hear the Word of God and do it"

23. 1 Corinthians 5:5: "so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord"

24. Peter 2: "It would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness"

25. Jude: "Turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness" - a much relevant warning

26. 1 Cor. 9:27 ....Lest I myself might become a castaway

Romans 13:11
And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.

So salvation by “faith alone” is completely false and impossible!

It is in Matt 24:13 !

One is not saved by faith ? but by the faith that can move mountains ! That's why we see that the Bible points out Oh you of little faith ?

Now Faith is good ! but solid faith is more or what Truly worthy to God and that's it is why She can move Mountains ! because She is the epitome of Christ Jesus working in you. with God such is possible. It's what is strived for Prayed for and cherished above all. She is one with God !

So we have Faith that is the substance of ? and like the parable of the weeds she can be strangled by the cares of this world.
I have seen all of the people that I went to Bible study back in the 70's and how many of them still have faith at all ? I am sad to say, no ashamed to say how many have turned away. not to mention that come to me and say, You still do not believe all that crap do you, and I say, More then ever ! I am thoroughly invested In our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. not to mention I will sit down with them till the cows come home if they desire.
So the seeds sprouted up and took hold of the Truth, I seen that at work in people and their conviction, but the roots did not take hold or the weeds choked the word. Now I could easy of been one of them but I persisted, I had waves high and low to battle but I was serious in all things and came out the other side of that storm. so this a Tree she can endure to the end come hell or high water. so when the Devil toss something at me, I have a baseball Bat of sorts one may say and I just serve such back directly, return to sender.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Yeah, I actually have a similar problem. ELAM wants to PERSONALLY invite people up to the cabin, and it's ME who has to temper his communications.

With VERY Best Regards,
Bobby Jo & ELAM

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My wife has a lot to read coming in and does not want more traffic coming in, but she has to read everything and such takes into her time. so she said stop this stuff ! as it does her head in and starts freaking out.
So ok her wish is my command.

 

[theefaith]

It is in Matt 24:13 !

One is not saved by faith ? but by the faith that can move mountains ! That's why we see that the Bible points out Oh you of little faith ?

Now Faith is good ! but solid faith is more or what Truly worthy to God and that's it is why She can move Mountains ! because She is the epitome of Christ Jesus working in you. with God such is possible. It's what is strived for Prayed for and cherished above all. She is one with God !

So we have Faith that is the substance of ? and like the parable of the weeds she can be strangled by the cares of this world.
I have seen all of the people that I went to Bible study back in the 70's and how many of them still have faith at all ? I am sad to say, no ashamed to say how many have turned away. not to mention that come to me and say, You still do not believe all that crap do you, and I say, More then ever ! I am thoroughly invested In our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. not to mention I will sit down with them till the cows come home if they desire.
So the seeds sprouted up and took hold of the Truth, I seen that at work in people and their conviction, but the roots did not take hold or the weeds choked the word. Now I could easy of been one of them but I persisted, I had waves high and low to battle but I was serious in all things and came out the other side of that storm. so this a Tree she can endure to the end come hell or high water. so when the Devil toss something at me, I have a baseball Bat of sorts one may say and I just serve such back directly, return to sender.

yes faith and works and sacraments in Christ thru grace
Grace is the power of God!

 

[marksman]

You mean Protestant sects not a church
There is only one church founded by Christ on Peter and the apostles Matt 16:18 Jn 10:16

So you keep saying again and again and again and again. Give it rest as it is irrelevant.

 

[marksman]

yes faith and works and sacraments in Christ thru grace
Grace is the power of God!

look at Acts 2 v 38. Where does it say sacraments there?

 

[theefaith]

So you keep saying again and again and again and again. Give it rest as it is irrelevant.

the church is necessary for salvation and cannot be irrelevant

 

[theefaith]

look at Acts 2 v 38. Where does it say sacraments there?

baptism is the first sacrament
The initiation into Christ and the new covenant church

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.


1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

 

[theefaith]

It’s not a do it yourself religion!
It’s not a bible study!

It’s a covenant!

Not by “faith alone”
“Faith alone” not biblical
You may think “Accept Jesus Christ as you personal Lord and savior” is biblical but there is no such verse in your bible!

Faith and the sacraments in the church founded by the authority Christ on Peter and the apostles is biblical!

Faith and baptism is the biblical initiation into the new covenant and member is Christ and His holy church!
Ez 36:25-27 Mk 16:16 acts 8:36-38

You cannot enter a covenant by “faith alone” must be a ritual outward sign!
Faith and baptism! Mk 16:16 acts 8:36-38

Merits of christ’s passion, death, and precious blood are applied in the sacraments! Jn 1:16

Colossians 1:20
And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

Matt 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Acts 22:16
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Rom 3:24
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

1 pet 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

Heb 10:22
Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

Acts 2:47
Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Lk 1: 72 To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant;

73 The oath which he sware to our father Abraham,

74 That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,

There is only one true church founded by Christ on Peter and the apostles and their successors is the new covenant body of Christ! Matt 1:18 & Jn 10:16 one fold

1 Timothy 3:15
But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

Christ and His church are one: acts 9 why persecute me?

Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,


Sacraments are the fruit of the sacrifice!
The holy sacrifice of Christ, His passion, blood, and death producing unlimited fruits of divine grace, actual and sanctifying grace! Jn 1:29 Jn 1:16-17 Jn 10:10


“This promise” (sacred oath of God or sacrament) of the Father acts 2:38-39 with reference to ez 36:25-27 Also a mystery Mk 4:11 Eph 5:32 eph 6:19 1 Tim 3:9 3:16 Col 1:27 2:2 4:3

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Ez 36:25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Jn 3:5 born again by water and the spirit.

Heb 7:21 For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec
(Oath = sacrament)

Hebrews 8:6
But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. Based on Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:


A promise is a sacred oath or sacrament!
Baptismal regeneration is the promise of the Father for union in the new covenant!

The church and the seven sacraments are necessary for salvation

Better covenant on better promises

2 Timothy 1:1
Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, according to the promise of life which is in Christ Jesus,

Life of supernatural grace merited by Christ in His passion and death!

An oath to sacramental life in the new covenant in union with the mediator and communion with God, and the saints!

Promise of the Father acts 2:23-39
Promise is an oath and an oath is a sacrament! This promise of the sacrament of baptism refers to ez. 36:25-27

 

[theefaith]

God breathed life into Adam, gen 2:7 and we received this life from our fathers!

Christ breathed on the apostles our spiritual fathers, we receive the new covenant life of God’s grace from them thru faith & baptism! Jn 20:21-23 Mk 16:16 acts 8:36-38


Christian ritual of baptism:
Immersion, sprinkling, pour pure water over the forehead three time with the words, I baptize thee in the name of the father, and of the son, and of the Holy Spirit! Ez 36:25-27 Mk 16:16 Matt 28:19 Acts 2:38-39 Acts 8:36-38 Acts 22:16
1 Pet 3:21

Proper intention: to make a new creature in Christ, to put on Christ, initiation into the new covenant of grace
Matter: pure water
Form: the words

Born again! Born from above!


'The Father has set his seal' on Christ (John 6:27) and also seals us in him (cf. 2 Corinthians 1:22; Ephesians 1:23, 4:30). Because this seal indicates the indelible effect of the anointing with the Holy Spirit in the sacrament of Baptism,

Baptism indeed is the seal of eternal life." 87 The faithful Christian who has "kept the seal" until the end, remaining faithful to the demands of his Baptism, will be able to depart this life "marked with the sign of faith," 88 with his baptismal faith, in expectation of the blessed vision of God - the consummation of faith - and in the hope of resurrection.

St. Paul tells the faithful at Ephesus that they have been “sealed with the promised Holy Spirit.” This is in terms of an indelible character imprinted on the soul in the sacraments of baptism and confirmation. It is not as if this invisible mark is simply decorative. Rather, through it, we are enabled to participate in Christ’s mission and in his offices of priest, prophet, and king. Eph 1:13

Sealed by God eph 1:13 sealed by God (ez 36:25-27) in the ark of salvation by baptism just as Noah was sealed by God in the ark of the flood gen 7:16

1 Pet 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!
(Ark of Noah a type of the church, member of Christ and his church and salvation by baptism!)
(Outside the ark of Noah none were saved, outside the church (the ark of salvation) none are saved!)

Sealed in the ark, sealed in the church the ark of salvation by baptism!

 

[quietthinker]

Why was there a reformation?
because you needed it!