Why Will "all nations" attack Israel?

[ScottA]

You should have read all the Bible.

Amos 9:14-15
14 I will bring back the captives of My people Israel;

And He did!

15 I will plant them in their land, And no longer shall they be pulled up From the land I have given them," Says the LORD your God.

And He did and they won't no matter how many BILLIONS of wannabees try to evict them, to their own demise and cursing their own families! The enemies of Israel and their families are CURSED!

Red the Curse wannabees. Get a glimpse of your future and your familie's future.

You should have understood that to be the Holy Land, it was not of this world. But yes, God has brought them back--with Him, in Him.

 

[ProDeo]

Every one of your comments/questions can be answered with "It is finished."

But, no, advocating for doing a battle that Christ already won over again, is against God.


It's in the Bible: "It is finished." The only reason for wanting more, would be for unbelief.

And no I am not a Preterist. What I have said is what Jesus said--and that is not what Preterism is. Why don't you learn what Preterism is before making accusations? See how you revealed your ignorance?


No, "It is finished." But it does sound like your war against God is not finished yet. If you expect God to do a do-over war that He has already won--you are in the middle of it. "It is finished" for Him, but not for you.

“It is finished.” Found only in the Gospel of John, the Greek word translated “it is finished” is tetelestai, an accounting term that means “paid in full.” When Jesus uttered those words, He was declaring the debt owed to His Father was wiped away completely and forever. Not that Jesus wiped away any debt that He owed to the Father; rather, Jesus eliminated the debt owed by mankind—the debt of sin.

Source : gotquestions.

 

[ScottA]

Here is one passage you have rewritten.

You follow the basic cultist way . "I know what is written, but this is what it really means". NO I do not lie!

If it is given to me to clarify as God has done many times, you are only typical in your response by not knowing any better. It means nothing more than you fall into a repeated pattern.

 

[ScottA]

To your terror, you will find out that Jesus will return in a glorified flesh and bone body to fight against the antichrist and the armies of the world who have taken the mark and defeat them and establish a 1000 year kingdom, just as it is written in the Holy Spirit inspired Word of God.

Jesus has returned and continues to return ("but each on in his own order" as it is written), "in the glory of the Father" whom is spirit, but you deny it. Typical.

 

[ScottA]

Which doctrines are false? So far you have only argued that the physical return of Jesus is false. You have yet to expalion what happened to His physical body after He ascended and disappeared out of sight with Scripture.

You just quoted me explaining which doctrines, but still you deny it. Typical.

 

[ScottA]

YOu are ignorant of Scripture. Teh tetelestai or It is finished cry of Jesus does not refer to battles against nations. It does refer to the fact that when Jesus cried thiis out, the full and complete payment for all of mankinds sins had been paid. there is no other poayment accepted. Paul spoke of this on the cross. It is not some ethereal battle.

"Ethereal"--that is your reference to heaven. Typical. Sad. Very sad.

 

[ScottA]

“It is finished.” Found only in the Gospel of John, the Greek word translated “it is finished” is tetelestai, an accounting term that means “paid in full.” When Jesus uttered those words, He was declaring the debt owed to His Father was wiped away completely and forever. Not that Jesus wiped away any debt that He owed to the Father; rather, Jesus eliminated the debt owed by mankind—the debt of sin.

Source : gotquestions.

Yes, but the point is the same: The war that some say is still yet to come, is over. To deny this, is to deny Jesus' complete victory...that all is not paid in full, but that there is still a battle ahead.

 

[quietthinker]

Why Will "all nations" attack Israel?​

Do you know Jack?

 

[ProDeo]

Yes, but the point is the same: The war that some say is still yet to come, is over. To deny this, is to deny Jesus' complete victory...that all is not paid in full, but that there is still a battle ahead.

There is no shred of evidence Zach chapters 12-14 already happened. Instead it is the best evidence of Jesus physical return.

If you insist Zach chapters 12-14 already happened by spiritual reasoning based on it is finished then also all of Revelation must have happened spiritually. So, the new heavens, the new earth, the new Jerusalem are finished. Right?

Explain.

 

[ScottA]

There is no shred of evidence Zach chapters 12-14 already happened. Instead it is the best evidence of Jesus physical return.

If you insist Zach chapters 12-14 already happened by spiritual reasoning based on it is finished then also all of Revelation must have happened spiritually. So, the new heavens, the new earth, the new Jerusalem are finished. Right?

Explain.

@all

So...there were no "false teachers" spreading "destructive heresies", no "strong delusion" and no "lie" and "the spirit of anti-Christ" was not "already at work" 2,000 years ago, Jesus did not "overcome the world", "all authority in heaven and earth" was not given to Him, the cross was not a total victory, and therefore "it is" [not] "finished" yet--Israel and "the Mount of Olives" was not "divided in their midst" like Jesus never even came, and "there is no shred of evidence" whatsoever--is that what you're saying, is all that what you don't believe?

Well...if that isn't a total abortion!

 

[ProDeo]

@all

So...there were no "false teachers" spreading "destructive heresies", no "strong delusion" and no "lie" and "the spirit of anti-Christ" was not "already at work" 2,000 years ago, Jesus did not "overcome the world", "all authority in heaven and earth" was not given to Him, the cross was not a total victory, and therefore "it is" [not] "finished" yet--Israel and "the Mount of Olives" was not "divided in their midst" like Jesus never even came, and "there is no shred of evidence" whatsoever--is that what you're saying, is all that what you don't believe?

Well...if that isn't a total abortion!

Nice change of subject, not.

I repeat my question, So, the new heavens, the new earth, the new Jerusalem are finished. Right?

I have read your blog, the one about time, in there you state :

The understanding of time itself.

You would the first human who understands time.

And you apply your (unproven) understanding of time in your theories such as Zach 12-14 already happened.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

If it is given to me to clarify as God has done many times, you are only typical in your response by not knowing any better. It means nothing more than you fall into a repeated pattern.

God has never needed editors like ScottA to clarify His simple Word. It was written so the common people could understand.

1 Corinthians 1:25-27

King James Version

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25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Jesus has returned and continues to return ("but each on in his own order" as it is written), "in the glory of the Father" whom is spirit, but you deny it. Typical.

You will find out that it is you who has succumbed to false teachings.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

You just quoted me explaining which doctrines, but still you deny it. Typical.

So are you saying the church has only been guilty of 2 false teachings then? Still haven't explained what happened to HIs physical body. It is not in Scripture so please enlighten us.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

"Ethereal"--that is your reference to heaven. Typical. Sad. Very sad.

NO that is you being a liar about what I say.

 

[ScottA]

Nice change of subject, not.

I repeat my question, So, the new heavens, the new earth, the new Jerusalem are finished. Right?

I have read your blog, the one about time, in there you state :

The understanding of time itself.

You would the first human who understands time.

And you apply your (unproven) understanding of time in your theories such as Zach 12-14 already happened.

I didn't change the subject, I gave an explanation of all that would not be if Zechariah 12-14 had not already happened. Which would mean cutting out much of the New Testament.

But why do you resort to making it personal? And why do you cling to time, and reject any explanation? Time is of this world, but the things of God are not.

 

[ScottA]

God has never needed editors like ScottA to clarify His simple Word. It was written so the common people could understand?

Why do you insist on showing all that you do not know and understand?

Jesus, speaking to those given to understanding, said:

Matthew 13:11​

He answered and said to them, “Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given.​

 

[ScottA]

You will find out that it is you who has succumbed to false teachings.

That's enough. I leave you to your blindness--which I only say...because I quoted what is true, and you reject it...as if I "will find out" differently than what is written.