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IIThess.2:11, 12 A fellow brother said God would never do such a thing where I referred him to this passage. He then stated he never heard of such a thing before. I let it go till now.
Old Jack
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Right when I get ready to do a little back slidin.......you have to come up with a scripture like this one...............started givin the demons some competition trembling.....tryin out for God's people have talent.......I can tremble with the best of them.shturt678s said:IIThess.2:11, 12 A fellow brother said God would never do such a thing where I referred him to this passage. He then stated he never heard of such a thing before. I let it go till now.
Old Jack
I had a jehovah's witness tell me my gettin saved was from satan...............I told him....well if that is the case....God can go to hell.....lforrest said:God is giving those who love and practice falsehood exactly what they want.
Another star, pumped up unto our Lord Godman Jesus....antichrist gets nothing...great!RANDOR said:Right when I get ready to do a little back slidin.......you have to come up with a scripture like this one...............started givin the demons some competition trembling.....tryin out for God's people have talent.......I can tremble with the best of them.
Back on the path........backing off the cookies to slip through the needle.
Wow! Even refers to their descendants also.keras said:Explain this verse;
Ezekiel 20:25 I even imposed on them statutes that were malign and Laws that would not lead to life.
Not meaning to put words in your mouth, but if my heart isn't right from our Lord's view then He will make sure I believe whatever religious lie I want to believe?lforrest said:God is giving those who love and practice falsehood exactly what they want.
Goin for it blood and guts, great!...pace yourself a little more...don't want you to run out of air before Sunday.RANDOR said:I had a jehovah's witness tell me my gettin saved was from satan...............I told him....well if that is the case....God can go to hell.....
because if He be messin with my head like that...He might as well.
So i told him....satan's kingdom cannot stand divided......satan does not come in and let you know your sins are forgiven and call it God.
Then you start serving his enemy.................jehovah's are a joke......................but hey........maybe...just maybe........the verse's provided above
are the heart beat of their tribes.
If someone wants to believe something they will. I think this verse is more of a matter of the heart than any particular religious lie. Do you prefer someone scratch your itching ears or tell you like it is.shturt678s said:Not meaning to put words in your mouth, but if my heart isn't right from our Lord's view then He will make sure I believe whatever religious lie I want to believe?
I agree... please note 1 Kings 22lforrest said:God is giving those who love and practice falsehood exactly what they want.
While the term 'delusion' might refer unto the belief or impression firmly held by a person or group despite it's being contradicted by whatshturt678s said:IIThess.2:11, 12 A fellow brother said God would never do such a thing where I referred him to this passage. He then stated he never heard of such a thing before. I let it go till now.
Old Jack
Look back at my false beliefs and old heart, I would have to agree with you. Thank you for your response again!lforrest said:If someone wants to believe something they will. I think this verse is more of a matter of the heart than any particular religious lie. Do you prefer someone scratch your itching ears or tell you like it is.
Thank you for your response!Angelina said:I agree... please note 1 Kings 22
18 And the king of Israel said to Jehoshaphat, “Did I not tell you he would not prophesy good concerning me, but evil?”
19 Then Micaiah said, “Therefore hear the word of the Lord: "I saw the Lord sitting on His throne, and all the host of heaven standing by, on His right hand and on His left. 20 And the Lord said, ‘Who will persuade Ahab to go up, that he may fall at Ramoth Gilead?’ So one spoke in this manner, and another spoke in that manner. 21 Then a spirit came forward and stood before the Lord, and said, ‘I will persuade him.’ 22 The Lord said to him, ‘In what way?’ So he said, ‘I will go out and be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.’ And the Lord said, ‘You shall persuade him, and also prevail. Go out and do so." 23 Therefore look! The Lord has put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these prophets of yours, and the Lord has declared disaster against you.”
also note: 2 Chronicles 18:21, 22.
Or they possibly don't have an agape for the truth when they see it? Now I'm even getting a little nervous?Saint said:and all who dwell on earth will worship it, everyone whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who was slain.
(Rev 13:8 ESV)
Maybe strong delusion is nothing more than they are not granted the ability to discern the real truth; God permits strong delusion to occupy their minds; so that they believe a lie rather than the truth.
I feel Mk.9:23 is the positive verse to the negative IIThess.2:10b-12....I go with the + with you.Forsakenone said:While the term 'delusion' might refer unto the belief or impression firmly held by a person or group despite it's being contradicted by what
is commonly accepted as common knowledge or factual information,
it is written in Mark 9:23 that Jesus said "If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth."
So a question to believers, are all things possible? Or, are all things possible by believing?
Is agape the right form of love here? Time to look at the Greek.shturt678s said:Look back at my false beliefs and old heart, I would have to agree with you. Thank you for your response again!
However as each decade goes by, I'm seeing more half truths in the churches as in the garden with Eve....although they are Christians for sure. Thus I'll be kicking around 'half truths,' 'religious lies,' 'heart condition,' and etc. with myself so it even makes sense to me.
Old Jack
Thank you for your response!
Wow! Obviously our Lord can and did play hard ball. Excellent example!
Old Jack that will be going over the former as has been sinfully awhile
Or they possibly don't have an agape for the truth when they see it? Now I'm even getting a little nervous?
Old Jack back to the drawing board
I feel Mk.9:23 is the positive verse to the negative IIThess.2:10b-12....I go with the + with you.
Old + Jack
You got it! We're are "able" to 'agape' the truth when we see or hear it...thank you Jesus! (IIThess.2:10b)Saint said:The key to Mark 9:23...."If you are able". Sure leaves a question if everyone is able doesn't it?
agape is the word used in the greek.lforrest said:Is agape the right form of love here? Time to look at the Greek.
Yes the righteous were saved just as it will be at the second coming...RANDOR said:The Christians escaped Jerusalem during the retreat of Cestius and fled to Pella escaping the destruction of Jerusalem.
And that is where Pella Windows came into business.
Thank you again my brother and friend!lforrest said:Is agape the right form of love here? Time to look at the Greek.
Ordering some Pella windows ASAP as need to escape where I presently live where they could care less about the Cross.RANDOR said:The Christians escaped Jerusalem during the retreat of Cestius and fled to Pella escaping the destruction of Jerusalem.
And that is where Pella Windows came into business.