Would Jesus Support MAGA?

[Bobby Jo]

He wouldn't get involved.

I think GOD and HIS ANGELS are MORE INVOLVED WITH HIS CREATION than you can imagine ...


Bobby Jo

 

[Bobby Jo]

How do you know that for sure?

?Because he's GOD?

Bobby Jo

 

[April_Rose]

?Because he's GOD?

Bobby Jo

Lol more like he thinks he is.

 

[Bobby Jo]

Imagine what the spiritual leaders of the day thought of Jesus calling out the Hypocrites. ...

WISE beyond years; Gracious beyond need; and Discerning beyond belief.

-- GOD's children HEAR their Master's Voice, and Proclaim HIS Purpose and Plans!
Bobby Jo

 

[amigo de christo]

How do you know that for sure?

His fruits my dear sister . But i do pray he one day will be . i even pray that for biden as well .
Biden claims to be a christain . But his fruits prove otherwise as well .
While trump might be the better choice , by far as president , his fruits prove he is not yet born again .
But keep praying for him dear sister .

 

[Bobby Jo]

His fruits my dear sister . ...

... such as revitalizing our economy, securing our border, bringing our troops to be back with their families, promoting our religious liberties, negotiating Peace between Israel and the Arabs, negotiating Peace in other war-torn regions, and declaring Jerusalem as the Capital of Israel and acknowledging Israel's possession of the Golan Heights.

And where EVERY OTHER NATION IN THE WORLD has the prerogative of declaring which city is their Capital, -- the world until Trump had DEFIED Israel's Sovereign Decision that Jerusalem was their Capital. And when Trump acknowledged their Sovereign Right, they named a "Square" after Trump in his honor.

And he did ALL THE ABOVE while proclaiming GOD and Jesus!


But some are as Shimei, who cursed King David, and suffered his penalty by death. And of such are in this Forum.
Bobby Jo

 

[Bobby Jo]

To All,

Many view Trump from a PERSONALITY CULT. Some LOVE the guy, some HATE the guy. But it seems to me that Christians are not in the business of "personality", where we fawn over LOOKS, CHARISMA, POWER, or whatever. GOD's Chosen are sent because they carry a message to an audience. So consider Daniel who was sent as a PROPHET -not to the Jews-, but to the Nations from the Most Powerful nation -- Babylon; and Trump & Pence who I believe were sent -not to the church-, but as the TWO WITNESSES to the Nations from the most Powerful nation -- the U.S.

And where Daniel's life was filled with governmental accomplishments, so too Trump & Pence; -- EACH as a Sent-Messenger to the world, -- which in our case will shortly destroyed.
Bobby Jo

 

[amigo de christo]

... such as revitalizing our economy, securing our border, bringing our troops to be back with their families, promoting our religious liberties, negotiating Peace between Israel and the Arabs, negotiating Peace in other war-torn regions, and declaring Jerusalem as the Capital of Israel and acknowledging Israel's possession of the Golan Heights.

And where EVERY OTHER NATION IN THE WORLD has the prerogative of declaring which city is their Capital, -- the world until Trump had DEFIED Israel's Sovereign Decision that Jerusalem was their Capital. And when Trump acknowledged their Sovereign Right, they named a "Square" after Trump in his honor.

And he did ALL THE ABOVE while proclaiming GOD and Jesus!


But some are as Shimei, who cursed King David, and suffered his penalty by death. And of such are in this Forum.
Bobby Jo

Lets take a look at what you call fruits . Revitalizing our economy , securing borders , lets throw
in making america great again , promoting religous liberties , negotiating peace ,
THEN take a peek at what hitler did , WHO I HOPE ya know was no christain .
HE did so much good for germany that Historians are on record as saying , IF HE had died before WW Two
HITLER would have went down as ONE of the MAJOR greats in history .
NOPE . that does not determine their fruits my friend . Trump has done some good , BUT as i said and continue
to say , HIS fruits DO Not prove HIM as a true born again christain . HE aint hitler either , BUT he is not born again .

 

[amigo de christo]

To All,

Many view Trump from a PERSONALITY CULT. Some LOVE the guy, some HATE the guy. But it seems to me that Christians are not in the business of "personality", where we fawn over LOOKS, CHARISMA, POWER, or whatever. GOD's Chosen are sent because they carry a message to an audience. So consider Daniel who was sent as a PROPHET -not to the Jews-, but to the Nations from the Most Powerful nation -- Babylon; and Trump & Pence who I believe were sent -not to the church-, but as the TWO WITNESSES to the Nations from the most Powerful nation -- the U.S.

And where Daniel's life was filled with governmental accomplishments, so too Trump & Pence; -- EACH as a Sent-Messenger to the world, -- which in our case will shortly destroyed.
Bobby Jo

The simple truth is , GOD places and sets up and GOD removes . GOD does as HE does . He sets up whom HE will .
But just as obama was not christain , AND I HOPE you KNOW THAT , trump is not either .

 

[amigo de christo]

Bobby , you now i love ya , but trump and pence are not the two witnesses . Now go ahead and vote for them
AND NOT for biden harris . But not a one of them , Biden , harris , or trump are , born again christains .
You can vote for Trump , But just know that well . BUT DO not , under any circumstance .
DO not , under even threat of harm or death , VOTE FOR BIDEN HARRIS twenty twenty .

 

[Bobby Jo]

... take a peek at what hitler did ...

Yeah, you imagine the BAD when GOD Sends the GOOD.

And Scripture is FILLED with people who are blind, and some of them are swallowed up by the earth.
Bobby Jo

 

[Bobby Jo]

... the two witnesses . ...

You don't know the TIMING according to Scripture -- and it's plain for all to see! You don't have to do any mathematical gymnastics LIES; or divine it from the NEWS; or even hear it from a "prophet". All you have to do is read the Book of Psalms in context with: Book 19 is prophetic to the Jews for the 1900's, Chapter for year, such that Book 19, Chapter 48 = 1948 International Recognition of the State of Israel; etc.

And given that TIMING, I would propose the identity of the TWO WITNESSES. -- But you can't even appreciate TRUMP as President, so how in the world can you appreciate him as potentially one of the TWO WITNESSES?!?



I guess YOU and JESUS are the only TWO SINLESS men, and Jesus didn't throw stones BUT YOU DO! So maybe you aren't as close to Jesus as you think ...
Bobby Jo

 

[liafailrock]

I kind of hope He would,.. but I'm not really sure what His political views would be. :/

You missed the whole point, friend. The Kingdom of God is already defined and as the Lord prayed "Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done in earth as it is in heaven." So it's his government. He puts people in power to achieve this end. He does not ask if someone is like his kingdom, allow him in and then sit back and hopes it works out. From our stance, vote in the person who you think will uphold the word of God an the Law of the land (the constitution) the best, and equally important but not as obvious, one who will direct the nation toward the direction you think God wants. And if you pray about it, in fact it's really the Lord voting so-to-speak. If we don't pray and do it ourselves, the Lord allows that and in effect turns the nation over to our devices whether good or bad, but usually the latter.

 

[rjs330]

No, I don't believe he would. Neither would he support socialism or marxism. Jesus was not political. Remember when he paid his taxes? He didn't say anything about it. He told people to give to ceaser what is Cesar's and God what is God's. He told the soldiers to be content with their pay.

He espoused no political views. He was ALL about the kingdom of God. Because he knew the kingdom was more important than any political views.

We are concerned about politics because they effect us on earth and the lives we live here. Our quality of life. Jesus had no quality of life as he had no place to lay his head. He cared only for the souls if man and the kingdom. He cared about how we lived our lives as members of the kingdom and not members of a political party.

We should not use Christ as a club to support any political ideology for everyone. The Bible is not a political book. It's a spiritual one with guidance to believers in how they should act as members of the kingdom and it's gospel message on how to find God, not how to run a country.

 

[Bobby Jo]

[Jesus] espoused no political views. ...

LIVING carries a "political view". Jesus said "sin no more", and we effect that practice personally, in our families, and in our society.

:shrug:
Bobby Jo

 

[rjs330]

LIVING carries a "political view". Jesus said "sin no more", and we effect that practice personally, in our families, and in our society.

:shrug:
Bobby Jo

That wasnt a political statement. It was a spiritual one. Jesus never provided a political force behind that statement. He was concerned for the woman's soul. Not establishing her political views.

 

[Ziggy]

Well, sin itself was the breaking of the law.
How could it not be political?
So Jesus told the woman, Stop breaking the law.
The law said if a woman was caught sinning they would kill you.
Jesus stepped in like the judge, looked at the jury, challenged them and won the case.
Isn't that political?

 

[Bobby Jo]

That wasn't a political statement. It was a spiritual one. ...

I can understand that people don't want any RESPONSIBILITY. They'd rather not be HOT or COLD, but prefer to be LUKEWARM. I get it!
Bobby Jo

 

[Bobby Jo]

I guess I missed this in the Main Stream Media:

Trump Admin Leads 32 Nations: No International ‘Right’ to Abortion

... it probably was an oversight.
Bobby Jo

 

[rjs330]

Well, sin itself was the breaking of the law.
How could it not be political?
So Jesus told the woman, Stop breaking the law.
The law said if a woman was caught sinning they would kill you.
Jesus stepped in like the judge, looked at the jury, challenged them and won the case.
Isn't that political?

God's law, not man's. The OT law was all about mans spirit and his separation from God. It wasn't about politics. Why was the law written? Was it in order to set up a political party, a political point if view? Of course not. The law was written to show man sin and then provide for sin to be covered by the sacrifices made.

There was no politics involved. Did God give man a vote for his law? No. Did Moses choose the law? No. God did. No man made government was involved in the Law.