WW3: What Should/Will It Look Like?

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You are using red herring fallacies to avoid the topic, and change to something unrelated and non-Trinitarian.
Yes, the best way for a person to confuse or end a discussion with another, is to accuse that other of not playing by the rules of church-ianity

When one claims that the concept of "Trinitarianism" out weighs the teachings of God's Holy Spirit through scripture, it is proof positive that their appeal to the "upper seats" of "the wisdom of men", is their last resort.

In your case, It's a "Pope thing", called pontificating.
 
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The Father remains in heaven while Jesus returns to the Earth. Same thing during the first coming. God's the Father's fire is not used during the second coming but until after the Millennium during satan's little season at the city of Jerusalem.
I am perceiving that you really don't know what happened  at Jesus' baptism, as well as the last moments  at His crucifixion, while He hung on the cross, and then that of His resurrection.

Q. Was there ever a time when God the Father joined Jesus while He was in the flesh?

Q. Was there ever a time that God the Father had forsaken Jesus?

Q. Was there ever a time when God the Father re-joined Jesus?

Mat. 3
[16] And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him,
and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:

Mat. 27
[46] And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say,
My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
("forsaken":
Strongs G1459: to desert, leave), aka to abandon.

Acts 2
[31] He [David] seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
[32]
This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
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In support of the above, please see the following scriptures:
John 14:23; John 16:7, 12-16; Luke 17:21; Rom. 8:8-9; 1 John 5:12-13; Rev. 3:20.


So now that Jesus has been glorified through His resurrection, He is no longer forsaken of God the Father, and is now NOT alone. Luke 17:21 and John 14:23..... is 1 John 5:12-13.
While Jesus was in the likeness of our mortal flesh on earth, He Himself, having His Father within Him, was the "Comforter" through His mortal flesh. John 14:28; John 16:7.
But NOW, since His Ascension and Pentecost, they, being One God, have extended themseleves Together in Jesus and through the Immortality of Jesus, being the Gift of themselves to usward, "ANOTHER COMFORTER", by They together, who ARE EACH of Holy Spirit. JOHN 14:16, 23; Rom. 8:8-9; Rev. 3:20.
("another"- Strongs G243: different; more one).
Which is NOT to be thought of as an additional Spirit, as being an "add on", but rather who God the Father and God the Son have always been in Eternity past, One God.

Therefore, when Jesus returns in the Glory of His Immortality from Heaven, in flaming fire, His Father Who is within Him, WILL BE with Him!!
1 Tim. 3
[16] And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

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2Cor.5:17-21
[19] To wit, that God was IN Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
[20] Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
[21] For he [God the Father] hath made him [God the Son] TO BE SIN FOR US, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. [after his resurrection].
Of which explains how it is, that we who are born again of God's Holy Spirit, are indeed New creatures (a NEW creation),
of which HAD NEVER BEEN before.
Verse 17.
 
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Getting back on the topic of this thread, we are to recognize that the current event of the war in Gaza is a literal fulfillment of Rev. 9:13-21, of which is from God's foreknowledge, thus showing that God Himself has nothing to do with such events, that are "of the world", except to reveal them in advance to His born again saints. Such is the case for Rev.9:13-21, it is now being manifested.
All of God's prophetic words in Revelation will come to pass, and shall be manifested in the physical, as well as that which is spiritual.

In all actuality, what we are seeing, is the wrath of Satan, working from behind the scenes, through the kingdoms of men.
Though we may not know where Satan is, both God the Father and God the Son, know exactly where he is at all times. (Please see
Rev. 2:13.)

Rev. 9
[13] And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,
[14] Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.
[15] And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.


Many surmise and assume that the four angels are fallen angels of Satan/Lucifer, and at first glance that looks like it could very well be the case, but we shouldn't just think of it in how the literal words appear to us on the surface.

Since John is the only human recipient of the pictorial visions from God, his description of them (35 times in the book of Rev., saying: "I saw", and 23 times: "I heard") could only be transposed in his mind, by comparing to that which he knew in his ownself, about the times that he lived in of 96 AD. .
As a result, God revealed and spoke to him exactly in that way, on the experiential level of his human knowledge and understanding.

The words of the book of Rev. come from God the Father directly (Rev. 1:1), being highly symbolic and signified/coded (Rev. 1:1; Isa. 55:8-9) thus requiring God's own discernment to us through His Holy Spirit, which is through "the mind of Christ", that is within all born again Christians, and not through "the wisdom of men", of which is nothing more than speculation, which is manipulated and fabricated through the filter of the doctrines of men, aka "church-ianity". 1 Cor. 2:5.

However, having said that, we must not ignore John's interpretation of his own understanding, of what he "saw" and "heard" of the symbolic pictures and words, that he transposed in his own mind, but rather for us to also transpose his interpretations from the setting of his times, into the settings and manifestations of our times, 1,927 years later. (2023AD minus 96AD= 1,927).

The time of that manifestation, to slay (kill off) 1/3 of men, is now in process.
".....which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.
Whether that is only in the region of the Euphrates, or on a global scale, I cannot say that I know.

Now, here is a clue, being that of a perspective about the symbolic four "angels" that are "bound" in the "River Euphrates". They all have two things in common, and that is:
All four of those symbolic "angels" have direct access to the Euphrates River, and all four are bound together in that which is the Islamic religion.

Can we name those four countries (symbolized as four angels)? YES!

They are: Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Iran.
The Euphrates River runs through each one of them, and them ONLY.

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So then, one might ask, where in the world and when, has the biblical event of Rev. 9:1-12 taken place, being just prior to the Euphrates event?
Ans.
It is through the synthetic mRNA vaccinations (sting) for COVID-19, of which is still being implemented on a global scale by the WHO of the UN, aka "the image of the beast with 10H".

The beast with 10H shall be manifested as the final phase of the 4th beast of Daniel, being in it's evolved conglomerate state of what once was the Roman Empire (Rev. 13:1-6). Therefore, having never died, but rather was only "wounded", it shall arise to be that of a Global Economic Empire, which in all the world and in all time, there has never been anything like it.
 
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"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other.

Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion… We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil.

Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view.

This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time." - Albert Pike 1871​
Make what you want of the 1871 letter by Albert Pike, a 33 degree Freemason.
Whether the plans of satan be fictitious or factual, it is your choice to heed or ignore.

The end result is now being played out in the region of the river Euphrates, as prophetically outlined by God in Rev.9:13-21
 
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There are many that spout the idiom that the US by good intentions, was founded on "Judeo-christian" principals and values, and of course biblically speaking, that appears to be true. However when we look at what it actually is shown to be in Rev. 13:11-17, it really is nothing more than "another beast" kingdom of men, among men, having the capacity to wage war by making fire come down from heaven.

Though some may think and believe that it is "God ordained" to make the world ready for our Savior to come, I can assure you that it is not, and therefore it is nothing more than the foreknowledge of God, revealing to His saints, of "another" kingdom of Satan, known as the Two Horned beast.

By making fire (war) come down from heaven, the 2H beast has ultimately coerced and PERSUADED all the world to make an image to the Global Economic beast with 10H.
Today, we KNOW of it's image, that the people of the world HAVE made. It's called the UN, of which shall "cause" ALL the world TO TAKE THE MARK of that 10H beast, except for those who ARE born again of God's Holy Spirit.
As you shall see in the site below, the deception among us, which has been in the view of our very own eyes, is very great.
CHRISTIAN ZIONISM

Christian-zionists attempt to bring about the return of Christ by war and genocide.
 
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There are many that spout the idiom that the US by good intentions, was founded on "Judeo-christian" principals and values, and of course biblically speaking, that appears to be true. However when we look at what it actutally is shown to be in Rev. 13:11-17, it really is nothing more than "another beast" kingdom of men, among men, having the capacity to wage war by making fire come down from heaven.

Though some may think and believe that it is "God ordained" to make the world ready for our Savior to come, I can assure you that it is not, and therefore it is nothing more than the foreknowledge of God, revealing to His saints, of "another" kingdom of Satan, known as the Two Horned beast.

By making fire (war) come down from heaven, the 2H beast has ultimately coerced and PERSUADED all the world to make an image to the Global Economic beast with 10H.
Today, we KNOW of it's image, that the people of the world HAVE made. It's called the UN, of which shall "cause" ALL the world TO TAKE THE MARK of that 10H beast, except for those who ARE born again of God's Holy Spirit.
As you shall see in the site below, the deception among us, which has been in the view of our very own eyes, is very great.
CHRISTIAN ZIONISM

Christian-zionists attempt to bring about the return of Christ by war and genocide.
I know people like he is talking about, who want to set this world on fire, but they say they will not be here to reap what they have sown, so they claim !
They are bring hell down on everyone ! because they are truly Satanist, but claim to be Christians ?
They claim to idolise the Jews ? but they truly hate the Jews ? but they will not say that !
They are brainwashed by a Mob ?
They go looking for weak minded people so as to dominate over them !
The seek the easy way and just follow along with what their gurus claim.
The serve other gods in fact ! for they do not have Christ Jesus in their lives, they claim they can not Sin ? or that because they demand that they are saved that they are free from the gravity of Sin, free to kill regardless, because their claims about their OSAS is delusional deception.
One who is truly Saved does the will of Christ Jesus and does not kill or do the wrong thing by others, nor do we claim to be infallible to Sin ? but that we have a handle on Sin, for we are not of this world, blind to deceptions and delusions, but we can fall into such trappings if we are not astute ! being on guard ? eternal looking out for any rot that may set in ?
 
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Do not heed the pope of popes nor the ones who do its work . For though they cry LOVE LOVE
they DECIEVE BIG TIME .
Well first of all, if your biblical doctrine is guided by the teaching of the HS correctly, and not by following the wisdom of men through church-ianity, you will fully understand KJV Luke 17 :28-30 and 2 Thes. 1:7-10.
 
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Well first of all, if your biblical doctrine is guided by the teaching of the HS correctly, and not by following the wisdom of men through church-ianity, you will fully understand KJV Luke 17 :28-30 and 2 Thes. 1:7-10.
Its a ONE TIME event . JESUS return , His coming is a one time event .
My advice is dont heed the pre trib or etc things .
Let us rather read the bible for ourselves . When JESUS cometh , He comes for His church and to , yes AND TO
lay down the wrath against the ungodly , against the beast , against the FP and all who followed their perniscious ways .
Speaking of the mystery of inquity , OH ITS BEEN at work for a very long time .
Mystery babylon and her religoin of the mystery of inquity has been at work .
And now , nigh the end of it all , Has morphed massive under guise of a love and unity that is A STRONG Delusion
to unify all not in the lambs book to be as ONE , world as one , religoins as one , RIGHT under the LIE and to come
with great vengeance against the true lambs who did not conform to the lie .
WE ARE about to see great persecutions . This world and its religoins are merging under a lie
under a false solutoin they think will give them peace on earth . NOPE its led and its leading them AS ONE
to unify as ONE , right under the beast . SO watch out and do be on gaurd . Cause the devil
can quoate scrips , OH he too can say GOD is love and yet watch out cause the love it bringeth
will TROD JESUS , the dire need to believe on JESUS right under foot as its love makes the path VERY BROAD TO GOD
and accepts heinous ungodly sins and even calls that love .
 

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What if a literal WW3 is a delusion?
What if the next war we fight on a massive scale is spiritual? Will you know it?
 

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What if a literal WW3 is a delusion?
What if the next war we fight on a massive scale is spiritual? Will you know it?


That's already happening.

The first two WWs were literally fought all over the Earth. The idea of a WW3 would be as global as the first 2.

IMO the bible does not describe a global war like WW1 and WW2. The signs of the GT includes wars but it sounds more like various regional wars rather than a global type conflict.
 

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That's already happening.

The first two WWs were literally fought all over the Earth. The idea of a WW3 would be as global as the first 2.

IMO the bible does not describe a global war like WW1 and WW2. The signs of the GT includes wars but it sounds more like various regional wars rather than a global type conflict.
I think that WW1 and WW2 were just set up Games that were played out and worked out far in advance by the powers that be.

I remember reading years ago about that Pope Leo XIII regarding about such a subject coming in the future that was leading to regarding how such may unfold in the future.
His encyclical on social justice Rerum Novarum and he organised Catholic Action so as to counter what we have what we have nowadays deceptions and delusions. All Wars are created for an intent, not that the majority understand the real intentions but are always lead astray to believe the spin and lies. and then to be totally ignorant after the War, as most claim the other people are at fault, as if it's them who is the problem ? but they do not bother to seek both sides to regards as to why and then they may find out that they were both diddled in fact by a cunning ruthless creation that is within all Nations ? but most do not bother to see the problem within ones own Nations ? or themselves even !

When people claim that they are not a racist nowadays ? they are totally under a delusion in fact and no true Christian wort ones Salt would swallow such shallowness ? in regards to the Human condition ? Such is a blind statement of denial in fact, so as only to fit in with the crowd ? and such a carnal one is always insulted on such an issue ? I AM NOT RACIST ! that's what they demand outright !
So the Carnal ego is so puffed up with pride within the Mob ? but in fact it's just blind shallow pathetic stance, that does not count regarding Christ Jesus, because such is a lie and only a deception and delusion of This world !
For if one was truly born again then one would see through the deception that deludes such shallow dupes.

To the Carnal, such a one will get highly offended if called a Racist and act like a spastic in this regard making a big deal about such. but as to one who is truly Saved, if one called such a one a Racist, you would get an entirely different response in this regard ? first such will not be offended at all ! and secondly thanked for such a regard in fact ! why, well because the one responding is making a claim, and one is thankful for the concern in regards the issue ?
But if they have an open mind, they will sit with you and listen to regard the issue, if not they are typical Nazi type that only brainwashed shallow morons in fact and typical of any carnal simpleton ! For such a concept that they peddle is only Socialism ! Socialism is a Carnal concept in fact, it's another one of such gods of such people in fact ! that they idolise. a fallen people who are totally Lost ! Dupes to this world in fact !

Racial prejudice on the other hand is something totally different to Racist ? for prejudice has to do with one being ignorant and ignorance has no worthy value in fact !

When people would say do not mention the War ? WW2 in regards to one from the UK and say one from Germany ? what do you see in that mode ? just flat out outright ignorance is being displayed by fools and idiots in fact ! Why not mention the War between the two ? they may learn something in fact if they had the Grace to do so in fact ! but their is no prize for being totally one sided like a carnal dupe is. for they are only shallow morons in fact.
What if one said, hey have we both been duped in all this War BS ! Lets be Man enough to work it out ? sure their will be arguments, but that is not the issue ! arguments can be a good thing, as one may learn from such, if you are honest and open to listen. you may not catch on directly but in time one can have a better handle on such issues.

People look down on others in fact ! for a reason ? and no one is the same or your equal in fact ! that's Lie number one exposed regarding Socialism !
Socialism is Political Correctness and such is founded on a outright Lie and deception and delusions.

You know what i do not like China ! is that racist ? and i never liked Russians ? for their was an issue with them and i did not look up to them at all in fact ! but it's not an issue with the race, but it may have something to do with their culture ? being Communist ! one need be careful regarding such idiots ! and not to mention i have such regard within my own Nation that i am not over the moon with as well ? be it even my own relations etc etc ?
Oh you can't have negative regards to your own relations, to right i can ! for good reason, not because i do not have love for them because i do ! but their could be an issue that i may not look up to them for. and it's the same regardless, so Racist is BS ! But Racial prejudice is just totally pathetic ! But this world play deceptions to dupe all they can.

If one came to me and had an issue with my race ? i may agree with them in fact or in part and let them know of my thoughts on that issue. but i will not get upset, but only happy that they made the observation openly with real regard ? but if it was just a stupid off the cuff statement i would just dismiss such as coming from a fool.

Regarding my Race i could say, Your right and i will tell you more about what i despise about such as well !
One could even look at ones self and expose issues that one does not like about ones self, i think that's a good thing ! better than being delusional or dishonest person !
I have a problem and i know it, i am to trusting in fact and i have an issue with that, i have to keep such in mind. as i want to be open with people !
 

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That's already happening.

The first two WWs were literally fought all over the Earth. The idea of a WW3 would be as global as the first 2.

IMO the bible does not describe a global war like WW1 and WW2. The signs of the GT includes wars but it sounds more like various regional wars rather than a global type conflict.
Specifically Rev. 9:13-21, whereby one third of the population in the Euphrates region (Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Iran) are killed off, by military warfare. It's in the beginning stages of it now.
All should get informed about the plans of Christian-Zionism.

WW1 & WW2 was planned, so that the globalists could establish Israel as a nation, and then bring about "world peace" through the UN.
In the final outcome, all religions that do not comply with the globalist's agenda of the Luciferian Doctrine, will be eradicated-eliminated. That process has begun with Hamas and Israel, for mutual destruction.
 

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What if a literal WW3 is a delusion?
What if the next war we fight on a massive scale is spiritual? Will you know it?
The Spiritual war between God and Satan, started with Adam's fall. Still ongoing, and the physical war is heating up!
As many Prophesies tell us, the Lord will soon cause a dramatic change, the first step in the preparation of the world for the Return of Jesus to reign for a thousand years.
But all the things Prophesied to happen from Revelation 6:12 to Revelation 19:10, must take place first.
 

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Christ’s doctrine is a globalist agenda?
There is the difference between "Christ-ianity", the Invisible church of Christ Himself (Rev. 3:20) and "church-ianity", the visible churches of the wisdom and doctrines of men.
1 Cor. 2[5] That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

One segment of the Luciferian Doctrine declares that "All people are the children of God", and calls out to the world to "Save the planet". All of that appeals to the flesh of "the natural man".
1 Cor. 2
[12] Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
[13] Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
[14] But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.


Edit: All of such follow after their denominational Bible colleges, through the wisdom of men, of which reveals and describes them to be "Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away". 2 Tim. 3:1-5.
 
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