Can you expand on what you are saying here?
The rest of your post seems rather condemning, but perhaps I misunderstand?
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WWJD with LGBTQ?
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The rest of your post seems rather condemning, but perhaps I misunderstand?
BTW: Welcome to the forum. Looks like you are fairly new.
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OneIsTheWord
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it is like giving statistics of the human traged
All flesh is not the same flesh, but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of animals, another of fish, and another of birds.
There are also celestial bodies and terrestrial bodies, but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
There is one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differs from another star in glory.
So also is the resurrection of the dead. The body is sown in corruption, it is raised in corruption.
It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power.
It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
And so it is written, "The first man Adam became a living being." The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.
1 Cor 15:39-45 (NKJV)
The body is sown in corruption, it is raised in corruption, they were polluted by their lust
Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves,
who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever.
Amen.
For this reason, God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature.
Likewise, also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.
Romans 1:24-32 (NKJV)
I'm guessing you meant...
The body is sown in corruption, it is raised in INcorruption, they were polluted by their lust
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OneIsTheWord
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that the body can be corrupt within, they polluted within, themselves, Satan leads the way
The spirit of fornication
The first is asthma.
Davis is the demon of homosexuality in men then there's the demon of Leviathan which is the demon of homosexuality and then but of the masculine kind these are the women who are heavy on the heels we would say.
OneIsTheWord
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greetings
that was part of a study I did, they are just pieces of missing history
The 14th Century Catholic Church - recorded history
The demon Asmodius king of Hell
Asmodeus or Ashmedai, is a prince of demons and hell. In Judeo-Islamic lore he is the king of both daemons and demons. Asmodeus is mostly known from the deuterocanonical Book of Tobit, in which he is the primary antagonist, or the Ars Goetia.
In Peter Binsfeld's classification of demons, Asmodeus represents lust.
The five generals under Satan let's hear from Father Chad himself now underneath saving they're what.
we call the five generals the five generals are the five demons that are immediately hierarchically underneath Satan, and they are the ones who execute his plans in some cases they call it the table because it's basically they get to divide up certain things.
The demon bald, or as ball
the first demon under him is bald, ball you know Satan actually is the demon of impurity but ball is a demon of impurity his principal function is to get cultures to succumb to impurity primarily through fornication. Once the fornication sets in then what happens is that the perspective that the conjugal act is ordered towards children is lost from that arises the idea that such should be recreational and that and you can use it for any way you get pleasure that's fine, ball lays the groundwork we saw this in our own country was called the free love movement they laid the groundwork the next thing he tries to do is although in our country he managed to pull something off that was rather extraordinary the next thing is after that as we read from Saint Paul
God delivers men and women up to their lusts and men will start to swan to sleep with men and women with women which basically means what once.
The spirit of fornication delivers us from the litany of Saints at the very time that the free love movement gained a sentencing what we pray for is what we get you don't pray for it you're not going get it after that then what happens is the culture.
The next three demons show up.
The first is asthma.
Davis he's the demon of homosexuality in men then there's
the demon of Leviathan which is the demon of homosexuality and then but of the masculine kind these are the women who are heavy on the heels we would say.
the spirit of Lilith
then there is the spirit of Lilith which is the more seductive form of female homosexuality after those after those have gained ascendancy in a culture which by the way if you look at the cultures every single culture is pushed in this direction; historically not just ours but historically this is always the progression once you have fornication you end up with contraception and then.
The upshot of that is homosexuality and then abortion.
The demon Balfour Med is?
The demon baal,
The fifth one baal, he's the demon of child sacrifice abortion in our culture think of this they shot down the fornication laws.
And hey delivered us into the hands of baal they should then they had Roe versus Wade and delivered us into the hands of Balfour men and then they allowed gay marriage and so now our country politically is in the hold of the top five demons in hell other than Satan they delivered us into their hands that's where we're at.
Hillsage
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Just as the "wood hay and stubble works" are burned up in the verse below, lead to being "anyone being" "SAVED yet, so as THROUGH FIRE." So also in the verse above is "THE EARTH" is also saved from the thorns and briars which are burned off of "the earth" in the above verse.
I live in farming country and watch the fallow fields which are full of weeds after man walks away from that harvested field for a season of rest. And when they burn that weed overgrown field in the future seasons, it is saved by fire for the planting and harvesting of something of value to man and God.
Yes the FIRE OF GOD SAVES in both verses.
HEB 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.
ISA 30:27 Behold, the name of the LORD cometh from far, burning with his anger/APH, and the burden thereof is heavy: his lips are full of indignation, and HIS TONGUE as a DEVOURING FIRE.
And as to the ANGER" of God above????? Could just as easily been translated as the 'PASSION' of God to cleanse both man and God's creation with that fire.
Hebrew 0639 'APH': prop. the nose or nostril; hence the face and occasionally a person; also (from the rapid breathing in PASSION) ire
Isaiah 30
Easy-to-Read Version
Israel Should Trust in God, Not Egypt
30 The Lord said, “Look at these children. They don’t obey me. They make plans, but they don’t ask me to help them. They make agreements with other nations, but my Spirit does not want those agreements. These people are adding more and more sins to the ones they have already done. 2 They are going down to Egypt for help, but they did not ask me if that was the right thing to do. They hope they will be saved by the Pharaoh. They want Egypt to protect them.
3 “But I tell you, hiding in Egypt will not help you. Pharaoh will not be able to protect you. 4 Your leaders have gone to Zoan, and your representatives have gone to Hanes.[a] 5 But they will be disappointed. They are depending on a nation that cannot help them. Egypt is useless—it will not help. Egypt will bring nothing but shame and embarrassment.”
God’s Message to Judah
6 This is a message about the Negev animals[c]:
There is a dangerous place full of lions, adders,[d] deadly snakes,[e] and useless people. And there are people who load their wealth onto donkeys and their treasures on the backs of camels. They carry them to a people who cannot help. 7 That useless nation is Egypt. Egypt’s help is worth nothing, so I call Egypt the “Do-Nothing Dragon.”[f]
8 Now write this on a sign so that all people can see it, and write this in a book. Write these things for a future time. This will be far, far in the future:[g]
9 These people are like children who refuse to obey. They lie and refuse to listen to the Lord’s teachings. 10 They tell the prophets, “Don’t see dreams[h] about things we should do. Don’t tell us the truth. Say nice things to us and make us feel good. See only good things for us. 11 Stop seeing things that will really happen. Get out of our way. Stop telling us about the Holy One of Israel.”
Judah’s Help Comes Only From God
12 The Holy One of Israel says, “You people have refused to accept this message from me. You depend on fighting and lies to help you. 13 You are guilty of these things. So you are like a tall wall with cracks in it. That wall will fall and break into small pieces. 14 You will be like a large clay jar that breaks into many small, useless pieces. You cannot use them to get a hot coal from the fire or to get water from a pool in the ground.”
15 The Lord God, the Holy One of Israel, says, “If you come back to me you will be saved. Only by remaining calm and trusting in me can you be strong.”
But you don’t want to do that. 16 You say, “No, we need fast horses for battle.” That is true—you will need fast horses, but only to run away because your enemy will be faster than your horses. 17 One enemy soldier will make threats, and a thousand of your men will run away. And when five of them make threats, all of you will run away. The only thing that will be left of your army will be a flagpole on a hill.
God Will Help His People
18 So the Lord is waiting to show his mercy to you. He wants to rise and comfort you. The Lord is the God who does the right thing, so he will bless everyone who waits for his help.
19 You people who live in Jerusalem on Mount Zion will not continue crying. The Lord will hear your crying, and he will comfort you. When he hears you, he will help you.
20 The Lord might give you sorrow and pain like the bread and water you eat every day. But God is your teacher, and he will not continue to hide from you. You will see your teacher with your own eyes. 21 If you wander from the right path, either to the right or to the left, you will hear a voice behind you saying, “You should go this way. Here is the right way.”
22 Then you will take your idols covered with gold and silver and make them unfit to be used again. You will throw them away like filthy rags and say, “Go away!”
23 At that time the Lord will send you rain. You will plant seeds, and the ground will grow food for you. You will have a very large harvest. You will have plenty of food in the fields for your animals. There will be large fields for your sheep. 24 Your cattle and donkeys will have all the food they need. There will be much food. You will have to use shovels and pitchforks to spread all the food[j] for your animals to eat. 25 Every mountain and hill will have streams filled with water. These things will happen after many people are killed and the enemy’s towers are pulled down.
26 At that time the light from the moon will be as bright as the sun, and the light from the sun will be seven times brighter than it is now. One day of sunlight will be like a whole week’s worth. This will happen when the Lord bandages his broken people and heals the hurts from their beatings.
27 Look! The Lord is coming from far away. His anger is like a fire with thick clouds of smoke. His mouth is filled with anger, and his tongue is like a burning fire. 28 His breath is like a great river that rises until it reaches the throat. He will judge the nations as if putting them through a strainer that separates the ones fit for destruction. He will put a bit in their mouths to lead them to the place they don’t want to go.
29 You will sing happy songs, like the nights when you begin a festival. You will be very happy walking to the Lord’s mountain and listening to the flute on the way to worship the Rock of Israel.
30 The Lord will cause all people to hear his great voice and to see his powerful arm come down in anger. That arm will be like a great fire that burns everything. His power will be like a great storm with much rain and hail. 31 Assyria will be frightened by the Lord’s voice and the stick that will beat him. 32 And as the Lord beats Assyria, his people will keep the rhythm with their drums and harps.
33 Topheth[k] has been made ready for a long time. It is ready for the king.[l] It was made very deep and wide. There is a very big pile of wood and fire there, and the Lord’s breath will come like a stream of burning sulfur to start the fire.
Footnotes
Isaiah 30:4 Zoan, Hanes Cities in Egypt.
Isaiah 30:6 message Or “burden.”
Isaiah 30:6 Negev animals Or “Creatures of the South,” a phrase that can refer to Egypt.
Isaiah 30:6 adders Very poisonous snakes.
Isaiah 30:6 deadly snakes Literally, “flying snakes.”
Isaiah 30:7 Do-Nothing Dragon Or “Resting Rahab,” the great sea monster. Some ancient stories tell about Rahab fighting with God.
Isaiah 30:8 Write … future Or “Write this for the future as a witness forever.”
Isaiah 30:10 dreams Or “visions.” Special kinds of dreams God used to speak to his prophets.
Isaiah 30:22 You … rags Or “You will throw those gods away like menstrual clothes.”
Isaiah 30:24 food This was special food that had been allowed to ferment. This made the meat of the animal tender and good.
Isaiah 30:33 Topheth Gehenna, the Valley of Hinnom. In this valley people killed their children to honor the false god, “Molech.”
Isaiah 30:33 king This is like the name of the false god, “Molech.”
Hillsage
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"Easy-to-Read Version" just might spiritually be saying 'But harder to understand'.
HEB 8:13 In speaking of a new covenant he treats the first as obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
I understand 'TREATING THE FIRST AS OBSOLETE?
Thank you Jesus for bridging the CHASM 700 years after Isaiah 30 was written. Truly your cross crossed the CHASM and your blood was shed FOR ALL.
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Children have a mind of their own when it comes to which gender model they gravitate toward.
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Their are only 2 genders and parents should be responsible to ensure that their children don't fall into sinful perversion. You are what you were born. If you think you want to be something that your not.....dont. If your a snowflake and you think life is tough, it is, get a helmet.Children have a mind of their own when it comes to which gender model they gravitate toward.
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Ronald David Bruno
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Admiring or desiring a specific occupation has nothing to do with gender, nor does playing with dolls. A boy who is more gentle, soft spoken with shy tendencies and not so interested in rough sports, climbing trees or rough play does not mean he is wanting to be a girl. Even dressing up like one is just pretending, play acting ilke Tootsie or Mrs. Doubtfire. Children are just all in a learning phase, noticing differences between boys and girls and developing an identity. Young boys could have been bullied by boys, made fun of and so didn't want to identify themselves as one of them, so shied away from the mucho group and leaned towards friendly and gentle girls. That does not change their sex - nothing does.Children have a mind of their own when it comes to which gender model they gravitate toward.
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Thoughts and feelings don't change your sex, not even hormones and operations do. On a cellular level, each cell has that intial male or female DNA design that you were born with so really it is impossible to change your sex. You can cut off your penis and inject some boobs but you are really deceiving yourself. Psychiatrists had the diagnosis correct before 1974. It was called "mental disorder". You did not have your sexually in order with a natural and normal mindset about who you are.
>One needs to take seriously their God given gender, what He intended them to be.<
Judgment is coming for all LGBTQ ... but not only for them!
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, ...
For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due...
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.
Rom. 1;18-20, 26-27, 28-32
Another phrase for a "debased mind" is mental disorder. Obviously a debased mind is not limited to sexual perversion only, but being filled ( consumed entirely) with any other evils on the long list above is as well. After a certain point in life, God let's these people go to do what they want and in essence _ for them _ they have passed the point if no return, no chance of redemption, they are reprobates. We don't know when that line is drawn, so for us we continue to witness, minister, warn them of the path they are on. Satan is really capturing young children and the government is behind this evil, pushing this envelope.
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I'm familiar with that POV.
Do you discount gender dysphoria?
Even Christians struggle with same sex attraction.
Why did God make them that way?
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Some people feel like they were put in the wrong body.
Why did God make them that way?
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Some people think they are a fire hydrant. God doesn't regulate worldly choices or mental illness.
Some people struggle with wanting to kill someone. God doesn't intervene. If He did we wouldn't have lost 2900 people at the Trade Centers. Why did God make children with cleft palates?
LOL
What is the source of "mental illness"?
That's an interesting comparative. Cleft palates.
I'm imagining two teenagers looking at themselves in the mirror.
One with a cleft palate, and the other with gender dysphoria.
Both asking God why he made them that like that.
Seems like a legitimate question either way.
Agree/disagree?
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