WWJD with LGBTQ?
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A renewal of faith (if there was one ) and to believe in the truths of the word instead of fantasy doctrines set to appease the conscience, and excuse fallen man for not repenting now, while it is yet day !
The mind can become so seared that it cannot accept the truth !
1 Timothy 4:1/2
1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devil's;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
2 Thessalonians 2:11-12
And for this cause God shall send them strong DELUSION, that they shall believe a lie: that they all might be damned who believed NOT THE TRUTH, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
1 Timothy 4:1/2
1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devil's;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
2 Thessalonians 2:11-12
And for this cause God shall send them strong DELUSION, that they shall believe a lie: that they all might be damned who believed NOT THE TRUTH, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Aunty Jane
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Who could have imagined even a few decades ago that the world would be in the moral state that it is now?
Those of us who remember the 60’s and the “sexual revolution” that shocked the world at that time, can see that it pales into insignificance compared to the gender issues of this 21st century.
Can we also see how satan has undermined every vestige of decency that the Bible promotes….even older people who would never have used bad language or condoned (publicly at least) the kinds of sexual misconduct that is not only tolerated today, but mandated so that it is now a crime to exercise your conscience as a Christian and speak up about these things.….
Being “offended” is now a reason to take someone to court…..but what makes their feelings more important than yours if you are also “offended” by their conduct? Who is ruling this world? (1 John 5:19) And whose moral standards are now being followed? Christians have to be careful not to allow their standards to become eroded….living “in the world”, but remaining “no part” of it as Jesus said. (John 17:16)
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I well remember a time when decorum & etiquette meant soming about the decency of humanity.
Now there is too much push to see how vulgar we can expose ourselves in public, devalue women & children and "spit" on the likes of God with this " in your face" attitude of this generation
It truly sickens me ! No wonder, how God must feel!
BlessedPeace
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Those in Christ could be misled by false doctrine,true. However,that does not strip them of their irrevocable salvation by God's grace .
amigo de christo
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Keep reminding with all sound biblical doctrine for the TIME HAS COME where many have departed from the true faith once delivered .
The TIME has come when many no longer endure sound doctrine but have heaped double minded teachers
upon themselves who preach exactly what the double minded want to hear .
March onwards in the LORD dear sister . You are missed .
amigo de christo
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That my friend is correct . it too is what the apostles would also later teach the church .
The problem with this so called diversity inclusivity
is it WONT . rather it even embraces certain sins and errors under the guise its loving to do so .
Let me give you an example from another man who had went to one of these inclusive diversity churches .
He stood outside before the doors of a church .
Two men , one a pastor , went out to meet the man .
The man simply asked them what is the meaning of this rainbow flag they have upon the church .
To which they answered its diversity .
To which the man , CORRECTLY ANSWRED them
and said , YES its TRUE WE DO WELCOME ALL TO COME INTO THE CHURCH
but YOU ALL ARE NOT TEACHING THEM A THING about REPENTANCE . BINGO . HE GOT that spot on right .
YOU see anyone is welcome to visist the church , BUT THE CHURCH NEEDS to be
speaking and teaching the truth . CORRECTING sin and error . REMINDING FOLKS they are no longer the old man
and not to serve the flesh . DIVERSITY DONT DO THAT . RATHER IT SHUTS ITS EYES TO SIN
wont correct and in time even honors said certain sins . THIS DID NOT DO JESUS
And this DID NOT THE APOSTELS EVER ONCE DO EITHER . Just a friendly reminder to all .
SO allow me some parting words that even paul once wrote to the church .
LET all who name the NAME OF CHRIST , DEPART FROM INQUITY , aka GO and sin no more . and always let us correct
leaven fast . For but just a wee bit of leaven can indeed leaven the whole lump .
amigo de christo
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What is the title of this thread again . exactly
had it been a thread about murder then murder would have been exposed .
this thread , however was about the LGBTQ , thus that gets exposed .
Had this thread been about money loving
then money loving would have been exposed .
ANY SIN that is made mention of , MUST be exposed for what it is , SIN , and it must be warned
that we NOT PARTAKE OF SIN . TRY and REMEMBER that .
amigo de christo
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And when or if they are , you can BET GOD gonna either send men to correct , AS HE SENT PUAL to correct peter and barnabas
or Convict them through sound biblical doctrine that they BE walking into error .
GOD LOVES so GOD CORRECTS . And GOD uses sheep within the body TO CORRECT any in any error .
Just a friendly reminder my friend .
Oh my no, that is not why the scriptures and Jesus say/said those things about marriage - at all! God's thoughts are not like man's defective thoughts. That is the devil once again accusing God, as he always does so predictably. What is at issue is righteousness and purity, not "defective merchandise". The two shall become one flesh........that is what irrevocably happens when two have sex......marriage in other words. Having sex with someone is what makes them married and in covenant in a spiritual sense. Because that is what sex IS, whether we like it or not. "Who can change what God hath wrought?" It is what it is.
If someone has sex with someone and then goes on to marry another person, they are in fact committing bigamy in a spiritual sense and defiling themselves with sin. That is why the offended spouse may put away the offending spouse, whether it involves fornication before marriage, or adultery afterwards. (and to my understanding fornication during the betrothal period was actually considered adultery, because betrothal was just as legally and morally binding as marriage)
People have no idea what tangled webs they are weaving with all this going at it like feral animals that is happening nowadays....and then we wonder why there are so many problems in families and in society. Sin brings consequences - it opens the door to the devil - that is just a plain fact of life, and the Lord kindly seeks to spare us that. But very few heed Him. Instead they accuse Him.
This topic covers the subject. But frankly, I have gotten a lot of push-back on this.
Did Jesus say that adultery is grounds for divorce? - Nope.
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Haven't read the whole thread, but as we can see in God's word how sexual purity is of utmost importance to the Lord and a walk in Christ. This is basic and foundational - Christianity 101. We're not going to get anywhere until that is settled. One man one woman marriage and nothing else is permissible with regard to sex, or at all wise! Whatever one's proclivities happen to be, it's deny it and follow Jesus. Deny yourself, your fleshly lusts.
How much of that mindset is driven by the position of the church and conservative politics?
In another topic I pose this question. Which seems unthinkable by today's standards, but there it is in the early church. (polygamy)
Does the "husband of one wife" requirement mean that polygamy was common in the early church?
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It's driven by the word of God. HIS mindset....which those who have His Spirit also have....the mind of Christ. The Spirit and the word agree.
Unbelievers were coming to the Lord who might have had more than one wife prior to coming to faith. There was no requirement for them to put away 'surplus' wives, because of God's mercy.....for the sake of the children, and as well it would have been untenable in practical terms for women of that day.....most of them would have been forced to remarry in order to survive. However, leadership in the church required that a man only have one wife.....God's wisdom for more than one reason, I believe.
amigo de christo
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Folks do and folks say , folks reason , as they desire . Take note if one continues to reject the truth
THEY GONNA believe as the carnal mind desires . Take note . what was the title of this thread again .
IS it any wonder THEN , that some minds are doing everything to both justify and reason on WHY THEY DO or WHY THEY BELIEVE
as they believe to be true . GOD really does give folks the desires of their hearts . OH HE WILL ANSWER
the man or prophet according to the IDOLS OF THEIR HEART . THIS IS A RAINBOW , DO AS THOU WILT and JUDGE NOT
generation to the upmost . The man will reason as he do and he sees as he does , for the carnal mind runs his show .
I KEEP IT SIMPLE . IF GOD SAID IT , DONT TWIST IT .
BlessedPeace
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Push back? That's because you are wrong.
Matthew 5:32
Matthew 5:32 - Divorce
But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, brings adultery upon her. And he who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.
biblehub.com
That proves my point, thanks.
I wasn't arguing in favor of polygamy, only pointing out that it was present in the early church. You seem to agree.
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Deuteronomy 22:27-29
New International Version
27 for the man found the young woman out in the country, and though the betrothed woman screamed, there was no one to rescue her.
28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels[a] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
I perfer they also cut his penis off and fingers and tounge off too.
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