You have to help? My physician is slow, my fellow citizens hate my poverty and my efforts at finding work are a constant struggle

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Hi there,

So who wants a pity story, right? The thing is, I am being betrayed on all sides, by bad choices, bad interpretation, bed expectation. I have schizophrenia, which in and of itself is neither good or bad, but interpretation makes it change. The bad choice, is for my physician to say "we are not able to reverse the schizophrenia, therefore we must assume it is ingrained", that's not the right way to respond to my schizophrenia!

The next problem is that I am like the poor in Proverbs, who his neighbour hates (from memory). Being on a pension - which I did not ask for, by the way - means that people make the bad interpretation that I am trying to cost them money or that I have opportunities that I must be being lazy about. I don't answer for any of these things! To me, anything that doesn't come from those that have made the decision to treat me are irrelevant. Why should I be singled out, again and again? I don't provoke them: I turn the other cheek.

The last betrayal, is that all this is expected to just vanish when I get a job. I am not believed to have a purpose, a calling, just job after job. If I want to do something about that, I am supposed to do that on my own time, with my own money. But this culture goes back to the first problem, of the misinterpretation of my schizophrenia! The fact that I am not imagined to be able to do anything about it - my life - is (at least thought to be) the reason my schizophrenia won't change. Can you see how circular that is? I can't if I can and I won't if I am. Actually my current psychiatrist is pretty good by relative standards, at least my current psychiatrist is willing to reduce the medication a little here and a little there. But its still so backwards!

Now, am I making this more complicated than it needs to be? That's really where I need prayer! I am trying not to live by people's expectations, misinterpretation or choices, I'm really trying not. I am trying to get a job, I am trying to practice patience, I am waiting for my psychiatrist to feel slightly more in favour of reducing my medication. There isn't failing in any of these areas, I am just struggling to see God, to trust God. The Lord knows how those who need treatment struggle! Imagine that you were praying for the Lord to overcome a mental condition He had, what would you pray?

I hope you see this as something, that is not disturbing, just challenging?

Thank you so much for reading this far!

PS. Also if you could pray that I survive the medication, it is making me really sluggish. Thanks.
 

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Dear friend, try not to worry about what others think of you. You can't help what they think. Just respond to others as you would like to be treated and leave them in God's hands.

Since your medication makes you sluggish, I'm glad your doctor is working with you about that.

May you soon find a job that suits you.
 
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Hi there,​
So who wants a pity story, right? The thing is, I am being betrayed on all sides, by bad choices, bad interpretation, bed expectation. I have schizophrenia, which in and of itself is neither good or bad, but interpretation makes it change. The bad choice, is for my physician to say "we are not able to reverse the schizophrenia, therefore we must assume it is ingrained", that's not the right way to respond to my schizophrenia!​
The next problem is that I am like the poor in Proverbs, who his neighbour hates (from memory). Being on a pension - which I did not ask for, by the way - means that people make the bad interpretation that I am trying to cost them money or that I have opportunities that I must be being lazy about. I don't answer for any of these things! To me, anything that doesn't come from those that have made the decision to treat me are irrelevant. Why should I be singled out, again and again? I don't provoke them: I turn the other cheek.​

The last betrayal, is that all this is expected to just vanish when I get a job. I am not believed to have a purpose, a calling, just job after job. If I want to do something about that, I am supposed to do that on my own time, with my own money. But this culture goes back to the first problem, of the misinterpretation of my schizophrenia! The fact that I am not imagined to be able to do anything about it - my life - is (at least thought to be) the reason my schizophrenia won't change. Can you see how circular that is? I can't if I can and I won't if I am. Actually my current psychiatrist is pretty good by relative standards, at least my current psychiatrist is willing to reduce the medication a little here and a little there. But its still so backwards!​
Now, am I making this more complicated than it needs to be? That's really where I need prayer! I am trying not to live by people's expectations, misinterpretation or choices, I'm really trying not. I am trying to get a job, I am trying to practice patience, I am waiting for my psychiatrist to feel slightly more in favour of reducing my medication. There isn't failing in any of these areas, I am just struggling to see God, to trust God. The Lord knows how those who need treatment struggle! Imagine that you were praying for the Lord to overcome a mental condition He had, what would you pray?​
I hope you see this as something, that is not disturbing, just challenging?​
Thank you so much for reading this far!​
PS. Also if you could pray that I survive the medication, it is making me really sluggish. Thanks.​
positive symptoms – any change in behaviour or thoughts, such as hallucinations or delusions​
negative symptoms – where people appear to withdraw from the world around them,​
take no interest in everyday social interactions, and often appear emotionless and flat.​

Hello there, @Gottservant,

Thankfully, we are living in an age when mental health can be diagnosed, and medication given, to counteract the symptoms, enabling the person so afflicted to live and function in society: but, unfortunately, the medication itself has side effects, and therefore the individual needs to be monitored carefully on a regular basis.

I cannot begin to know what it is like to have this condition, @Gottservant, but I do have experience of living with a mental health condition, for a member of my family has been diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder, and has to take medication which in itself is dangerous, and is being monitored closely.

I am assuming that you know the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal Saviour and Lord, and are trusting Him for full salvation, Praise God!
Therefore, His strength is being made perfect in your weakness isn't it @Gottservant? So, the verses which are coming to my mind are in Proverbs 3:5-6, and 2 Corinthians 12:9-10 quoted below:-

'Trust in the LORD with all thine heart;
and lean not unto thine own understanding.
In all thy ways acknowledge Him,
and He shall direct thy paths.'
'And He (God) said unto me (Paul),
My grace is sufficient for thee:
for My strength is made perfect in weakness.
Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities,
that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities,
in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses
for Christ's sake:
for when I am weak, then am I strong.'

Looking through your OP again, I notice that you use the words, 'I really try', 'I am trying, but perhaps you need to just rest in His love and simply give thanks in all things, trusting Him to provide the strength sufficient for every day. You are not alone in this, for we all have to learn to stop striving in our own strength, and simply wait on Him: For His strength is made perfect in our weakness.

You ask what would Jesus do: and I remember that He spent much time in secret, communing with His Heavenly Father: on a mountain top, or in the garden at Gethsemane: and I believe that this is the answer for all of us at times of distress. For He knows what we have need of before we ask (Romans 8:27). Just trust in God with all your heart, and rejoice in all things.


Dear God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ
I thank You for this person, whom I cannot name,
but whom You know and love.
That Your perfect will may be done in Him,
and Your strength accomplish for Him what he needs:
to the praise and glory of Your grace.
In Jesus Name,
Amen

Thank you for sharing.
Just thinking on this has been a blessing.
So you see, simply living and sharing, you are glorifying God.
In your life and witness. Praise God!

Within the love of Christ our Saviour,
our Lord and Head.
Chris
 
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Walk prudently when you go to the house of God; and draw near to hear rather than to give the sacrifice of fools, for they do not know that they do evil.

2 Do not be rash with your mouth,
And let not your heart utter anything hastily before God.
For God is in heaven, and you on earth;
Therefore let your words be few.

3 For a dream comes through much activity,
And a fool’s voice is known by his many words.
4 When you make a vow to God, do not delay to pay it;
For He has no pleasure in fools.
Pay what you have vowed—
5 Better not to vow than to vow and not pay.

6 Do not let your mouth cause your flesh to sin, nor say before the messenger of God that it was an error. Why should God be angry at your [a]excuse and destroy the work of your hands? 7 For in the multitude of dreams and many words there is also vanity. But fear God.

The Vanity of Gain and Honor​

8 If you see the oppression of the poor, and the violent [b]perversion of justice and righteousness in a province, do not marvel at the matter; for high official watches over high official, and higher officials are over them.

9 Moreover the profit of the land is for all; even the king is served from the field.

10 He who loves silver will not be satisfied with silver;
Nor he who loves abundance, with increase.
This also is vanity.

11 When goods increase,
They increase who eat them;
So what profit have the owners
Except to see them with their eyes?

12 The sleep of a laboring man is sweet,
Whether he eats little or much;
But the abundance of the rich will not permit him to sleep.

13 There is a severe evil which I have seen under the sun:
Riches kept for their owner to his hurt.
14 But those riches perish through [c]misfortune;
When he begets a son, there is nothing in his hand.
15 As he came from his mother’s womb, naked shall he return,
To go as he came;
And he shall take nothing from his labor
Which he may carry away in his hand.

16 And this also is a severe evil—
Just exactly as he came, so shall he go.
And what profit has he who has labored for the wind?
17 All his days he also eats in darkness,
And he has much sorrow and sickness and anger.

18 Here is what I have seen: It is good and fitting for one to eat and drink, and to enjoy the good of all his labor in which he toils under the sun all the days of his life which God gives him; for it is his [d]heritage. 19 As for every man to whom God has given riches and wealth, and given him power to eat of it, to receive his [e]heritage and rejoice in his labor—this is the gift of God. 20 For he will not dwell unduly on the days of his life, because God keeps him busy with the joy of his heart.
 

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Hi there,

So who wants a pity story, right? The thing is, I am being betrayed on all sides, by bad choices, bad interpretation, bed expectation. I have schizophrenia, which in and of itself is neither good or bad, but interpretation makes it change. The bad choice, is for my physician to say "we are not able to reverse the schizophrenia, therefore we must assume it is ingrained", that's not the right way to respond to my schizophrenia!

Hi Gottservant
Having read your posts for some time now...
I'm very sorry to hear of your problem.
I know a young person that became diagnozed with shitzophrenia when he was 26 years old.
He's in his 50's now and is actually doing better than in the past when medicine was giving him problems.

I believe your doctor is trying to be honest with you.
Sometimes we don't get the answer that we would like and we have to make the best of the situation we're in.

The next problem is that I am like the poor in Proverbs, who his neighbour hates (from memory). Being on a pension - which I did not ask for, by the way - means that people make the bad interpretation that I am trying to cost them money or that I have opportunities that I must be being lazy about. I don't answer for any of these things! To me, anything that doesn't come from those that have made the decision to treat me are irrelevant. Why should I be singled out, again and again? I don't provoke them: I turn the other cheek.
And turning the cheek is what you should continue to do.
We have to remember that the love of God is not in most persons,
and without the love of God they will not be able to understand properly.
You know what 1 Corinthians 2 says about the natural man.

It's unfortunate that they cannot be a positive influence on you...
or be of any help...
but it is what it is and we must accept that most persons are lost and we can
only pray for them.


The last betrayal, is that all this is expected to just vanish when I get a job. I am not believed to have a purpose, a calling, just job after job. If I want to do something about that, I am supposed to do that on my own time, with my own money. But this culture goes back to the first problem, of the misinterpretation of my schizophrenia! The fact that I am not imagined to be able to do anything about it - my life - is (at least thought to be) the reason my schizophrenia won't change. Can you see how circular that is? I can't if I can and I won't if I am. Actually my current psychiatrist is pretty good by relative standards, at least my current psychiatrist is willing to reduce the medication a little here and a little there. But its still so backwards!
A job could be a calling.
Your positive attitude, in your situation, could be a calling.
Your good relationship with your doctor (any one) could be a calling.
EVERYTHING you do is a calling to which you respond with the love of God.

Life gets tiring at times,,,
we have to accept and do the best we can with the help of God.
Just knowing Jesus is alive is of help to me...even if temporal help does not come.

Temporal = Worldly,,,
yeah. Sometimes we would need worldly help too.

Now, am I making this more complicated than it needs to be? That's really where I need prayer! I am trying not to live by people's expectations, misinterpretation or choices, I'm really trying not. I am trying to get a job, I am trying to practice patience, I am waiting for my psychiatrist to feel slightly more in favour of reducing my medication. There isn't failing in any of these areas, I am just struggling to see God, to trust God. The Lord knows how those who need treatment struggle! Imagine that you were praying for the Lord to overcome a mental condition He had, what would you pray?

I hope you see this as something, that is not disturbing, just challenging?

Thank you so much for reading this far!

PS. Also if you could pray that I survive the medication, it is making me really sluggish. Thanks.
Sluggish is not so bad Gott.....
you know very well it could be worse.
Be thankful that things are the way they are.
You're not making it more complicated...
LIFE is complicated.
It's always our response to it that can turn us into resentful persons.
I try to be happy with what I have and try to think of the positive in my life.

Dear Lord we struggle to live in this world you have placed us in with all its troubles and bad experiences caused by both nature and by those that do not know you please help us to accept what may come our way to cling close to you and feel your comfort and your love since you yourself became human as we are and understand our pain in being in this life we long to feel your presence and pray that we might and we pray in your mighty name amen.
 

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Let me share my testimony....years ago I suffered allergy attacks that would turn into sinus infection and then to bronchitis. It would last over a week and it happened every season change.
One day I could tell I was at the beginning of an allergy attack because my eyes became watery and itchy and I was sneezing all day long. I prayed and asked God to please heal me of MY ALLERGIES. He said if you will quit calling them yours then I can and will Heal you.
From that day forward I never put "my" before any unwanted sickness in my body. I realized I was claiming ownership by calling it mine.
I urge you to change your words. Instead of saying "I have schizophrenia", just say "I have the mind of Christ and no symptoms of mental illness will dwell in my body."
Words are very powerful and can affect our lives in every way.