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Do you not believe Jesus?To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord (2 Corinthians 5:8).
You're misunderstanding that passage. It refers to the resirrection.
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Do you not believe Jesus?To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord (2 Corinthians 5:8).
And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. (Jn. 3:13 KJV)We, as believers, are members of the body of Christ. So, when Jesus ascends, we ascend.
Likewise the Old Testament prophets were members of the body of Christ, since they were indwelt by His Spirit (1 Peter 1:11).
And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. (Jn. 3:13 KJV)
To be raptured prior to the great tribulation means being 'gathered' to the Antichrist.
The reason why Lord Jesus warned to NOT believe those who will be saying that He is come, is because the first supernatural one working great signs and wonders on earth will be the pseudo-Christ, which is the Antichrist John said shall come.
That first one is who the Pre-tribulationalists are being told to gather to, unknowingly. Their leaders are fakes, and twist the warnings about this that is clearly written in God's Word.
Their doctrine is a soothsayer's doctrine, designed to pet and stroke those weak in the Faith. Their pastors are those of Ezekiel 13 which God has rebuke for, that He said He did not speak to, nor send. God said they preach their own word, hoping others will confirm. God said He is against those pastors who hunt the souls to make them fly.
according to you I guess Paul was wrong when he spoke of the last trumpet sounding then.
Jesus is returning For those people that Believe in , look for and Expect the Rapture. those people that mock and scoff at the rapture and do not believe in, look For and expect the rapture will be left Behind!! Hebrews 9:28=Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To ""those who eagerly wait for Him"" He will appear a second time.
Those that do not look for and expect the rapture are left behind and then must then try to live under anti-christ rule.
last trump refers to the second coming like Matt 24
Refers to the second coming not rapture
2 thes 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
read the passage again it does not refer to the second coming because Christ comes in the air. Those that are dead in Christ are raise and the living are changed and caught up at the last trumpet. Christ does return the second time with all those righteous in him.
Where does the chapter teach that last part? "Those that do not look for and expect the rapture are left behind and then must then try to live under anti-christ rule."Jesus is returning For those people that Believe in , look for and Expect the Rapture. those people that mock and scoff at the rapture and do not believe in, look For and expect the rapture will be left Behind!! Hebrews 9:28=Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To ""those who eagerly wait for Him"" He will appear a second time.
Those that do not look for and expect the rapture are left behind and then must then try to live under anti-christ rule.
No matter rapture just second coming sorryWhere does the chapter teach that last part? "Those that do not look for and expect the rapture are left behind and then must then try to live under anti-christ rule."
You're saying the rapture is the second coming of Christ?No matter rapture just second coming sorry
I did not say Christians are left behind. The OP did.Christians are left behind?
1 thes 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
YesYou're saying the rapture is the second coming of Christ?