John 1:1 looked at HONESTLY!

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BroRando

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You can shake your head all you want. It does not make it factual that there is not three persons of the godhead.

According to scripture there is a whole lot more than three persons in the Godhead. "I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one." (John 17:22)
 
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"Several saw God in the OT. It was the Son"

I know it's correct. Jesus is God.

I would say you're wasting your time, Planck.

Almost every point, and verse, that you've presented has already been presented, some multiple times, in this very thread.

Whether it is Denialism, Cognitive Dissonance or simply a bad case of Passionate Refusal, they are not going to accept the Truth of the matter ... not as long as they'd have to admit it here anyway.

BUT ... then what would these threads be good for, right??

Knock yourself out. ;)

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According to scripture there is a whole lot more than three persons in the Godhead. "I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one." (John 17:22)
This is too much. lol

Are you a god?
 

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I would say you're wasting your time, Planck.

Almost every point, and verse, that you've presented has already been presented, some multiple times, in this very thread.

Whether it is Denialism, Cognitive Dissonance or simply a bad case of Passionate Refusal, they are not going to accept the Truth of the matter ... not as long as they'd have to admit it here anyway.

BUT ... then what would these threads be good for, right??

Knock yourself out. ;)

God bless.
I know that many will reject Truth, but it's still the responsibility of Christians to preach it, for Judgment Day, if they reject it.
 

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This is too much. lol

kcnalp still denies the words of Jesus Christ. "I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one." (John 17:22)

Who was Jesus praying to another God? (John 17:1)

Wasn't he praying to the only true God? (John 17:3)
 

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I know that many will reject Truth, but it's still the responsibility of Christians to preach it, for Judgment Day, if they reject it.

Right. Well aware, AND agree. (but some are FAR beyond adamantly refusing to listen to any level of reason, not to mention any number of scriptures to prove a point)

Carry on. Please.

As you were.
 
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kcnalp still denies the words of Jesus Christ. "I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one." (John 17:22)

Who was Jesus praying to another God? (John 17:1)

Wasn't he praying to the only true God? (John 17:3)
Is that why you ask lots of questions but seldom answer questions? Are you a god?
 

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kcnalp-- a Question. How come you don't like quoting the words of Jesus Christ?

I always see you quoting falsehoods from Jesus Christ enemies. Just saying....
 

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kcnalp-- a Question. How come you don't like quoting the words of Jesus Christ?

I always see you quoting falsehoods from Jesus Christ enemies. Just saying....
Is that why you avoid answering questions like plague?
 

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Planck, I'm afraid I have to ask:

Why did you choose the name of a SCIENTIST who was not only an atheist, but encouraged people to dispose of their faith in order to truly learn SCIENCE??

Kinda strange for a Christian Website, isn't it?

Just curious....
 

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Planck, I'm afraid I have to ask:

Why did you choose the name of a SCIENTIST who was not only an atheist, but encouraged people to dispose of their faith in order to truly learn SCIENCE??

Kinda strange for a Christian Website, isn't it?

Just curious....
kcnalp
 

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Yeah, I don't know who you think you're fooling with that backwards written heretical name.

Planck was tolerant and favorable to all religions.(heretical religious unity) Although he remained in the Lutheran Church, he did not promote Christian or Biblical views. He believed "the faith in miracles must yield, step by step, before the steady and firm advance of the facts of science, and its total defeat is undoubtedly a matter of time."

Max Planck - Wikipedia
 
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Now a little fun!

Do you read John 1:1 as follows~

"In the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was Jesus, and the Word was Jesus"
 

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Yeah, I don't know who you think you're fooling with that backwards written heretical name.

Planck was tolerant and favorable to all religions.(heretical religious unity) Although he remained in the Lutheran Church, he did not promote Christian or Biblical views. He believed "the faith in miracles must yield, step by step, before the steady and firm advance of the facts of science, and its total defeat is undoubtedly a matter of time."

Max Planck - Wikipedia
Enjoy your obsession with Max. I know nothing about him.
 

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John 1:1- In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God.
2- He was in the beginning with God;
3- all things were made through him, and without him was not anything made that was made.

Now Trinitarians have Triune Tunnel Vision, focusing only only the "with"!

Do you have to explain "WITH" according to the English language, throwing in Church Lingo?
Moses was referred to as God, the angel to Gideon is referred to as God- so we have in biblical language the fact that people representing God are referred to as such.

The Bible speaks of God creating all things THROUGH Jesus- according to the English language, or do we have to throw in Church Lingo, to make the dogma 'make sense'?
If you want to look at the spoken word honestly, then do it.