The Reformers Biggest Mistake and Christianity's Need to Change it

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Hello you and welcome.

I think that Bible is one of the greatest gifts to humanity when it is in the right right hands. I also think it can be the greatest curse, if it is in the wrong hands.

This video is 12 minutes long.
The Reformers Biggest Mistake and Christianity's Need to Change it

Do you have any thoughts about on these things?
 
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Hello you and welcome.

I think that Bible is one of the greatest gifts to humanity when it is in the right right hands. I also think it can be the greatest curse, if it is in the wrong hands.

This video is 12 minutes long.
The Reformers Biggest Mistake and Christianity's Need to Change it

Do you have any thoughts about on these things?
I don't really watch these videos, but if you could summarize what he's saying that would be helpful.

Much love!
 

MatthewG

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I think the Bible is the greatest gift to humanity when it is the right hands, I also think it can be the biggest curse if is the wrong hands.
 

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I think the Bible is the greatest gift to humanity when it is the right hands, I also think it can be the biggest curse if is the wrong hands.
Is that what this video is about (since I do not watch videos)? The use of the Bible by the Reformers was a cursed thing? From where are you getting your information? The biggest mistake of the Reformers was to not make A CLEAN BREAK from the Catholic church. And at this point in Church history, it is far too late to fix anything.
 

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The point of the video is how the bible laying on the table by itself is not good or evil.

If a bible is picked up by someone depending on how they are teaching can be good or be used to harm others in their faith like that of a sword.

The bible is described as ; the word of God is sharper than any two-edged sword.

People can idolize the bible and make it the authority and use it as a sword and hurt others with it, if not used properly which is by and through the spirit which God gives, while trying to promote and encourage love, rather than any type of doctrine (knowledge) that shows contempt, judgment, and condemnation towards others.
 

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Do you make the bible authority?

I have to make a decision here: To let the living God of the bible : who also lives outside of the bible ~ be the authority in my life.

Or do I make the bible my authority in my life instead?

What do you choose? The bible as your authority or living by the spirit instead?

These are my questions @marks
 

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Do you make the bible authority?

I have to make a decision here: To I let the living God of the bible : who also lives outside of the bible ~ be the authority in my life.

Or do I make the bible my authority in my life instead?

What do you choose? The bible as your authority or living by the spirit instead?

These are my questions @marks
Hello my friend . how bout this for an answer .
I let the Spirit be my guide and the Spirit put me in ONE BOOK the BIBLE .
And by learning it we become wise through the work of the Spirit .
SO here is what i do . I test anything and everything folks do teach , say and do .
IF it contradicts the scriptures , I KNOW it aint OF THE SPIRIT .
HOW so you might ask , cause the SPIRIT INSPIRED THE SCRIPTURES . IT wont contradict what IT INSPIRED .
IF it does , IT AINT THE HOLY SPIRIT . Its another spirit working through the flesh . that is all it is .
I cling to THE SPIRIT and i cling to ONE BOOK . THE HOLY BIBLE .
 

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Do you make the bible authority?

I have to make a decision here: To let the living God of the bible : who also lives outside of the bible ~ be the authority in my life.

Or do I make the bible my authority in my life instead?

What do you choose? The bible as your authority or living by the spirit instead?

These are my questions @marks
There is no difference between what the Bible speaks to me, and what God speaks to me. The Bible is His voice the same as the Holy Spirit inside is His voice.

Declaring the authority of the Scriptures is to uphold the authority of God.

Much love!
 

amigo de christo

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Is the Bible not authoritative?

Much love!
The SPIRIT inspired that book . thus if any other spirit , any other man , if even a donkey spoke
and contradicted the bible , I WONT HEED IT . Cause GOD dont contradict TRUTH . HE IS TRUTH .
JESUS dont contradict truth . HE IS TRUTH . The TRUE HOLY SPIRIT wont contradict the truth , IT IS TRUTH .
AND no scripture was inspired by man . BUT BY THE HOLY GHOST . ITS that simple .
 

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There are people out here who idolize the bible making it their God rather than looking towards the Living God Himself who is with us by and through the Lord Jesus Christ whom resides in us by and through faith on the whom came, lived, died, and resurrected. If we believe in our heart God raised Him from the dead believers shall be saved to the kingdom of heaven.

The bible has been used to justify many things : that are not good or healthy also it can be used to demand others to conform to a person who is using the bibles ways, rather than allowing freedom by the spirit and there is freedom where the spirit of the Lord is.

Hello my friend . how bout this for an answer .
I let the Spirit be my guide and the Spirit put me in ONE BOOK the BIBLE .
And by learning it we become wise through the work of the Spirit .
SO here is what i do . I test anything and everything folks do teach , say and do .
IF it contradicts the scriptures , I KNOW it aint OF THE SPIRIT .
HOW so you might ask , cause the SPIRIT INSPIRED THE SCRIPTURES . IT wont contradict what IT INSPIRED .
IF it does , IT AINT THE HOLY SPIRIT . Its another spirit working through the flesh . that is all it is .
I cling to THE SPIRIT and i cling to ONE BOOK . THE HOLY BIBLE .

That is awesome, Amigo. I would want to be taught or listen to someone who is using the bible for good and edification of others encouraging in faith, hope, love rather than to put someone down a road of bondage of must do this and must do that type of turmoil.

I agree test everything: Test everything that is being taught by anyone and trust in God, and the Lord Jesus Christ ~

There is no difference between what the Bible speaks to me, and what God speaks to me. The Bible is His voice the same as the Holy Spirit inside is His voice.

Declaring the authority of the Scriptures is to uphold the authority of God.

Much love!

No difference to you that is fine. That is you.

Here is my question:
But what about others who may use the bible wrongly? Do you have any thoughts about this? Do people use the bible wrongly in life? OR is everyone using it on the same bar and page?

Would you listen to someone who is teaching the bible in a wrong way?
 
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Is that what this video is about (since I do not watch videos)? The use of the Bible by the Reformers was a cursed thing? From where are you getting your information? The biggest mistake of the Reformers was to not make A CLEAN BREAK from the Catholic church. And at this point in Church history, it is far too late to fix anything.
All this is about is bringing us back to the RCC . AND I WONT DO IT .
The RCC is not only trying to unite all the faiths , it is uniting the religoins and the faiths with those religoins .
TO be as one . AND who will sit over this new inclusive religion .
WELL , the last time i checked the motto from men is , we are all catholic . ITS GONNA BE THE RCC .
We cannot enter into this false dead unity with death . We must stand , and stand upon the STONE of our foundation .
Let us learn our bibles well . Cause a lot of folks are going under this delusion my friend . many are .
 

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There are people out here who idolize the bible making it their God rather than looking towards the Living God Himself who is with us by and through the Lord Jesus Christ whom resides in us by and through faith on the whom came, lived, died, and resurrected. If we believe in our heart God raised Him from the dead believers shall be saved to the kingdom of heaven.

The bible has been used to justify many things : that are not good or healthy also it can be used to demand others to conform to a person who is using the bibles ways, rather than allowing freedom by the spirit and there is freedom where the spirit of the Lord is.



That is awesome, Amigo. I would want to be taught or listen to someone who is using the bible for good and edification of others encouraging in faith, hope, love rather than to put someone down a road of bondage of must do this and must do that type of turmoil.

I agree test everything: Test everything that is being taught by anyone and trust in God, and the Lord Jesus Christ ~



No difference to you that is fine. That is you.

Here is my question:
But what about others who may use the bible wrongly? Do you have any thoughts about this? Do people use the bible wrongly in life? OR is everyone using it on the same bar and page?

Would you listen to someone who is teaching the bible in a wrong way?
Those who use the bible wrong , that is on them . Many do . The RCC does big time , so do many protestants as well .
We must behold , as pual once wrote , both the severity and the goodness of God . Heed every warning , heed and beleive
the promises . But learn those bibles well . For we have many , specially in this day and age
who are grouping together under both a false unity and a false love .
And its gaining ground like nothing i have ever seen .
True unity puts JESUS , His teachings , above all . FROM THAT we can then see clearly to follow true unity verses false unity .
Unity for the sake of unity is deadly . Unity with those who love Christ and focus on sound doctrine , THAT
is the only unity lambs can have . Doctrine is being pushed out . And i dont just mean men made doctrines , cause i shove that out as well .
I mean JESUS own teachings are getting cast aside for the sake of this ever growing false unity and love .
WE cannot enter that path . Soon enough not only will the faiths emerge as one , so will all the religoins .
The mainsteam flow . I will have no part or lott in that matter .
I will stand alone if i must , but only the true gospel and all reminders JESUS gave , the apostels gave
all good sound biblcal doctrine , WILL NOT be cast out for the sake of the unity . NOPE , i simply have unity
with those who stand on that same JESUS . But we are quite small in number and the other false unity side
grows by leaps and bounds daily . WE must have no part of the false unity .
 
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Thank you for your words Amigo, and hope you have a good rest of the day.

The bible is only reliable as the person whom is using it. In my best estimation.

Thank you for answering

@marks; They are people who make the bible their idol that make the bible as it is equal to God Himself.

It is possible to make the bible their idol to the point where cults come up and people come in and indoctrinated and then the group leader has everyone join in a suicide by drinking suicide punch?

Of course it is possible Marks. No sense in playing as if the bible can not be used dangerously and for evil.

I read the bible and use it and believe it is a very useful tool for growing faith, love, and hope in God, and the Lord Jesus Christ myself personally that is my thoughts on the bible itself and believe it is the greatest gift to humanity when it is used properly but it can be used wrongly.
 
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There are people out here who idolize the bible making it their God...
Why are you promoting this fallacy, since you yourself need the Bible to lead you into all truth? What you have said is a FALSEHOOD since no genuine Christian makes his or her Bible their god.
 

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Let me ask you this: Enoch111, is it possible for people to idolize the bible?

I have no problem with the bible. The bible laying on the table by itself ; has no value it just sitting there on the table. The bible is only reliable as the person who is using it; and teaching it. That is when a person needs to discern by the spirit.

Is this person teaching what relates to what Jesus Christ said about being loving, kind, forgiving, having mercy towards others ?

Is this person teaching what relates to what Jesus Christ did not say, and goes around condemning others, judging, telling people they are not Christian, even when they are Christian, and things of this nature would be a bit more worrisome to deal with would you not agree?
 
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The bible is only reliable as the person whom is using it. In my best estimation.

Isaiah 55:8-11 KJV
8) For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
9) For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
10) For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:
11) So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

Much love!
 
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@marks; They are people who make the bible their idol that make the bible as it is equal to God Himself.

It is possible to make the bible their idol to the point where cults come up and people come in and indoctrinated and then the group leader has everyone join in a suicide by drinking suicide punch?

Of course it is possible Marks. No sense in playing as if the bible can not be used dangerously and for evil.

You can beat someone over the head with a Bible also, if you want. The Bible isn't what is dangerous, it's the person hitting you with it.

The Bible's words are not dangerous in human hands, but their lies about the Bible are dangerous.

I think that "claiming to hold to the authority of Scripture" is like "Jim Jones telling his people to drink poison kool-aide" is a false equivelancy. They are not the same thing.

Much love!