So, are Daniel 7:25 and Amos 8:11-12 related in prophecy?

[Waiting on him]

Branches is a metaphor. Jesus is the vine, we sre the branches. The chosen nation, starting with Abraham, was where the seed started to grow. Branches (un believing Jews) were broken off so that the Gentiles could be grafted in.
Paul is speaking to the Roman Christians. He said you will say, "I... " (vs. 18) means any one of them or us. Anyone of us can make that statement in vs. 19.

Wait a minute, I thought the branches were broken off?

 

[Waiting on him]

Romans 11:13

13 But I am speaking to you who are Gentiles.

Paul is claiming the Gentiles are the "I". The Gentiles claim salvation (grafted in) because Israel was broken off.

Oh, I see should read
But Gentiles am speaking to you who are Gentiles.

thanks.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Revelation 14:v.17 to 20

17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven(heaven? Ephesians 1:v.3), he also having a sharp sickle.

18 And another angel came out from the altar, which has power over FIRE(For what?); and cried with a loud cry to him that has the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.

19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of GOD.

20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.


The Everlasting Spirit of GOD is a devouring/consuming FIRE

What is your point? Do you think your scriptures above have anything to do with Romans 11 scripture? I don't. Branches broken off happened during Jesus time.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Wait a minute, I thought the branches were broken off?

Branches is a metaphor for God's people. Many of the Jews did not believe and receive Christ. For their unbelief, they were broken off of the vine.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Nope, I just believe that the god of this world has blinded so many Christians with these newer versions. If someone were to tell you that something was added, or something was taken away, you wouldn't even know it because of all the confusion Qrigen, and consequentially Westcott & Hort have caused.

"W&H/The New Testament in the Original Greek is not the basis for any modern translation of the Bible. Rather, the United Bible Societies and Nestle-Aland critical texts are typically sourced for English translations today."
Differences are trial among most translations. They all pretty much say the same thing. I have my favorites, old and new.
About that phrase you said was added, again what point did I miss?

 

[Oseas]

What is your point? Do you think your scriptures above have anything to do with Romans 11 scripture? I don't. Branches broken off happened during Jesus time.

Yes, Romans 11:v.3 to 5

3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.

4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.




A remnant is saved

Revelation 14:v.1-3
1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with Him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:

3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four living beings, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were REDEEMED from the earth. (earth here is Israel)


In the Elijah's time there were only seven thousand true Israelite (Romans 11:v.3 to 5) and now, in the end of Dispensation of Grace, only 144k will be sealed and saved because believe in JESUS and love Him, in LITERAL fulfillment of Isaiah 1:v.8-9, among others.

Revelation 7:v.1-4

1 And after these things (things written in Rev.6:v.14 to 17) I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,

3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Yes, Romans 11:v.3 to 5

3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.

4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.




A remnant is saved

Revelation 14:v.1-3
1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with Him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:

3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four living beings, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were REDEEMED from the earth. (earth here is Israel)


In the Elijah's time there were only seven thousand true Israelite (Romans 11:v.3 to 5) and now, in the end of Dispensation of Grace, only 144k will be sealed and saved because believe in JESUS and love Him, in LITERAL fulfillment of Isaiah 1:v.8-9, among others.

Revelation 7:v.1-4

1 And after these things (things written in Rev.6:v.14 to 17) I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,

3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

144k male virgins. Don't ya think they would need 144k female virvins to repopulate the earth? There will be many more aavws than that. Two Witnesses prophesy and evangelize for 3 1/2 years with power in Jerusalem. Possibly Enoch and Elijah or Moses. Wouldn't that get many Jews enlightened?

 

[Oseas]

144k male virgins. Don't ya think they would need 144k demale virvins to repopulate the earth? There will be many more aavws than that. Two Witnesses prophesy and evangelize for 3 1/2 years with power in Jerusalem. Possibly Enoch and Elijah or Moses. Wouldn't that get many Jews enlightened?

You are saying that. The letter kills, but the spirit gives life. GOD is not a GOD of the dead, but of the living.
So they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain the next world-the Kingdom of GOD-, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage: Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.

 

[Waiting on him]

144k male virgins. Don't ya think they would need 144k demale virvins to repopulate the earth? There will be many more aavws than that. Two Witnesses prophesy and evangelize for 3 1/2 years with power in Jerusalem. Possibly Enoch and Elijah or Moses. Wouldn't that get many Jews enlightened?

Or possibly Jesus and John the Baptist? I’d say they were a pretty good witness, and many Jews repented on behalf OT that witness.

 

[Oseas]

Or possibly Jesus and John the Baptist? I’d say they were a pretty good witness, and many Jews repented on behalf OT that witness.

Neither JESUS, nor John the Baptist. Also neither Enoch, nor Moses or Elijah, but the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

The letter kills, but the spirit gives life. GOD is not a GOD of the dead, but of the living.
So they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain the next world-the Kingdom of GOD-, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage: Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.

I made that point. The Church will be ressurected and receive new bodies that do not procreate.
Who then in the Millennial Kingdom is procreating?
"No more shall there be in it
an infant that lives but a few days,
or an old person who does not live out a lifetime;
for one who dies at a hundred years will be considered a youth,
and one who falls short of a hundred will be considered accursed." ISAIAH 65:20
(this correlates to Rev. 20:6 & Isaiah 11:6-8)

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Or possibly Jesus and John the Baptist? I’d say they were a pretty good witness, and many Jews repented on behalf OT that witness.

Are you saying that the two witnesses in Revelation were Jesus and John?
They were both killed different ways and they didn't lie in the street for three days dead and then rise and ascend.

 

[The Parson]

"W&H/The New Testament in the Original Greek is not the basis for any modern translation of the Bible. Rather, the United Bible Societies and Nestle-Aland critical texts are typically sourced for English translations today."
Differences are trial among most translations. They all pretty much say the same thing. I have my favorites, old and new.
About that phrase you said was added, again what point did I miss?

You can't separate the first edition Eberhard Nestle text of Tischendorf, Westcott and Hort and Weymouth from that, because it comprises of the Westcott and Hort manuscripts which are the Nestle-Aland edition. Gee whiz...

Never the less, you're talking with someone who wouldn't touch any of those texts with a 10 foot pole. I've preached, and studied from the King James for the better part of 30 years, and know my scripture. I also know that the Authorized Version has not been edited to include any text other than the Received Text! Are you understanding what I'm trying to say now?

 

[Truth7t7]

"W&H/The New Testament in the Original Greek is not the basis for any modern translation of the Bible. Rather, the United Bible Societies and Nestle-Aland critical texts are typically sourced for English translations today."
Differences are trial among most translations. They all pretty much say the same thing. I have my favorites, old and new.
About that phrase you said was added, again what point did I miss?

Westcott & Hort are in the lineage of translation from the Alexandrian Text Type

The vast majority of new translations, NIV, NASB, ESV, RSV, Catholic Bible, Etc follow the (Novum Testamentum Graece) "Created" by Adulterers Kurt and Barbara Aland, and Homosexual union supporter, Jesuit roman catholic cardinal (Carlo Maria Martini)

Many are unaware of the foundation in the new translations, to be found in the figures mentioned above

(Kurt Aland) divorced his wife Ingeborg, and ran off with and married his college student (Barbara Nee Ehlers), being 22 years her senior (Adultery)

Did God use the figures mentioned above, to preserve his words in a greek text named (Novum Testamentum Graece)?

 

[The Parson]

follow the (Novum Testamentum Graece) "Created" by Adulterers Kurt and Barbara Aland, and Homosexual union supporter, Jesuit roman catholic cardinal (Carlo Maria Martini)

Oh, there's more. But I couldn't have said it better myself. "Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free."

 

[Truth7t7]

Oh, there's more. But I couldn't have said it better myself. "Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free."

Good try "No Cigar" the word is written in my mind and heart, hope I passed the test?

Jesus Is The Lord

John 8:32KJV
32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

 

[The Parson]

How about; my people perish for lack of knowledge?

 

[The Parson]

Or look this one up for yourself and tell me what it says today; Exodus 34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the Lord is a jealous God:

 

[Truth7t7]

I made that point. The Church will be ressurected and receive new bodies that do not procreate.
Who then in the Millennial Kingdom is procreating?
"No more shall there be in it
an infant that lives but a few days,
or an old person who does not live out a lifetime;
for one who dies at a hundred years will be considered a youth,
and one who falls short of a hundred will be considered accursed." ISAIAH 65:20
(this correlates to Rev. 20:6 & Isaiah 11:6-8)

Isaiah Chapter 65 is the (Eternal Kingdom) in the New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, same place seen in Revelation 21:1-5

Isaiah 65:17-18KJV
17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
18 But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.

Revelation 21:1-5KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Isaiah Chapter 11 & 65 same place, the (Eternal Kingdom) in the New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, same wolf, lamb, lion, ox/bullock

Isaiah 11:6-7KJV
6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

Isaiah 65:25KJV
25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord.

 

[Waiting on him]

Isaiah Chapter 65 is the (Eternal Kingdom) in the New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, same place seen in Revelation 21:1-5

Isaiah 65:17-18KJV
17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
18 But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.

Revelation 21:1-5KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Isaiah Chapter 11 & 65 same place, the (Eternal Kingdom) in the New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, same wolf, lamb, lion, ox/bullock

Isaiah 11:6-7KJV
6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

Isaiah 65:25KJV
25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord.

2 Corinthians 5:16-17 KJV
[16] Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more. [17] Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
How many times does God make the new things new?