new version of OSAS?

[Ferris Bueller]

Again, deflecting with gaslighting and accusation of intellectual dishonesty.

Much love!

Just give me the scripture, dude. That's all you have to do. Frustrating, isn't it? It doesn't exist. Time to let the Spirit of honestly sink in, friend. Recognize the fact that you have a false, non-Biblical argument.

 

[marks]

If you keep accusing me of trying to earn my salvation by doing what the Bible tells us to do

OK, sure, and . . . once again . . . yes . . . yet again . . . that's not what I said. I'm not seeing that it matters to you what I actually said.

Much love!

 

[BloodBought 1953]

The saved, born again Galatians stopped believing.

The never stopped “ believing”...... they started “ Adding”—— according to Paul, that was plenty “ bad enough” .....Paul, in the Book Of Galatians , never said that they we’re Lost....they were “ Fallen from Grace” and opinions about what that entails can and does vary......

Paul Said The Galatians “ started out so well” and that even after all the stumbling that they did..... even after all the False, Perverted “ Gospels” that they had been exposed to——he “expected better things from them “...... He was confident that they would get back “ on track”.....

The ones in trouble were the ones that “ Preached” these False, Perverted Gospels ........what was ”Their” Fate ? ....Eternal,Damnation...Paul Said that they were “ Accursed”....a kinder, gentler way of saying “ God - Damned”.....

How many in here are “ Accursed” , preaching their “ Gospel” Additions Of “ Jesus Saves—- BUT !”

 

[marks]

Just give me the scripture, dude. That's all you have to do. Frustrating, isn't it? It doesn't exist. Time to let the Spirit of honestly sink in, friend. Recognize the fact that you have a false, non-Biblical argument.

You've pretty much twisted this beyond recognition.

Hm.

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"marks, post: 1033333, member: 7985"

That's not the point. If you want to respond, respond to what I said. Not just try to dance me in circles. That's beneath both of us.

Salvation given as a gift of grace remains a gift of grace, giving glory to God. To say otherwise, that you hold your own salvation in your hands . . . as if you had power over that gift . . . as if you were not actually the child of God, but would decide FOR the child of God, or some other scenario, gives glory to yourself. You kept believing!! Hooray for you!! Giving glory to you.

Just who is it that you think is going to "choose to stop believing"? The new creation child of God? How significant - or insignificant - are you thinking rebirth is?

Now, all things are from God. All things new.

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Here's one.

Much love!

 

[Ferris Bueller]

You DO realize . . . right? that "earn your salvation" was not my words? That I said something different?

Much love!

Good grief, man! What do you think the 'boast' of the 'works' gospel means, lol! It means you're taking credit for earning your own salvation.

 

[BloodBought 1953]

God took the Levitical ministry away from Israel.

He took away a Responsibility That He gave them and that they blew....a lame illustration if there ever was one....

 

[marks]

Good grief, man! What do you think the boast of the 'works' gospel means, lol! It means you're taking credit for earning your own salvation.

More deflection . . . As if that were what I wrote . . . but it's not . . . One has to wonder!

Much love!

 

[amigo de christo]

You're calling Jesus a liar!

Matthew 25:41 (NKJV)
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:


Jesus is a liar? Pity you!

Yes, you sound like a JW, heading for Hell fire.

Revelation 20:10 (NKJV)
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

I think it would be real simple if we just kept it like it teaches in the bible .
And from that pattern i see a good example . We know for a sure fact that the lake of fire is prepared for such .
And we know for a fact from revelation that even during the thousand years the FP and beast are burning alive IN IT .
They were not instantly destroyed . I say to everyone , lets just keep what is in the bible and watch out
for what men do teach . Many will try and downplay the severity of GOD .
Instead why not just preach Christ and let us learn all His sayings . I mean , if we have Christ we wont have to worry
about the lake of fire . May all be encouraged .

 

[Ferris Bueller]

More deflection . . . As if that were what I wrote . . . but it's not . . . One has to wonder!

Much love!

An accusation of 'deflection' isn't going to save your argument. I've answered everything you've asked.

 

[marks]

An accusation of 'deflection' isn't going to save your argument. I've answered everything you've asked.

And . . . gaslighting . . . repeating over and over something not true.

This is getting boring again.

Much love!

 

[Ferris Bueller]

He took away a Responsibility That He gave them and that they blew....a lame illustration if there ever was one....

He gave them a gift, he took it away. But I guess since it doesn't fit the false application of Romans 11:29 it doesn't count. Lol, how predictable.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

And . . . gaslighting . . . repeating over and over something not true.

This is getting boring again.

Much love!

Walk away. Your choice, friend. Your pride isn't keeping you from letting it go, is it? Your accusations are false and you can't show they're not without somehow putting the fault on me. That's your pride, dude. Why can't you just admit you can't provide a verse that backs up your accusation? That would be the right, and just, Christian thing to do. I won't think less of you for doing it. I will have much respect for you if you do. What I can't respect is your refusal to admit you can't back up your accusation.

 

[BloodBought 1953]

You do realize I've been debating on internet Christian Forums for over 20 years? I'm not going to engage in your fallacies, but I'm going to point them out.



Please keep doing so.....you do a great job.....He is the best “ Springboard” to get the Truth Of The Gospel out there for Vulnerable Newbies since the “Hey- Day” Of “ justbyfaithplusluckyrepentance”....

 

[Ferris Bueller]

@marks, I'm not interested in rubbing your nose in it. Just stop leveling your accusation against what I'm saying, that you can't back up, and we'll be good.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

He is the best “ Springboard” to get the Truth Of The Gospel out...

If only you knew, BB, if only you knew, lol! I might fill you in soon. When I close my account here. Stay tuned.

 

[amigo de christo]

Christ doesn't intercede for unbelievers. That's what this thread is all about—this stupid new version of osas that says Christ rejecting, Christ denying unbelievers are saved. You'd be better off going back to the old version of osas that says they were never saved to begin with.

its coming from the all inclusive side . men are trying to prepare us to accept all religoins as being saved and such .
We must stand firm on the original gospel and all things JESUS taught . Always remind .
Always remind . JESUS did . paul did . paul warned in more than one place about us having to CONTINUE in Christ .
To continue in the faith . And not to be moved away from it .

 

[amigo de christo]

If only you knew, BB, if only you knew, lol! I might fill you in soon. When I close my account here. Stay tuned.

This new stuff is gonna take places over . They are already being groomed for the very plan of the RCC .
We are witnessing a tragedy . WHEN DID JESUS ever teach folks even if they stopped believing they are and would be saved .
NEVER . Nor did any of them .
This false love stuff has invaded the churches and folks are running with it . We must stand firm on the original gospel .
And all sound biblical doctrine . many are not gonna make it .
JESUS will tell many folks ON HIS day , you who taught folks they could stop believing in ME , NEVER KNEW ME .
Fact is , JESUS said if a man continues NOT IN ME , HE is cast out .
Even when warning his own , he warned them of the hardships they would have to endure
and that those who endured TO THE END would be saved . NOT those who fell away , not those who stopped believing
or never did believe .

 

[Ferris Bueller]

paul warned in more than one place about us having to CONTINUE in Christ .
To continue in the faith . And not to be moved away from it .

And I'm being told I'm boasting if I do that, lol. Paul was very clear to show us that there is NO boast in having faith....

Where then is boasting? It has been excluded. By what kind of law? Of works? No, but by a law of faith. Romans 3:27​

 

[amigo de christo]

And I'm being told I'm boasting if I do that, lol. Paul was very clear to show us that there is NO boast in having faith....

Where then is boasting? It has been excluded. By what kind of law? Of works? No, but by a law of faith. Romans 3:27​

Do as i do , i ignore any insult . I do not concern myself with the opinions of any who say i am trying to save myself
or earn my salvation . Just cause i bring all those reminders Paul gave , JESUS , peter , and others .
As well as the reminders to the seven churches .
Who cares if folks think i am legalistic or etc . It wont stop me from bringing biblcal reminders . We must
behold always , both the goodness and severity of GOD . WE must do as they did . REMIND the people
to CONTINUE in the faith , to the end . THEY DID . AND they were not legalsitic nor boasting in their selves .
SO worry not one bit about what folks say . Just focus on bringing all biblical reminders .

 

[marks]

@marks, I'm not interested in rubbing your nose in it.

How Nice!

Since you keep repeating over and over what you say I've said but that I've not said. That you keep on ad nauseum about how I won't answer your objections to what it is I did not actually say. But no . . . you don't want to rub anyone's nose . . .



But neither do you wish to actually engage with my posts, other than to try to distance yourself from having to answer.

Much love!