What is the promised land to Abraham?

[amadeus]

True believers comprise the Body of Christ, but where in Scripture does it say Jesus lays His head on His body?
Do you lay your head on your body??

Is not Jesus [or is He not to be] the Head of the Body of Christ? Are we, or are we to be, a part of that Body? Who is it that without hands is forming and preparing each part perfectly and putting together, you and me [hopefully] as some of the parts and Jesus as our Head?

"And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,
Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.' Eph 1:22-23

"For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body." Eph 5:23

What happens in Ezekiel 37?

Then again perhaps more to the point:

"Surely I will not come into the tabernacle of my house, nor go up into my bed;
I will not give sleep to mine eyes, or slumber to mine eyelids,
Until I find out a place for the LORD, an habitation for the mighty God of Jacob" Psalm 132:2-4

"For the LORD hath chosen Zion; he hath desired it for his habitation.
This is my rest for ever: here will I dwell; for I have desired it." Psalm 132:13-14

Zion:
!wyc Tsiyown (tsee-yone'); Proper Name Location, Strong #: 6726

Zion = "parched place"

"Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.
The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that living water?
Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle?
Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again:
But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life." John 4:11-14

No more 'parched place' but good ground now able to bring forth what?

"But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold.
Who hath ears to hear, let him hear." Matt 13:8-9

 

[Taken]

step back some yet look forward in hope and faith....the promised land is the Earth made new wherein dwells righteousness.
This current age is passing away and with it, sin and death.

Thanks for your perspective.
The question was about the Promised Land given to Abraham (and His Descendants.)
The entire Earth (Dry Land) was not given as an inheritance to Abraham (and his Descendants).

The Earth was given to all of Mankind for a Habitat and use. Historically, We can see men claiming land, fighting over it, conquering and taking land from others.
* In ancient days, God Established and revealed...Salem ie. Jerusalem as a Holy City, a Temple (House unto God for His Worship), and an "EVERLASTING" THRONE, for a Godly man to Sit as King over mankind, ("WHO" is faithful TO God.)
Historically:
The Land has been corrupted, conquered, defiled.
The City has historically been sacked, burned, conquered, defiled.
The Temple defiled, destroyed.
The "THRONE" whether VISABLE or Not, remains "Gods Established Everlasting Throne".
Jesus IS the "revealed" He WHO SHALL SIT on Gods Everlasting Throne.
* The Precise Location...
* The Precise Geographical Boundaries...
* The Precise Occupants...
* The Precise Name of the Area...
* The Precise Name of the One Seated...
IS ALL REVEALED IN SCRIPUTRE.

Jesus IS He entitled to sit on the Throne, He Being King of kings, Lord of lords.
It is the geographical boundries described in Scripture, IS King and Lord Jesus' KINGDOM.
Occupants of His KINGDOM "are" men of the Earth WHO HAVE BECOME "Born Again", (and Like Jesus, are Entitled, by Promise, to abode in THAT particular identified LAND), with their King and Lord.

The Confines (express geographical location), of Jesus' KINGDOM, LASTS 1,000 Years.
Other LANDS, outside of Jesus' Kingdom, are LANDS NOT PROMISED TO ABRAHAM'S Descendants.
THOSE lands, shall be Occupied BY "MORTALS"... with mortal "kings" ruling over their lands. Mortals, being born, living, dying, over generations, appointing, selecting, being governed by a secession of mortal "kings".

Human men WHO HAVE, already "surpassed" DEATH and PUT ON "IMMORTALITY", will for 1,000 years Occupy the Express Promised Land, in Jesus' KINGDOM, ruled by Lord Jesus' the KING.

A NEW Heaven and NEW Earth, that WILL (after the 1,000 years have expired), Be revealed, encompasses the ENTIRE Earth becoming renewed.
THEN...AFTER NO "MORTALS" exist upon the Earth, shall the KINGDOM on (the entire) EARTH be merged (meaning NO MORE DIVISIONAL BARRIER), be the SAME as Gods glorious Kingdom in Heaven.

As long as there ARE MORTALS "ON EARTH"...
Jesus' KINGDOM is "Expressly" limited LAND for occupancy of "IMMORTALS".

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[prism]

Is not Jesus [or is He not to be] the Head of the Body of Christ? Are we, or are we to be, a part of that Body? Who is it that without hands is forming and preparing each part perfectly and putting together, you and me [hopefully] as some of the parts and Jesus as our Head?

"And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,
Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.' Eph 1:22-23

"For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body." Eph 5:23

What happens in Ezekiel 37?

Then again perhaps more to the point:

"Surely I will not come into the tabernacle of my house, nor go up into my bed;
I will not give sleep to mine eyes, or slumber to mine eyelids,
Until I find out a place for the LORD, an habitation for the mighty God of Jacob" Psalm 132:2-4

"For the LORD hath chosen Zion; he hath desired it for his habitation.
This is my rest for ever: here will I dwell; for I have desired it." Psalm 132:13-14

Zion:
!wyc Tsiyown (tsee-yone'); Proper Name Location, Strong #: 6726

Zion = "parched place"

"Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.
The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that living water?
Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle?
Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again:
But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life." John 4:11-14

No more 'parched place' but good ground now able to bring forth what?

"But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold.
Who hath ears to hear, let him hear." Matt 13:8-9

Please answer my two questions which I already asked...

True, believers comprise the Body of Christ, but where in Scripture does it say Jesus lays His head on His body?
Do you lay your head on your body??

 

[amigo de christo]

And to thy seed , CHRIST JESUS IS THE SEED . LET THE GLORIOUS LORD BE PRAISED .
The whole of the promise given unto the fathers , WAS POINTING RIGHT TO CHRIST .
LET the glorious LORD be praised . HEAVENLY JERUSALEM , MOTHER to all who do believe in Christ .

 

[amadeus]

Please answer my two questions which I already asked...

True, believers comprise the Body of Christ, but where in Scripture does it say Jesus lays His head on His body?
Do you lay your head on your body??

Are you are trying to equate types and shadows with Reality? The body of flesh of a man, yours or mine, is a poor corrupted and corruptible type of the Body of Christ. The Body of Christ, the whole of it includes all of the perfectly formed and fitted parts with Jesus as the Head. Until all of the parts are ready, the son of man, Jesus has no place to lay his head. What is the Reality of the whole of the Body of Christ? What can a man still seeing as through a glass darkly see with regard to the Reality? When and where will we be able to have that "face to face" vision?

 

[prism]

Are you are trying to equate types and shadows with Reality? The body of flesh of a man, yours or mine, is a poor corrupted and corruptible type of the Body of Christ. The Body of Christ, the whole of it includes all of the perfectly formed and fitted parts with Jesus as the Head. Until all of the parts are ready, the son of man, Jesus has no place to lay his head. What is the Reality of the whole of the Body of Christ? What can a man still seeing as through a glass darkly see with regard to the Reality? When and where will we be able to have that "face to face" vision?

Instead of a bunch of metaphysical rambling, how about answering my two questions? For the third time...

True, believers comprise the Body of Christ, but where in Scripture does it say Jesus lays His head on His body?
Do you lay your head on your body??

 

[amadeus]

Instead of a bunch of metaphysical rambling, how about answering my two questions? For the third time...

True, believers comprise the Body of Christ, but where in Scripture does it say Jesus lays His head on His body?
Do you lay your head on your body??

You want to me to speak to you in your language when you have made no effort to understand mine? I did answer those questions although certainly in the manner you wanted me to... Have you set the rules for discussion here? When are you going to answer any of my questions at all?

For me the Word of God is that which is quickened by the Holy Spirit within a person. That which is not is like the scripture Satan quoted to Jesus, dead!

 

[prism]

You want to me to speak to you in your language when you have made no effort to understand mine? I did answer those questions although certainly in the manner you wanted me to... Have you set the rules for discussion here? When are you going to answer any of my questions at all?

For me the Word of God is that which is quickened by the Holy Spirit within a person. That which is not is like the scripture Satan quoted to Jesus, dead!

You used poetic expressions perhaps to answer the second question, but you never answered my first question...

where in Scripture does it say Jesus lays His head on His body?

 

[amadeus]

You used poetic expressions perhaps to answer the second question, but you never answered my first question...

where in Scripture does it say Jesus lays His head on His body?

You seem to have no real interest in understanding what I believe in any case. Have a good journey!

Give God the glory!

 

[prism]

You seem to have no real interest in understanding what I believe in any case. Have a good journey!

Give God the glory!

If it can't be backed up by Scripture, then it is just another of 10,000,000 opinions.
I already perceive that you believe Scripture is NOT the standard to test the spirits.

 

[quietthinker]

Thanks for your perspective.
The question was about the Promised Land given to Abraham (and His Descendants.)
The entire Earth (Dry Land) was not given as an inheritance to Abraham (and his Descendants).

The Earth was given to all of Mankind for a Habitat and use. Historically, We can see men claiming land, fighting over it, conquering and taking land from others.
* In ancient days, God Established and revealed...Salem ie. Jerusalem as a Holy City, a Temple (House unto God for His Worship), and an "EVERLASTING" THRONE, for a Godly man to Sit as King over mankind, ("WHO" is faithful TO God.)
Historically:
The Land has been corrupted, conquered, defiled.
The City has historically been sacked, burned, conquered, defiled.
The Temple defiled, destroyed.
The "THRONE" whether VISABLE or Not, remains "Gods Established Everlasting Throne".
Jesus IS the "revealed" He WHO SHALL SIT on Gods Everlasting Throne.
* The Precise Location...
* The Precise Geographical Boundaries...
* The Precise Occupants...
* The Precise Name of the Area...
* The Precise Name of the One Seated...
IS ALL REVEALED IN SCRIPUTRE.

Jesus IS He entitled to sit on the Throne, He Being King of kings, Lord of lords.
It is the geographical boundries described in Scripture, IS King and Lord Jesus' KINGDOM.
Occupants of His KINGDOM "are" men of the Earth WHO HAVE BECOME "Born Again", (and Like Jesus, are Entitled, by Promise, to abode in THAT particular identified LAND), with their King and Lord.

The Confines (express geographical location), of Jesus' KINGDOM, LASTS 1,000 Years.
Other LANDS, outside of Jesus' Kingdom, are LANDS NOT PROMISED TO ABRAHAM'S Descendants.
THOSE lands, shall be Occupied BY "MORTALS"... with mortal "kings" ruling over their lands. Mortals, being born, living, dying, over generations, appointing, selecting, being governed by a secession of mortal "kings".

Human men WHO HAVE, already "surpassed" DEATH and PUT ON "IMMORTALITY", will for 1,000 years Occupy the Express Promised Land, in Jesus' KINGDOM, ruled by Lord Jesus' the KING.

A NEW Heaven and NEW Earth, that WILL (after the 1,000 years have expired), Be revealed, encompasses the ENTIRE Earth becoming renewed.
THEN...AFTER NO "MORTALS" exist upon the Earth, shall the KINGDOM on (the entire) EARTH be merged (meaning NO MORE DIVISIONAL BARRIER), be the SAME as Gods glorious Kingdom in Heaven.

As long as there ARE MORTALS "ON EARTH"...
Jesus' KINGDOM is "Expressly" limited LAND for occupancy of "IMMORTALS".

Glory to God,
Taken

You have quiet a story there Taken. I have a better one :)
God gave the earth to Adam and his dominion was lost to the enemy because he made a poor choice. He became subject to diminishment and death....relationally and environmentally. The whole order destined to implode.
God promised restoration right there....a deliver....a deliverance from the old order...in every way.

The temporal, now served as a medium for metaphor using the individual, relationships, the nation, the seasons, the natural environment and its produce....and so scripture uses these to deliver the message...eg, parables, Old Testament Prophets, the history of Jacob, the history of his children ie, Israel....of the rebellious and the faithful, pagan nations etc etc..... to communicate with any who would hear.

This tired poisoned, broken old Earth will see its end in flaming fire and from its ashes God will create a new Heavens and and a new Earth wherein dwells righteousness.
Sin, sinners and all of man's works with anything that causes a lie, will be gone forever, destroyed in the fires which cleanse the Earth.

The redeemed will find their home on the new Earth where the greatest ambitions and aspirations will find their fulfilment.

 

[quietthinker]

Queitthinker if your suggesting that this earth isn’t destroyed then I’ll have to say it’s a sad day when a person disputes the written word. For the promise was for an everlasting promise. In revelation it is said we go to a new Heaven and earth for the old one had passed away. The apostle even spoke of the earth being completely destroyed. I’m just wondering do you believe an eternal punishment in the lake of Fire?

Daniel, see my reply to Taken in post #31 :)

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?
18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: (Rom 11:11, 15, 18, 21, 25, 26)

And one more for the road...

22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. (Joh 4:22)

We have not replaced Israel.

I am of a Jewish Sir name. I do despise when people say to me, 'We' have not replaced Israel ? and then on the other hand also may demand that I am a Jew and some even demand that I am not a Christian but a Jew ? remember but they say 'We' have not replaced Israel ? looking at me ! so what are they doing ? they are idolising a people and then dismissing who they as such idolise, in me. so they are idolising such as me but not me who stands before them ?

Well well I have to say. Who were the Disciples fool ! they were the first Christians and from that point on the only worthy people of God in fact ! they were all Jews and they created Christianity ! the story about the Gentiles is that they came in and the two became as one in fact who abided in the our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ ! that's the Key bro.
They who are outside are not worthy of God regardless in fact.
Their is only one way bro and not two.
So anyone claiming to be a Jew today is not worthy of God for a start and they never were, even 2000 years ago they fell short being OT Jews, bar for the truly worthy of the name Israel in fact.
So when some dolt makes claims for me being a Jew they are exposing themselves as who they truly are of Satan in fact. they are conjuring up a race theory the poor bastards, but the fact is that the Jews were not a Race but one Tribe in fact among many Semitic Tribes, so the Race point is a Joke and the claims of salvation is of the Jews is just ignorance on their part. the Jews never were about Salvation, Jesus is Salvation in fact ! the Jews could not save themselves as they never did, they needed to aspire to God always and when they did not them they failed all through their history because they turned their backs on God and when Jesus Christ came he is Salvation ! now when they rejected him, them Jews cut themselves off, but for the true worthy Israelites who such a one is a Servant of God ? worthy and it's only such that came to Jesus in fact, because they had regards to the truth of the OT and were not just dogs following along for the sake of keeping up appearances like the majority of the Jews who are just tagging along with the show, just like most people who claim to be Christians do ? you must be truly born again to become a Israelite (Servant of God).
So when Jesus came he came for his own People ? and all they who serve him are worthy. and all who don't are not, remember the ones who will say Lord Lord ! and Jesus will say that he never knew you ? being Jewish is not Salvation.
One must abide in the Vine to bear fruit in Jesus.

To fools Socialist and Nazis it's all about Race, to God it's all about all being united under the one roof Grace, such has no place for such Race issue nonsense leading people. it's God who is leading the way, not Man or a so called Race, such is just so stupid and pathetic, but hey the carnal clearly fall for such rubbish.

 

[prism]

I am of a Jewish Sir name. I do despise when people say to me, 'We' have not replaced Israel ? and then on the other hand also may demand that I am a Jew and some even demand that I am not a Christian but a Jew ? remember but they say 'We' have not replaced Israel ? looking at me ! so what are they doing ? they are idolising a people and then dismissing who they as such idolise, in me. so they are idolising such as me but not me who stands before them ?

Ephesians 2:15 (NASB) by abolishing in His flesh the enmity, which is the Law of commandments contained in ordinances, so that in Himself He might make the two into one new man, thus establishing peace,

Well well I have to say. Who were the Disciples fool ! they were the first Christians and from that point on the only worthy people of God in fact ! they were all Jews and they created Christianity ! the story about the Gentiles is that they came in and the two became as one in fact who abided in the our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ ! that's the Key bro.
They who are outside are not worthy of God regardless in fact.
Their is only one way bro and not two.

There one day be one new man, not two; but until then God is not finished with HIS PEOPLE. He will bring them back to Himself and I believe He will use Jacob's Trouble to accomplish His purpose.

So anyone claiming to be a Jew today is not worthy of God for a start and they never were, even 2000 years ago they fell short being OT Jews, bar for the truly worthy of the name Israel in fact.

Romans 11:11 (NASB) I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they? May it never be! But by their transgression salvation has come to the Gentiles, to make them jealous.

So when some dolt makes claims for me being a Jew they are exposing themselves as who they truly are of Satan in fact. they are conjuring up a race theory the poor bastards, but the fact is that the Jews were not a Race but one Tribe in fact among many Semitic Tribes, so the Race point is a Joke and the claims of salvation is of the Jews is just ignorance on their part.

Yes, even Jews can be antisemitic. Nothing new here.

the Jews never were about Salvation, Jesus is Salvation in fact !

True!...and Jesus was a Jew!!

the Jews could not save themselves as they never did, they needed to aspire to God always and when they did not them they failed all through their history because they turned their backs on God and when Jesus Christ came he is Salvation ! now when they rejected him, them Jews cut themselves off, but for the true worthy Israelites who such a one is a Servant of God ? worthy and it's only such that came to Jesus in fact, because they had regards to the truth of the OT and were not just dogs following along for the sake of keeping up appearances like the majority of the Jews who are just tagging along with the show, just like most people who claim to be Christians do ?

Confused ramblings...sorry.

you must be truly born again to become a Israelite

Scripture please.

So when Jesus came he came for his own People ? and all they who serve him are worthy. and all who don't are not, remember the ones who will say Lord Lord ! and Jesus will say that he never knew you ? being Jewish is not Salvation.
One must abide in the Vine to bear fruit in Jesus.

No one is worthy, you should know that. Both Jew and Gentile are shut up under sin.
The ones in MT 7 saying "Lord, Lord" appealed to their works something a born again Christian would not do.

To fools Socialist and Nazis it's all about Race, to God it's all about all being united under the one roof Grace, such has no place for such Race issue nonsense leading people. it's God who is leading the way, not Man or a so called Race, such is just so stupid and pathetic, but hey the carnal clearly fall for such rubbish.

Eternally it is not about race, but in temporal terms God is not finished with His people the Jews. To cast off God's promises given to the natural line of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is no better that that natural line who reject those same promises, nor is it any better than the Nazis who threw those same people in the ovens.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Ephesians 2:15 (NASB) by abolishing in His flesh the enmity, which is the Law of commandments contained in ordinances, so that in Himself He might make the two into one new man, thus establishing peace,



There one day be one new man, not two; but until then God is not finished with HIS PEOPLE. He will bring them back to Himself and I believe He will use Jacob's Trouble to accomplish His purpose.



Romans 11:11 (NASB) I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they? May it never be! But by their transgression salvation has come to the Gentiles, to make them jealous.


Yes, even Jews can be antisemitic. Nothing new here.


True!...and Jesus was a Jew!!


Confused ramblings...sorry.

Scripture please.

No one is worthy, you should know that. Both Jew and Gentile are shut up under sin.
The ones in MT 7 saying "Lord, Lord" appealed to their works something a born again Christian would not do.

Eternally it is not about race, but in temporal terms God is not finished with His people the Jews. To cast off God's promises given to the natural line of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is no better that that natural line who reject those same promises, nor is it any better than the Nazis who threw those same people in the ovens.

Show me one Jew today, fact is not one exist in fact in blood line, they are all of mixed blood with Gentiles, so who are they ? nothing !
Show me the percentage of the blood line then ? well that again is nonsense as well because it you bother to look into such you will find it's all nonsense, take two they make a third, now only on this level do we know who all the related are on both sides are from ? now do you want to go on with over 2000 years of generations ? how many generations is that not to mention the reality's of that details. fact is when one comprehends the reality of such you will know that such is insanity and idiot only a fool would make such claims that they are a Jew by blood. one would be in for a nasty surprise if they only knew the facts. as to 2000 years ago it was over in fact. and only a Satanist would make such claims of Jews being Gods people in fact. so stop idolising nonsense ! fact is you must be born again in fact and their is no in through the back door bro.
No worthy Christian would be making claims of Jews in any form, because it's all clearly nonsense and anyone who does is clearly not a truly born again Christian. because such who makes such claims is looking for something because they have not been found, they do not know Jesus is the Christ in fact and that's why the nonsense of deceptions takes flight.
Fact is if one does not have the Holy Spirit you are lost regardless, such a one is just the blind leading the blind.

God is not finished with Israel in fact as we are a work in progress bro in fact. truly born again Christians are in fact Israel bro, Saved ! they do not need to be found ? they are not lost ! they are in the Kingdom of God now ! one needs for nothing in this regards and their is nothing more to it, because they are the Chosen.

Anti-Semitic is nonsense word created as a deception in fact, around 90% of Semitic people are Islamic faith in fact, so the reality of the word is stupid nonsense, not to mention from the Christian point of view we do not struggle against flesh and blood, such has nothing at all to do with Race ! it's about the Holy Spirit and no one has the Holy Spirit but truly born again Christians in fact as all the rest are under delusions, they make up nothing but nonsense because they are lost.
Anyone who is jealous is an idiot and a fool regardless.
The trouble is caused by Satanist for they are lost.

It comes down to, Oh ye of little faith. I have come across many such people who are looking forward to the Hellfire that is to come, not to mention they claim that they will be raptured out beforehand, they work to create the troubles. but such as they will reap what they have sown, two wrongs do not make a right.

 

[Taken]

You have quiet a story there Taken. I have a better one :)
God gave the earth to Adam and his dominion was lost to the enemy because he made a poor choice. He became subject to diminishment and death....relationally and environmentally. The whole order destined to implode.
God promised restoration right there....a deliver....a deliverance from the old order...in every way.

The temporal, now served as a medium for metaphor using the individual, relationships, the nation, the seasons, the natural environment and its produce....and so scripture uses these to deliver the message...eg, parables, Old Testament Prophets, the history of Jacob, the history of his children ie, Israel....of the rebellious and the faithful, pagan nations etc etc..... to communicate with any who would hear.

This tired poisoned, broken old Earth will see its end in flaming fire and from its ashes God will create a new Heavens and and a new Earth wherein dwells righteousness.
Sin, sinners and all of man's works with anything that causes a lie, will be gone forever, destroyed in the fires which cleanse the Earth.

The redeemed will find their home on the new Earth where the greatest ambitions and aspirations will find their fulfilment.

Thanks for your brief. Earth is dry land. The very elements from which mankind was formed, mans habit, mans use for good, and resting place of natural physical dead body's of men.
On topic;
Particular Lands were expressly (by God) given to Abraham, and his faithful descendants.
Abram / Abraham's faithful descendants are;
* Hebrews and Tribesmen who were under Mosaic Law and Kept the Law until their physical death. (Before Jesus' arrival on earth)
* Hebrews and Tribesmen who continue to remain under Mosaic Law and Keep the Law unto their physical death. (After Jesus' arrival on earth.)
* Hebrews and Tribesmen and Gentiles born after Gods Word's (Jesus') arrival on earth, WHO accept Jesus' fufulliment of the Law, and WHO accept Jesus' "sin" Offering of His Blood, once and forever for Forgiveness of All their sins. ( Before their natural physical death ).
* The LAND (specific geographical location,
Gen 15:
[18] In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:

Noting; a deeper study.
The Division God established.
Abram renamed Abraham.
* Abram's Seed (natural stock sperm descendants, via Ishmael, occupy much of the present promised land.
* Abraham's Seed (natural stock sperm descendants), via Isaac & Jacob (ie. Israel), occupy portions of the promised land.
* Jesus took upon himself, AS DO EVERY born again man, the SEED of ABRAHAM...

Matt 1
[1] The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

Luke 1
[55] As he spake to our fathers, to Abraham, and to his seed for ever.
[73] The oath which he sware to our father Abraham,

Gal 3:
[7] Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.

Gal 3:
[16] Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

Gal 3:
[29] And IF ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Jesus' shall Return once again From Heaven to Earth... this time "with Power", (All might) authority, (Gods Truth) Position, (King of kings, Lord of lords), and a Kingdom (specific Land promised Abram /Abraham's faithful descendants (who also Have Gods SEED, which is Christ (the seed of God), ie born again), whereby Jesus "lawfully" sit in Gods established "ever lasting Throne",
2 Sam 7:17
Ps 93:2
2 Pet 1:11
... Jesus is Revealed for all to See, (as He again returns in the Likeness as a man)...but knowing He IS the Spiritual King...in His Earthly Kingdom, (occupying the Land Promised to Abraham and his faithful descendants)...ON Earth over MORTAL kings...Lord over MORTAL lords.
FOR, 1,000 years.
....the Lesson is: God is Just. God provides every option for mankind to hear, learn, trust, believe, and willingly choose to forever be yoked with God ... or not.
....during the 1,000 year reign...mortals will be born, live, hear, die. Satan and his cohorts are completely absent from the earths surface and influence over men... and expressly have ONLY the influence of Gods TRUTH...(and mankind himself)
This is an express time; of NO EXCUSES... (ie the Devils trickery and cunningness, made me do it)...
The 1,000 year ending, Gods Angel is sent forth speaking the Word of God to the entire World,
( Rev 14:6)
After the Angel speaks the Word of God, a warning to all, of the consequence to reject His Word.
(Rev 14:9...Rev 14:10)

Followed by Gods Cycle (division and absolute Separation) of the remaining Faithful from the remaining Unfaithful.
(Rev 14: 15, 17, 18, 19)

Glory to God, Faithful and True,
Taken

 

[prism]

Show me one Jew today, fact is not one exist in fact in blood line, they are all of mixed blood with Gentiles, so who are they ? nothing !

Hitler would have had no problem showing you who a Jew was, besides Jesus had a mixed bloodline but that didn’t stop him from being Jewish.
I suppose Jesus is nothing in your twisted way of thinking.

 

[Daniel Veler]

Daniel, see my reply to Taken in post #31 :)

Sorry about that. It’s just I read others who pick and chose to build their doctrines ignoring God’s word. Not you but others.

 

[Jay Ross]

Hello

Since Abraham was never promised any ownership or possession of land in Canaan, the answer to this question is obviously "NONE."

However, God did promise Abraham the whole earth that God had created before it was corrupted, and would be restored that He, God, would show Abraham before he or his descendants would inherit it from God.

The earth that God intends to show us is a way of living in relationship with Him on this presently corrupted earth.

Desiring to still have ownership of "land" which God had allowed possession of for a period of time to confirm to Abraham's descendants that they would inherit the whole earth in due time, means that many people are missing the boat so to speak, in that their focus is on self and not an establishing an unbreakable relationship with God.

Shalom

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Hitler would have had no problem showing you who a Jew was, besides Jesus had a mixed bloodline but that didn’t stop him from being Jewish.
I suppose Jesus is nothing in your twisted way of thinking.

Hitler was a Jew ! in fact he was controlled by the Zionist Jews, not to mention the fact that without Hitler the Jews would of never got the Land that they blasphemy call Israel !
Politically The Land was given in general for a place for the poor Jews so that they would not be persecuted, Hitler kicked it all off as instructed by his so called Zionist masters and Lord Rothschild's, that was what Lord Rothschild's WW2 was all about, to get the people back in the Land, it was his work he even said so, it was his baby, his creation.
Hitler is related to the Rothschild's as well, Hitler had not a hope in hell of becoming the Leader of Germany without the help of Lord Rothschild's organisations in fact.
It was the Zionist and Co who under mined Germany for a start and brought on the Great depression and then financed Hitler the money and all in fact to power up, not to mention they demanded 6 million Jews to be killed, why ! because them Jews were the biggest threat to the so called Zionist in fact, if you do your homework you will find that 90% of the Jews in Germany despised the so called Zionist. Not to mention Hitler got rid of all the Jewish print Media all but for the Zionist ones ! now why was that one may ask ? well because the so called Zionist were not worthy of being truly related to being inspired by the OT and Holy Moses as that is not their bag, they are the Golden Calf Mob ! they are dominated by the Talmud whore, that if you ever bothered to study it you would find it the most racial prejudice load of deranged Satanic dribble ever in the history of the world by far, even much worse that anything that the Nazis claimed, yet that shit is not called out on ! no wonder such as they created Islam and worked to bastardised all Christians denominations.
This world is under delusions ! as Jesus said that he was not of this world. Jesus was not under any delusions, he clearly called them out ! just as did St Stephen and what did Jesus say about such people ? That this Mob are of their Father of Lies and was a Murderer from the beginning !

I am not fighting flesh and blood bro ! because to the truly born again we know what the real enemy is in fact. and nothing to do with some stupid race theory.