The more I read arguments over how to say it, I see more and more how our finite/human language isn't perfect enough to describe Jesus/God.
If we state it as saying "Jesus is God" this conveys PART of the meaning that is lost by stating it as "Jesus is God's Word or Authority of Law/Justice" that makes it sound like Jesus is just a manifestation of PART of God and not fully one with ALL of God.
But saying "Jesus is God" sounds confusing because Jesus as the Son is NOT perfectly interchangeable with God as the Father
In ALL CONTEXTS.
@Ronald Nolette all I know is that I agree there is only one God, so when we talk about God this must be the same.
And Jesus is this ONE God connecting with man. Both "God in man" and "God's WORD or Law/Justice embodied in man" describe Jesus.
But saying it one way can confuse and alienate people who say it the other way, and vice versa.
Still only ONE God, and only ONE Jesus as the only Mediator between man and God.
These same arguments that people keep having merely remind me our language is not perfect, and when we try to explain it, it can just cause more confusion.
Sorry about this.
I just agree to understand that we share the same faith in Christ Jesus, and our limited human language and perception fails to do justice and capture the full nature of God and the relationship with God through Jesus.
We can go in circles, and it still doesn't clarify for everyone who relates to the other ways of saying it, and reads the other ways as not accurate.
The nature of God and Jesus is still what it is, even if we fail to explain it perfectly to each other.
It is funny to me how some explanations work for some people and not others!
I can totally relate to the Parable using Govt.
That there are 3 authorities Judicial Legislative Executive but only 1 Govt not 3.
Some people cannot stand or get that way of explaining how the three are one inseparable.
Others totally pick it apart to show it isn't the same as explaining God/Jesus/Holy Spirit.
One person tried to explain how H2O manifests as Vapor, Liquid and Ice. But other people pick that apart as well. Liquid is not a bridge between solid and gas but just another form. Etc.
No finite explanation is going to be perfect since God's true nature is infinite and beyond us.
I am just grateful we can even agree on
God the Father, Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
Some people don't even have that much in common.
At least I can tell we share faith in Christ.
One God we connect to and receive through knowing and receiving Jesus.
You remind me to be thankful for the blessings of faith we do have.
Clearly we rely on that where our words and ways of explaining can totally fail and leave us unable to fully reconcile.
I also could not fully resolve things with my mother and rely on faith in God to speak with her in her own ways to figure out the rest!
Since there is only ONE Mediator between God and man, then this still has to be through Jesus. Even if we describe things in different ways, that process of reconciling and receiving God's truth has to be through Christ by definition.