God changed Seventh Day Sabbath Worship to First Day of the Week

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GerhardEbersoehn

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The biggest mention of the law in the NT is all the scriptures that state that Christians have died to the law, which was only meant for the ungodly - not for the righteous - and that the law was only a schoolmaster in charge of us until faith and Jesus came, so now that faith has come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster, that the law was a yoke of burden, and the covenant from mount Sinai is slavery. and the Decalogue is the letter that kills, and the ministry of death, contrasted to the ministry of the spirit in the new covenant, that brings life.

AGAIN : RUBBISH EASY TALK
 

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2Co 3:11 For if that which is DONE AWAY was glorious , much MORE that which remaineth is glorious...
does not speak of different and successive covenants but of the only ever New Covenant of God's Grace and Love that was able to shed that which grew old and was disappearing -- the Eternal Covenant that had reached end-purpose and meaning IN CHRIST AND WAS TO BE CONTINUED IN ITS END-PURPUSE ITSELF the Eternal NEW Covenant of God in "Christ the all in ALL fulfilling Fullness of God given to the Church as HEAD."

Mark well that Christ is The End and The All, in ALL and every one, from the Old to ALL and every one of New Testament believers in Jesus Christ WITHOUT DISTINCTION.
 
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The so called finished work of Christ; does that excuse disobedience?
That owl must have seen todd white , francis chan , the pope and copeland leading our churches right to perdition .
Look closely at its eyes and its crooked neck . It has to be thinking , AND the churches believe what these teach .
 

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1Ti 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a RIGHTEOUS man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for THE UNGODLY and for SINNERS , for UNHOLY and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
The day you find no unrighteous, no lawless, no disobedient and no ungodly SINNER, that day come try your luck again with your fake story that God's Law by which every man, you included, is an ungodly sinner, had come to an end and disappeared.
 

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Do I also have to spend time proving that the first covenant referred to there, was the first covenant given to Israel, and not the first covenant ever given?

God has had one everlasting everlastingly NEW Covenant once and for all which had undergone and outlived several ministrations or dispensations, each one although passing, eternally PREDESTINED and Divine, and, "glorious".
 

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@GerhardEbersoehn,

You seem to have a good command of the English Language [although at times it is difficult to follow you, at least for me as English is my second language]. Can you expound and give a better understanding on Matthew 28:1 than what is already laid out in the OP?

Thanks.
 
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To man Be The Glory if only the linguist can understand God's Word. Get wise to your elitism.

I admit I belong to an elite group of people called "The children of God." For only a child of God can discern Matthew 28:1 as per 1 Corinthians 2:14-15.

To God Be The Glory
 

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The tables of the covenant are indeed the ten commandments. They are God's promise of what he will do in the hearts of men if they draw nigh unto Him. The old covenant is the words of the children of Israel claiming to be able to keep the commandments without a heart connection to Him.

O that there were such an heart in them, that they would fear me, and keep all my commandments always, that it might be well with them, and with their children for ever! (Deuteronomy 5:29)

The reference to old and new covenants is so abused today as to be nearly meaningless. This is probably why the Bible refers to the "everlasting covenant."

And I will make an everlasting covenant with them: I will never stop doing good for them. I will put a desire in their hearts to worship me, and they will never leave me. (Jeremiah 32:40)


Beautiful, true, and inspiring.
Thank God for your post amidst such disrespect for God and his Word as seen in this thread.
 

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the italicized word "day" is not in the original manuscripts.

<<the italicized word "day" is not in the original manuscripts>>, correct, and for good reason, it (the italicized word "day") is IMPLIED in the original manuscripts' single word the Substantive (Noun) 'Sabba'tohn'. Being - Genitive, it means the complete concept, "the Sabbath/Rest-Day-OF-the-week" / being Ablative, it means the complete concept, "the Rest-Day-OF-/IN-the-week-End" (KJV), one word for more than one CONCEPT making up "the weekly-Sabbath-Day" of the first century Greek speaking Christian "nations" including the Hebrew-speaking nation in a non-Hebrew speaking world or society.
A name starts from popular or demographic impression, develops into coloquial usage and semantic phenomenon, and ends a term or word characterising something or somebody belonging to the society, its period, geogarphy, culture, language --- and religion.
 
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A name starts from popular or demographic impression, develops into coloquial usage and semantic phenomenon, and ends a term or word characterising something or somebody belonging to the society, its period, geogarphy, culture, language --- and religion.

Therefore according to the above we do not have a Bible because:
1) We were never in Rome, so the epistle to the Romans is not for us.
2) We were never in Ephesus, so the epistle to the Ephesians is not for us.
3) We were never in Corinth so the epistles 1 and 2 Corinthians are not for us.
And so on... and so on... and so on.

Do you get my drift?

To God Be The Glory
 

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What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, “You shall not covet.”
(Romans 7:7)​

clearly when Paul writes the words "the law" in scripture, what he means includes the decalogue. here it is from the decalogue that he gives an example of what he means by "the law" -- absolutely nowhere in scripture is 'the law' spoken of as broken into parts - that's a purely human imagination & invention. it is an whole. if we are under the law we are under all of the law; if we are not under the law we are not under any of the law - anyone who breaks the least commandment of the law is guilty of all of the law ((James 2:10)).
the law is the law and "the law is not of faith" ((Galatians 3:12)) -- according to Romans 7 clearly that includes the 10 commandments; they are not of faith and "whatever is not of faith is sin" ((Romans 14:23)). is the the law sin? obviously not. but trying to put Christians under the law? including the decalogue? that is blaspheming the gospel, making Christ of no effect ((Galatians 5:4)).


clearly we as Christians are not under the law.
the law was a marriage contract with the nation Israel. we are not Israel.
so clearly all of you who say we are under the decalogue are preaching contrary to the word of God, and it is not by the Holy Spirit that you speak.
 
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God has had one everlasting everlastingly NEW Covenant once and for all which had undergone and outlived several ministrations or dispensations, each one although passing, eternally PREDESTINED and Divine, and, "glorious".
Try reading Jeremiah 31, Hebrews 8 and 9, which refutes your claim.

Hebrews says this new covenant with the houses of Israel and Judah, is A BETTER COVENANT FOUNDED ON BETTER PROMISES- it’s not an old covenant recycled.

Scripture says : 1. the first covenant with Israel given on mount Sinai, was faulty, and 2. The new one is better, with better promises.

You can’t change facts, sorry.

Baruch HaShem HaMaschiach Yehoshua
 
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The day you find no unrighteous, no lawless, no disobedient and no ungodly SINNER, that day come try your luck again with your fake story that God's Law by which every man, you included, is an ungodly sinner, had come to an end and disappeared.

You obviously miss the whole point that Christians are righteous in Gods eyes, without doing any works of the law of Moses.

Christians are not ungodly, not manslayers, not (unrepentant) sinners - are none of the things Paul says THE LAW applies to - nor apparently have you understood that Christians have died to the law, by being married to Jesus, and because we have Gods spirit indwelling us. <—- Paul said all these things.

The law was intended for the carnal nation of Israel, who did not have the indwelling Holy Spirit in them, and it was deliberately harsh and faulty, and purposely a burden to them , and brought death.

Having to keep 613 statutes, commands, and ordinances down to the last comma and period, to earn righteousness by keeping ALL of it, was intended to be a yoke of burden, as a huge contrast with righteousness by faith and repentance, apart from the works of the law of Moses, in the new covenant. .

Old covenant righteousness:
Deu 6:24 And the LORD commanded us to do all these statutes, to fear the LORD our God, for our good always, that he might preserve us alive, as it is at this day.

Deu 6:25 And it shall be our righteousness, if we observe to do all these commandments before the LORD our God, as he hath commanded us.

New covenant justification (righteousness):
Act 13:38 Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins:

Act 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.


Shalom Aleichem

Not even a <part> - wishful

This absolutely refutes your claim that the law has not ended for Christians:

Rom 10:1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.

Rom 10:2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.

Rom 10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

Rom 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

We are now declared righteous apart from the law of Moses.