Wrangler
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the apostles bound all Christians to faith in the most holy trinity
LOL. The trinity - the word and the doctrine - is not in the Bible.
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the apostles bound all Christians to faith in the most holy trinity
You were created by angels? Oh my! How utterly outrageous!Yes I do, and there are two strong contenders: the angels and/or the use of the majesty expression -plurality, or overwhelming dominance.
The former is self-explanatory and the latter means that God Almighty (singular) uses a plural emphasis to emphasized his dominance and overwhelming power in creation. An easy example today would be a King or Queen stating the plurality 'we' when they embark or announce something of importance to their people. This majesty expression was a common expression with the Hebrews and it has been imported into the Western culture thousands of years ago. It is however not a common expression today. And we must read scripture in context in the times it was spoken or written.
So in Genesis 1:26 And God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness.” (KJV)
Again with more explanation...
Elohim and Adonim, are Hebrew words for God, and occur in the plural. If this literally meant a plurality of persons, it would be translated “Gods.” But the Hebrews/Judahites, being truly monotheistic and thoroughly familiar with the idioms of their own language, have never understood the use of the plural to indicate a plurality of persons within the one God. This use of the plural is for amplification, and is called a “plural of majesty” or a “plural of emphasis,” and is used for intensification. Many Hebrew scholars identify this use of “us” as the use of the plural of majesty or plural of emphasis. This is what I believe.
And from another person concerning the plural of majesty, clearly attested to in writing from royalty through the ages.
Hyndman writes:
"The true explanation of this verse is to be found in the practice which has prevailed in all nations with which we are acquainted, of persons speaking of themselves in the plural number. “Given at our palace,” “It is our pleasure,” are common expressions of kings in their proclamations "
So are we amused yet?
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LOL. The trinity - the word and the doctrine - is not in the Bible.
You were created by angels? Oh my!
Didn't Jesus say, God is a Spirit? (John 4:24) So the {US} in Genesis includes the angels, since angels are in God's Form.
"Are they not all Spirits for holy service, sent out to minister for those who are going to inherit salvation? (Hebrews 1:14)
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There you go folks. They believe they were created by IMPERFECT angels! Guess the angels made some mistakes!Didn't Jesus say, God is a Spirit? (John 4:24) So the {US} in Genesis includes the angels, since angels are in God's Form.
"Are they not all Spirits for holy service, sent out to minister for those who are going to inherit salvation? (Hebrews 1:14)
You're welcome...
There you go folks. They believe they were created by IMPERFECT angels! Guess the angels made some mistakes!
Col 1 By Jesus all things were created.
Col 1 By Jesus all things were created.Aren't angels called sons of the true God?
Genesis 6:2
the sons of the true God began to notice that the daughters of men were beautiful. So they began taking as wives all whom they chose.
Job 1:6
Now the day came when the sons of the true God entered to take their station before Jehovah, and Satan also entered among them.
Job 2:1
Afterward the day came when the sons of the true God entered to take their station before Jehovah, and Satan also entered among them to take his station before Jehovah.
What does the make Jesus? Didn't Jesus claim that his Father was God?
Even the NWT says Jesus is God and Hell fire is eternal!
You forgot to add another one to the trinity. (His Angels)
And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled nor was a place found for them any longer in heaven. So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him.
Col 1 By Jesus all things were created!Angels also were created in God's image. Col 1:15 states about Jesus Christ that "He is the image of the invisible God, the Firstborn of All Creation;"
That's why you think Jesus is God. All angels are in the image of the invisible God. They are Spirits. It's a novice mistake.
figure of speech
God’s angels that Michael leads
Please stop with your sheer ignorance and childish behaviour. Are you always this argumentive who loves to add words in for other people. You are just embarrassing yourself.You were created by angels? Oh my! How utterly outrageous!
Figurative and symbolic are common terms used by unbelievers to say God is wrong. We see it all the time with Kingdom Hall victims.American Standard Version
I and the Father are one. (John 10:30) Seems to be figurative speech also.
So now you're denying that Gen 1:26 is referring to angels? Make up your mind.Please stop with your sheer ignorance and childish behaviour. Are you always this argumentive who loves to add words in for other people. You are just embarrassing yourself.
No, we might have an image as the angels, as the angels have an image of the Creator, as we have an image of the Creator. Figure it out if you have a brain. Let me know if you need some assistance understanding this simple concept.
If you continue with another stupid and degrading reply, I will not be too kind with my words głupi człowiek!
Figurative and symbolic are common terms used by unbelievers to say God is wrong. We see it all the time with Kingdom Hall victims.