I happen to have the idea that there will be a pre-trib rapture. I also think that Israel is a distinct nation chosen by God, and that God will continue to fulfill His promises to Jacob's children.
I know a number of people who are not pre-trib in their understanding of when the rapture will occur, and who also see in some fashion that the Church is now Israel.
Is there anyone who sees Israel and the Church separately as I do, and who is not pre-trib?
Much love!
YES.
It hangs on Knowledge of WHAT one believes...
Many of ISRAEL, (tribesmen descendants) believe IN God...but Not Jesus is their Christ Messiah.
A Converted man...has VOWED his heartful belief, In God, In Christ Jesus...
Been forgiven for having HAD disbelief...
Laid down their life, received soul salvation, had their spirit quickened...
Simply Waiting FOR resurrection....
And Yes...agree. They NOT being subject to Wrath, THEY SHALL be RAISE above the face of the Earth, to the Clouds ( same as Saved Noah was raise above the face of the Earth in an ark above the mountain tops / where uh...clouds are! )
Israel believing in God, but not Jesus is the Christ....get the first dose of wrath...SEALS... Whose wrath? The Lambs.
Why? Disbelief.
Israel also is ministered to:
First in Jerusalem, two witnesses.
Then told to flee Jerusalem...to Mt. zion.
Why? Satan taking over, looking to devour.
On Mt. Zion...12,000 of every tribe and A Lamb, there ministering, Jews to Jews speaking the Word of God IN Christ Jesus.
Many in Jerusalem and Mt Zion are Killed...
BUT SAVED.
Their saved souls rise to heaven...their body's raised at the last Trump....after the 1,000 year reign.
There is one Peep...from one Angel, for all the rest of the World to Hear the Word of God, between "trumps and bowls"... to call on the Lord, become "last change" Saved, and their body killed, their soul and spirit risen up to heaven....and they also wait till after the 1,000 years reign to be bodily risen.
...there is no saving during the Wrath of God, "bowls, vials"... it's a pretty rough and hard time....death, death, death.
Glory to God,
Taken