Covid-19 is not a hoax (it's way worse than the flu)

[An Apologetic Sheepdog]

So what makes you believe they are creating a smoke screen?

Please understand I am going to be deliberately vague on this but decades of real world SME level experience in military use of NBC (Instructor and developer & tester with the USACMLS), filtration ( in all forms), live agent testing (COBRA facility) and other related areas in civilian Engineering. Nothing I can post a link to or go into specific detail on. My "opinion" is a little more than a "layman's perspective".

What makes this pandemic different to any other in history?

Based on the above ( which I concede that due to my own restrictions is grounds to dismiss it entirely but that's fine if anyone does)- when I am being fed information I know factually to be deliberately incorrect- that make it different.

In layman's terms just to name a few:

Legitimate treatments are being suppressed

Numbers are being manipulated

Professionals are being threatened for voicing legitimate information they have expertise in

The "recommended actions" do not address the problems but are a cause of others. (the masks simply do not and never have worked and never will).

That said- this is a REAL agent (novel virus) so this is not a "hoax" in that sense and it has a potential for being lethal (it will kill) but that's about where the known facts end and the games begin.

 

[Curtis]

Saw this on TV last night, an ex-Anti-vaxxer, a person who once believed the countless conspiracy theories about covid, a 42 yo mother learnt the hard way, she caught Covid-19 very badly, to the point where she struggled to breathe and is now warning others of the dangers.

The CDC admits the survival is 99,5%.

Unlike the flu, 80% of the adults can’t even tell they have it, instead of a cold - their symptoms are so mild.

Unlike the flu, the SARS-COV-2 virus does not attack healthy children at all.

It is not worse than the flu virus.

 

[Enoch111]

it's still a real pandemic

When the death rate from a disease is 0.1% or much less, it is definitely NOT a pandemic. The death statistics were over-inflated and all the bogus computer models generated by the Imperial College were found to to simple fear-mongering.

The real danger is the bogus vaccines themselves. There has never been any vaccine that has caused so many deaths in such a short time as these experimental bioweapons. And ABSOLUTELY NO ONE has given full disclosure according to the Nuremberg Code. Had each victim been told up front that there was a very serious risk of dying through any of those vaccines, no one would have taken them.

So deception was used at every stage, from the manufacture and testing to the jab. When there is deliberate deception, disinformation, and misinformation from the highest level of government and public health authorities, that is PROOF of a conspiracy. Anthony Fauci was caught lying about everything, and he is still a free man when he should be behind bars.

 

[APAK]

Since my father-in-law contracted COVID, he can't take care of himself properly. He needs almost constant supervision. The disease seems to have aggravated his early-onset dementia terribly.

Not to sound arrogant, although I seek honest truth here. Lots of people say this and that....and I'm not convinced at all that your father-in-law has this so-called COVID virus, say based on a fake nPCR test that does not test for any virus at all. Is it based on an expert opinion or real scientific study?

You know no lab or doctor in the world has isolated or defined this COVID-19 technically, or under scientific means as of yet? They cannot describe its complete genome or entire genetic sequence!! It is way short of a complete virus genome by many, many millions of pairs! It make you wonder why not.

When several prominent Universities were provided several thousand of samples of genetic material that were labelled COVID-19 they all ended being a strain of the current season's influenza!!...it should make folks take a step back.....

APAK

 

[Rita]

I have heard that the vaccines take a few weeks to take full effect.

Maybe @Rita can confirm.

Not sure I can Josho, I don’t work in a hospital. However many of our care home staff have been vaccinated but still got covid, and some have been quite ill but recovered. Along with the residents that have recently got covid, all survived. Unlike the previous outbreak when the vaccinations had not had chance to work. You are not fully covered with the vaccine until your 14 days after your second dose, but there is some cover after the first one ( but once again it is after 14 days ) ……..Over here they are saying that a vast majority of those in hospital are unvaccinated, which means some are vaccinated.
Rita

 

[BarneyFife]

Not to sound arrogant, although I seek honest truth here. Lots of people say this and that....and I'm not convinced at all that your father-in-law has this so-called COVID virus, say based on a fake nPCR test that does not test for any virus at all. Is it based on an expert opinion or real scientific study?

You know no lab or doctor in the world has isolated or defined this COVID-19 technically, or under scientific means as of yet? They cannot describe its complete genome or entire genetic sequence!! It is way short of a complete virus genome by many, many millions of pairs! It make you wonder why not.

When several prominent Universities were provided several thousand of samples of genetic material that were labelled COVID-19 they all ended being a strain of the current season's influenza!!...it should make folks take a step back.....

APAK

The Internet and cable TV are great places to find any kind of scenario or alternative reality you like. Not to sound arrogant, of course.

 

[amadeus]

Not to sound arrogant, although I seek honest truth here. Lots of people say this and that....and I'm not convinced at all that your father-in-law has this so-called COVID virus, say based on a fake nPCR test that does not test for any virus at all. Is it based on an expert opinion or real scientific study?

You know no lab or doctor in the world has isolated or defined this COVID-19 technically, or under scientific means as of yet? They cannot describe its complete genome or entire genetic sequence!! It is way short of a complete virus genome by many, many millions of pairs! It make you wonder why not.

When several prominent Universities were provided several thousand of samples of genetic material that were labelled COVID-19 they all ended being a strain of the current season's influenza!!...it should make folks take a step back.....

APAK

And if we are wrong in our beliefs about COVID-19 and never know what the truth is about it, are we definitely lost in the eyes of God?

If we simply trust God and spend our time in drawing closer to Him but never learn anything more than we now know about the so-called pandemic and all of the details available through, men, both honest and dishonest, is salvation for us an impossibility?

I know you are dedicated in your search for truth outside of the Bible for this thing, but who among those who do not know you well personally is going to trust you more than they do their personal physicians? Should they?

I guess that you understand the difficulties presented to people who are completely ignorant of any science and even for those with some science who are not personally experts in the areas necessary to be able to supposedly draw intelligent and accurate conclusions.

While I believe in your sincerity, I have to be honest in saying that if I must trust in men for this thing, I would trust the three medical doctors who finally advised my wife on how best to handle her situation with a severely permanently compromised immune system and several lung problems more than you. They have been her physicians and dealt well with her problems for many years prior to this COVID-19 thing. She has learned to trust them and so have I when it comes to her health. I have no doubt that God has used them to save her life more than once over the years so that she is still with me in spite of it all.

Dedication and sincerity are not always enough, are they?

 

[BarneyFife]

And if we are wrong in our beliefs about COVID-19 and never know what the truth is about it, are we definitely lost in the eyes of God?

If we simply trust God and spend our time in drawing closer to Him but never learn anything more than we now know about the so-called pandemic and all of the details available through, men, both honest and dishonest, is salvation for us an impossibility?

I know you are dedicated in your search for truth outside of the Bible for this thing, but who among those who do not know you well personally is going to trust you more than they do their personal physicians? Should they?

I guess that you understand the difficulties presented to people who are completely ignorant of any science and even for those with some science who are not personally experts in the areas necessary to be able to supposedly draw intelligent and accurate conclusions.

While I believe in your sincerity, I have to be honest in saying that if I must trust in men for this thing, I would trust the three medical doctors who finally advised my wife on how best to handle her situation with a severely permanently compromised immune system and several lung problems more than you. They have been her physicians and dealt well with her problems for many years prior to this COVID-19 thing. She has learned to trust them and so have I when it comes to her health. I have no doubt that God has used them to save her life more than once over the years so that she is still with me in spite of it all.

Dedication and sincerity are not always enough, are they?

Well, I have heard it said that it's possible to be sincere and yet be sincerely wrong.

 

[APAK]

The Internet and cable TV are great places to find any kind of scenario or alternative reality you like. Not to sound arrogant, of course.

So you are avoiding my post completely for some reason. And I see you are trivializing my post and not equipped to answer me or at least provide me with any serious answers on this important subject then.

 

[BarneyFife]

So you are avoiding my post completely for some reason. And I see you are trivializing my post and not equipped to answer me or at least provide me with any serious answers on this important subject then.

I stand by what I have said. I'm not avoiding anything. If you must know, I'm ignoring it for the most part. Why should I trust your judgment over anyone else's?

 

[BarneyFife]

If COVID is a hoax:

What's the end game?

Killing off the taxpayers?

 

[APAK]

And if we are wrong in our beliefs about COVID-19 and never know what the truth is about it, are we definitely lost in the eyes of God?

If we simply trust God and spend our time in drawing closer to Him but never learn anything more than we now know about the so-called pandemic and all of the details available through, men, both honest and dishonest, is salvation for us an impossibility?

I know you are dedicated in your search for truth outside of the Bible for this thing, but who among those who do not know you well personally is going to trust you more than they do their personal physicians? Should they?

I guess that you understand the difficulties presented to people who are completely ignorant of any science and even for those with some science who are not personally experts in the areas necessary to be able to supposedly draw intelligent and accurate conclusions.

While I believe in your sincerity, I have to be honest in saying that if I must trust in men for this thing, I would trust the three medical doctors who finally advised my wife on how best to handle her situation with a severely permanently compromised immune system and several lung problems more than you. They have been her physicians and dealt well with her problems for many years prior to this COVID-19 thing. She has learned to trust them and so have I when it comes to her health. I have no doubt that God has used them to save her life more than once over the years so that she is still with me in spite of it all.

Dedication and sincerity are not always enough, are they?

So are we riding on emotions here amadeus? I sent a post to another person and now you react to it as if it was to you personally. Why?

You have thrown in subjects that are quite unrelated to my post that I send to another person? What has salvation got to do with this subject?
Why do you have to bring up the word trust. Why bring ME up regarding your wife's health? And her health has nothing to do with this COVID subject anyway. Who is suggesting not to trust one's doctor for their health advise and recommendations? Why do you have me on a chopping block or ready to crucify me?

Sounds like you are attempting to strike out at me in vain and for what reason I'm at a loss? I would keep my thoughts and emotions in check as a suggestion. Is there something else you really want to discuss? This is not like you at all. I'm a little stunned here.

I think you jumped into this discussion without actually understanding it. Just saying....

 

[APAK]

Why should I trust your judgment over anyone else's?

This statement of your says it all. Why do you have to trust my judgment on anything here? I was not asking for that and you know I never did. I was inquiring and providing information to you - relevant information to really consider, and there's much more.

Just a thought though, did I least impress upon you to at least open up a discussion of inquiring into this subject, to go deeper and further? Then that's a good thing don't you think?

 

[Desire Of All Nations]

It's a lot easier to dismiss something as a conspiracy theory when a person can't/won't disprove it. The facts are that Covid is a weaponized man-made virus that came from a China lab, that some of the same medical "experts" who are benefiting from pushing the vaccines(like Faucci) helped create Covid, and that an anti-jabber isn't more prone to dying/suffering from Covid than somebody who got jabbed.

Furthermore, the Covid Gestapo said getting jabbed doesn't do anything to actually stop Covid. Why? Because stopping Covid isn't something the Communist left wants. What they want is to use it as a means to further turn America into a Communist state and erode constitutional limits on what the federal government can do to ordinary citizens. Biden himself admitted that the Covid-related mandates he pushed weren't constitutional and he allows unvaccinated illegal immigrants to be shipped all over the country without informing the local authorities, so why do people continually believe the fake administration really cares about stopping Covid?

 

[marks]

Other than a selectively worded hit piece using anecdotal conclusions to promote a desired point (grey propaganda)- what does the article linked actually mean?

If a vaccinated person who wore a mask died of Covid, would an article tout the effectiveness of the mask while avoiding the fact it didn't prevent anything?

Then there is the ongoing publically touted lie that this is a "pandemic of the unvaccinated", with no reference toward the ineffectiveness at vaccines at preventing transmission, and no reference to the far superior natural immunity.

Much love!

 

[marks]

So what makes you believe they are creating a smoke screen? What makes this pandemic different to any other in history?

I believe pandemics are to be expected in these end times... However we have probably not seen the worst yet.

I could offer a few reasons why I think we are being told lies.

1) No level of vaccination will eradicate a disease which lives in the animals humans live with. This virus does. Those in authority who claim we need to eradicate Covid through mass vaccination must know that.
2) Vaccination does not prevent infection with or transmission of this virus. Vaccines for this virus only partially protect the person vaccinated, and not others. Those in authority who claim this is a "pandemic of the unvaccinated" must know that.
3) Masking, distancing, and shut-down mandates are ignored by those making them. They obviously know they don't follow the mandates they claim necessary for others.
4) Enforcing masking, distancing, and shut-down mandates after numerous demonstrations if their ineffectiveness at controlling regional outcomes becomes increasingly political, and this is likewise demonstrated by the selective enforcement. "Sturgis" is a super-spreader event, while BLM riots are not, for instance.

These are the first that come to mind.

Much love!

 

[marks]

My daughter works in an ICU and watches people die of COVID-19 every day. EVERY... DAY. Everyone in my household is completely vaccinated. I also take NAC and zinc supplements as a preventative. I wear a mask where it's required as a courtesy to others. I don't feel in the least bit like my rights are being violated. My mother-in-law died of it in February and it nearly killed my father-in-law as well. They were both believers in "the hoax." Just my testimony. I guess you could call it anecdotal.

I don't call it a hoax, I know it's a real disease, and can have devastating outcomes. But I also think it's been, and is being managed for political reasons.

Much love!

 

[BarneyFife]

This statement of your says it all. Why do you have to trust my judgment on anything here? I was not asking for that and you know I never did. I was inquiring and providing information to you - relevant information to really consider, and there's much more.

Just a thought though, did I least impress upon you to at least open up a discussion of inquiring into this subject, to go deeper and further? Then that's a good thing don't you think?

Say what you want; believe what you want, but how 'bout gettin' off my back while you do it, eh? That's a good thing, don't you think?

 

[BarneyFife]

I don't call it a hoax, I know it's a real disease, and can have devastating outcomes. But I also think it's been, and is being managed for political reasons.

Much love!

What isn't?

 

[Curtis]

When the death rate from a disease is 0.1% or much less, it is definitely NOT a pandemic. The death statistics were over-inflated and all the bogus computer models generated by the Imperial College were found to to simple fear-mongering.

The real danger is the bogus vaccines themselves. There has never been any vaccine that has caused so many deaths in such a short time as these experimental bioweapons. And ABSOLUTELY NO ONE has given full disclosure according to the Nuremberg Code. Had each victim been told up front that there was a very serious risk of dying through any of those vaccines, no one would have taken them.

So deception was used at every stage, from the manufacture and testing to the jab. When there is deliberate deception, disinformation, and misinformation from the highest level of government and public health authorities, that is PROOF of a conspiracy. Anthony Fauci was caught lying about everything, and he is still a free man when he should be behind bars.

The vaccines are horrible, and the warnings from people who are qualified to judge, about future death rates from them, is being ignored and censored- as well as the horrific side effects happening now.

Yet people are perfectly willing to be lied to, which is part of the plan.